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| Quote ="Roverswall"But that still doesn't mean you can post whatever you want the AUP still stands'"
Getting jittery mate?
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| Quote ="barton baird"Getting jittery mate?
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| Ok. The scenario is that Willie will be impotent on the sidelines unless he is re-registered or goes to Toulon (for hopefully a decent transfer fee to make it all worthwhile).
I understand that Toulon need the good old Tongan passport for this to be worthwhile otherwise they'll use a valuable quota place that they can't afford. Still over to you then, Hudge, to make it happen?
Or, once he get's the passport ('cos that's still clearly paramount for either situation, KR or Toulon) - would it still be worth keeping him even if it means de-registering another?
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| Quote ="WormInHand"Ok. The scenario is that Willie will be impotent on the sidelines unless he is re-registered or goes to Toulon (for hopefully a decent transfer fee to make it all worthwhile).
I understand that Toulon need the good old Tongan passport for this to be worthwhile otherwise they'll use a valuable quota place that they can't afford. Still over to you then, Hudge, to make it happen?
Or, once he get's the passport ('cos that's still clearly paramount for either situation, KR or Toulon) - would it still be worth keeping him even if it means de-registering another?'" If is passport arrives we wont need to de-register another.
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| Quote ="Mild Rover"Exactly.'"
You were not even bothered about rovers then though mate. And you know it.
I think this, Rovers are "guilty" of bending rules to suit themselves, but have been caught well short. The RFl needs to sort out some better rules, and also the visa application / acceptance process needs to be resolved.
We look more like a joke sport otherwise.
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| Quote ="barton baird"Doesn`t alter the fact he has jerked you around though.Proves a contract is worth sweet f.a.'"
Depends also whether the contract may have been breached in any way.
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| Quote ="Roverswall"If is passport arrives we wont need to de-register another.'"
Yep, sorry.
So see second paragraph. Over to Hudge.
And if the passport arrives, would you keep him, now?
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| Quote ="WormInHand"See second paragraph. Over to Hudge.
If the passport arrives, would you keep him, now?'" I was commening on your 3rd paragraph mate.
And yes I would.
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| Quote ="Roverswall"As was commening on your 3rd paragraph mate.
And yes I would.'"
Really? With the bad luck he's brought, and his obvious desire to be elsewhere already?
By the way, what's Rovers' view on him courting another club whilst under contract to you - naughty boy. Illegal under RFL law - will Hudge let it go? (See, I've not mentioned Cooke once. )
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| Quote ="WormInHand"Really? With the bad luck he's brought, and his obvious desire to be elsewhere already?
By the way, what's Rovers view on him courting another club whilst under contract to you - naughty boy. Illegal under RFL law - will Hudge let it go? (See, I've not mentioned Cooke, once
)'" Last time I checked it was all speculation and rumour (Although some will claim that they know from sauces but can't divilge) i'm not asying it isn't true BTW but still.
Even our local gutter press are struggling to get concrete dirt on the subject (all the statements I have seen have been rather 'blah').
As for RFL rules i'm not sure him talking to a RFU club is included although I could be wrong.
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| Quote ="Roverswall"Last time I checked it was all speculation and rumour (Although some will claim that they know from sauces but can't divilge) i'm not asying it isn't true BTW but still.
Even our local gutter press are struggling to get concrete dirt on the subject (all the statements I have seen have been rather 'blah').
As for RFL rules i'm not sure him talking to a RFU club is included although I could be wrong.'"
Given that your own board have decided not to proceed with [ianother[/i dispensation request because of "the French Connection"...
Quote ="HullKR"In view of recent rumours circulating about Willie and a move to French rugby union the club will not be pursuing dialogue with the RFL for a discretionary dispensation provided by the rules given these circumstances.'"
... I'd say it was a "given" rather than a "saucy rumour". Do you really think that if there was a shred of hope that Willie was straight Hudge would have issued this statement?
And so I ask again - do you still want him?
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| Quote ="WormInHand"Given that your own board have decided not to proceed with [ianother[/i dispensation request because of "the French Connection"...
