To be fair though Dave, the calls that the ref got wrong last night ultimately ended up with the game being over as a contest. Not saying that we would have won without his mistakes leading up to the sin-binning but the game was nicely poised im sure you will agree.

First half was nicely poised although Warrington were the far better team. I'd have fancied them to expose you in the last 20 when you tired irrespective of the refs incompetence.

I thought the ref then made a couple of strange calls primarily the ball steal decision but these things go for you sometimes and against others. I can recall 5 or 6 instances last year for example on your way to 4th in the league where you had some outragous luck.

Putting the ref to one side for a minute you must have noticed in the last few games Rovers defensive technique start to become suspect leading to a lot of head shots. Morgan said in the HDM that there's no discipline problem, i'd disagree and Clint Newton appears to be the worst for it. Not sure whats up with Newton but he was tugging for a breater every 5 mins too.

I thought Mr Smith was cr@p both ways to be fair. I think we had more calls against us then for us, but Im bound to think that.

It's not the number of calls he gets wrong, its where and when he gets them wrong, he allowed Wire to regain posession with an incorrect penalty for stripping the ball right on our line, late in the tackle count which after such defending was always going to result in a try. Giving us a penalty 90 yards from the opposition line is not 'balancing' it up.

He was awful and biased last night in the way he refereed the game and if you look at the replay, every time he was in contact with our lads he had a scowl on his face, but was quite happy to have a laugh and a joke with Wire.

If I was Morgan I would get Hudgell to formally complain about Smiths manhandling of Newton, he is a coward behind a referees uniform, knowing Newton could not retaliate. He was clearly 'gunning' for Newts and had a smug look on his face after he sin binned him. His insinuation that Newts was feigning injury was a disgrace, the bloke was packed in ice this afternoon and clearly carrying an injury.

He is a cheat in my book and he helped them win.

Jeez, thats nowt,when Ganson refs us he does everything but come out wearing a Saints shirt.

The 'ball strip' penalty was a bad decision, but IIRC Smith would have seen it from behind the Rovers player and would not have seen how the ball ended up in his hands. It most likely looked like a strip from his POV.

His treatment of Newton was poor I agree. It was clear that Newton was carrying a genuine injury and it's not up to the ref to decide otherwise. If he thought time was being wasted he should have started stopping the clock or asked for Newton to be treated off the pitch. Manhandling him was unprofessional to say the least.

I don't think that Smith is biased in the normal sense of the word, and AFAIK he has no connection to Wire that would lead him to favour them particularly. What he [iis[/i, without doubt, is one of the very worst officials in the game. I don't think there was any more to it than his usual utter incompetence.

So why give a penalty in such a vital position at a crucial point in the game if he could n't see it. Could you imagine a a witness in court being accepted if they 'didn't see it' but stated 'I assumed he stabbed him'. Benefit of the doubt to us would have been fairer as his decision was the catalyst for what came next.

Refs do similar every week. How many times have you seen a ball dislodged at the PTB by a tackler/marker and the ref give a knock-on because he's just turned round and seen a loose ball without seeing how it came loose?

If you see a player in a two-man tackle and one of the two men suddenly turns around with the ball in his hands then a ball-steal is far more likely than a misdirected pass.

Quite right - as you say they have no option but to use their skill and judgement in assessing what the most likely play was when they and their touch judges are unsighted.

so sum of you think that wire deserved to win did you it was absolute trash from the officials as per usual smith played to the noise of i wire fans briers is a spoilt little if things not going they're way resort to other things and smith and monaghan laughing disgusting he should be hauled brfore the rfl but he wont be cos its the wire and are bin protected its all a fix and you wonder why the faithful away numbers dwindling you ought to be ashamed smith

didnt mean briers spoilt little lover spoilt little more like. i think its about time that the coaches were able to express theyre frustrations more and the rfl to actually listen and as for the linesman there is money to save sack the lot of them only 1 decent ref in s league now ganson. Childs needs to grow up thaler needs to keep topping up his spray tan and the others can do one. you dont get crap like this in the nrl so why shud we ave to put up with it here and stevo you need to get ur eyes tested smith best game so far get real

not spoilt lover forget it he just an head doer lol.....................................

Given their overwhelming possession and the fact they were up against it missing 6 first team players, I think they just did enough, yes.

Its not all down to the ref guys is it come on,you have lost 9 games,some of it must be down to justin morgans coaching skills.???

Did you write the lipsmackingcoolfizzingpepsi advert?

without sounding like a troll, this is a serious question, ive noticed a few times morgan has had words about the ref or decisions not going your way. Does anyome think he maybe feeling a little presure or are his feelings deserved?

I'm sorry, I seem to be the only Hull fan that hasn't seen the game!
But from what I heard on radio wire scored 16 points while Newton was in the bin. Is that correct? Also the game was at 6-4 when this happened? If so it was a massive moment that changed the game.
Was it a deserved binning? I know from on here that he'd been warned but was the "actual" event worth a sin bin?

He'd been warned twice before and then did another grapple tackle, so IMO it was deserved. There were some other abysmal decisions in the game that went against us (Hicks in touch, Grix offload as a ball steal, Anderson knock on before king Try), but the game was still out of our reach. Until we become more flamboyant and versatile in attack I only expect victories over the weaker teams. Saying that, our defence was amazing for 70 minutes and it is certainly a performance to build the rest of the season on despite conceding 35 points.

HKR.kid is spot on in his post,having just watched a re-run of the game nowhull kr gave away several penalties in the first 2 minutes of the game,that is what morgan has to sort out,cheap shots high shots gobbing off to the refs all penalties that can be avoided with the right coach,i like the kind of rugby that kr play the thing is they are to predictable everything goes through dobson stop him and you stop kr...............

credit to your fans on friday they had a right good bounce even though you did nt get the result.

Diddums.

'Wash your mouth out son'....WE ARE THE FAITHFUL

on the other hand he didn't ping you for not being square at marker as far as i can recall, which is strange as he kept penalizing warrington for it.

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