... I'd say it was a "given" rather than a "saucy rumour". Do you really think that if there was a shred of hope that Willie was straight Hudge would have issued this statement?
And so I ask again - do you still want him?'" Hudge could well be not going down that road until he is sure it is just a rumour so as to stop this getting even more farcical (Yes it is possible).
And i'll answer you again Yes (although I didn't give my reasons before)
Yes if he has been unfront, No if he hasn't
Put it this way IF as you assume Hudge is aware of the complete situation and Willie hasn't been honest why put THAT statement out?
Why not just state the french connection directly instead of saying they are going to talk to him over 'Media reports'.
That sounds to me like the club are still not totally sure what is going on themselves.
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| Quote ="Roverswall"Hudge could well be not going down that road until he is sure it is just a rumour so as to stop this getting even more farcical (Yes it is possible).
And i'll answer you again Yes (although I didn't give my reasons before)
Yes if he has been unfront, No if he hasn't
Put it this way IF as you assume Hudge is aware of the complete situation and Willie hasn't been honest why put THAT statement out?
Why not just state the french connection directly instead of saying they are going to talk to him over 'Media reports'.
[i=#000040That sounds to me like the club are still not totally sure what is going on themselves.[/i'"
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| lots of people are clutching straws and making up hypothetical scenarios etc, jumping to conclusions etc etc etc....
the simplified facts are
the club expected galea to come off quota...
they signed mason
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they failed to get galea off quota
but still awaited mason
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to get around the qouta they applied for a tongan passport
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season started
dobson injured after second game i believe it was
the club then chose to try a loophole and flew mason over on his nz passport/visa
they then de-registered dobson and registered mason pending the passport
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just less than a week to the derby all hell breaks loose and all of a sudden movement of sorts by the club.
they attempted a last ditch attempt to get a passport sorted but was not enough for the rfl to allow mason to qualify as non quota...they need the passport.
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the club then take the steps of de-registering mason and re-registering dobson amid wild speculative reports of french ru interest in mason etc etc etc
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the club say that they will not look for dispensation to re-register mason.
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queue the masses with the mason off to french ru etc etc etc..
totally unsubstantiated as yet.
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how about the club are just back to square one and are just letting what is to be what is in regards to timescales ala mason passport.
as a kr fan i do feel very very dissapointed that this fiasco has happened... the club have acted foolishly imo.
they enacted ala mason in the effort to try and make a quick buck out of the supporters in a leap of faith move over the passport timings.
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in regards to mason.... wait and see what happens now....
speculating and creating rumours and such is just as bad as the poor press etc surrounding the entire issue.
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| Quote ="hkrdavidhkr"lots of people are clutching straws and making up hypothetical scenarios etc, jumping to conclusions etc etc etc....
the simplified facts are
the club expected galea to come off quota...
they signed mason
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they failed to get galea off quota
but still awaited mason
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to get around the qouta they applied for a tongan passport
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season started
dobson injured after second game i believe it was
the club then chose to try a loophole and flew mason over on his nz passport/visa
they then de-registered dobson and registered mason pending the passport
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just less than a week to the derby all hell breaks loose and all of a sudden movement of sorts by the club.
they attempted a last ditch attempt to get a passport sorted but was not enough for the rfl to allow mason to qualify as non quota...they need the passport.
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the club then take the steps of de-registering mason and re-registering dobson amid wild speculative reports of french ru interest in mason etc etc etc
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the club say that they will not look for dispensation to re-register mason.
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queue the masses with the mason off to french ru etc etc etc..
totally unsubstantiated as yet.
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how about the club are just back to square one and are just letting what is to be what is in regards to timescales ala mason passport.
as a kr fan i do feel very very dissapointed that this fiasco has happened... the club have acted foolishly imo.
they enacted ala mason in the effort to try and make a quick buck out of the supporters in a leap of faith move over the passport timings.
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in regards to mason.... wait and see what happens now....
speculating and creating rumours and such is just as bad as the poor press etc surrounding the entire issue.'"
David, you are probably right but......let them finish their couple of days of fun.........
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| Quote ="roversmad"David, you are probably right but......let them finish their couple of days of fun.........
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c`mon,if the situation was reversed you can`t tell me you lot wouldn`t be having a field day.
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| Quote ="hkrdavidhkr"lots of people are clutching straws and making up hypothetical scenarios etc, jumping to conclusions etc etc etc....
the simplified facts are
the club expected galea to come off quota...
they signed mason
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they failed to get galea off quota
but still awaited mason
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to get around the qouta they applied for a tongan passport
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season started
dobson injured after second game i believe it was
the club then chose to try a loophole and flew mason over on his nz passport/visa
they then de-registered dobson and registered mason pending the passport
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just less than a week to the derby all hell breaks loose and all of a sudden movement of sorts by the club.
they attempted a last ditch attempt to get a passport sorted but was not enough for the rfl to allow mason to qualify as non quota...they need the passport.
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the club then take the steps of de-registering mason and re-registering dobson amid wild speculative reports of french ru interest in mason etc etc etc
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the club say that they will not look for dispensation to re-register mason.
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queue the masses with the mason off to french ru etc etc etc..
totally unsubstantiated as yet.
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how about the club are just back to square one and are just letting what is to be what is in regards to timescales ala mason passport.
as a kr fan i do feel very very dissapointed that this fiasco has happened... the club have acted foolishly imo.
they enacted ala mason in the effort to try and make a quick buck out of the supporters in a leap of faith move over the passport timings.
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in regards to mason.... wait and see what happens now....
speculating and creating rumours and such is just as bad as the poor press etc surrounding the entire issue.'"
In a nutshell, my love. I'm gonna keep this for sig. material. You're marvellous. And quite right. There's no hypothetical jumping to conclusions there. It's all fact, though hard to believe.
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| Quote ="barton baird"c`mon,if the situation was reversed you can`t tell me you lot wouldn`t be having a field day.
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Mason is....
A-not the player he was...
B-only here for the money......
C-a waste of a quota space.....
Etc, Etc,... you get the idea.
I would have thought you Hull fans would rather he stay?
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| Quote ="roversmad"But...
Mason is....
A-not the player he was...
B-only here for the money......
C-a waste of a quota space.....
Etc, Etc,... you get the idea.
I would have thought you Hull fans would rather he stay?'"
I was actually looking forward to see him play in the derby.
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| Quote ="barton baird"I was actually looking forward to see him play in the derby.'"
We would prefer to see Dobson
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| I think comparisons with the Sonny Bill Williams transfer fee are way off the mark as it is highly unlikely Toulon would pay a fee for Mason. Rovers are paying Mason and he cannot play at the moment and there is a big question mark as to whether he will be able to play again this season now.
From Toulon's perspective, why would you offer a fee? If Mason wants to leave, Rovers have a player that doesn't want to be here, is costing a lot of money and can't play anyway!
I don't think anyone comes out of this whole fiasco with any credit. Rovers, Mason, RFL, Toulon and the Tongan government.
The worst case is that Toulon don't take Mason now.
A great shame really, the whole thing.
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| Im an FC fan and have great sympathy for you rovers fans, after all we too know what its like to have embarrassing things happen at our club! After all our biggest one is still there!!! It always seems like the boards of both Hull clubs just take the fans and more importantly their monies for granted. Are all the fans who bought Mason merchandise going to be reimbursed? For the record i think Mason would have been a great player in a Dobson led team but as the whole fiasco turned out Dobson is a far, far greater miss in your team than he would ever be for you guys. Lets hope that both our clubs can put up a great performance for both sets of our suffering fans today and whoever win,loses or draws all walk away having enjoyed the match and share a few pints together.
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| Reading todays HDM it seems Mason is not happy with Rovers, not sure why, it may be a while be a while before we find out?
Short term this doesn't look good for Rovers, but long term this will benefit you, it is obvious he was just here for the money, I would rather see a player like Scott Taylor get some gametime than this big time Charlie.
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| [urlhttp://www.thisishullandeastriding.co.uk/sport/HULL-KR-Mason-set-whimper/article-3479200-detail/article.html[/url
Mason's "furious" and won't play for Rovers again. So it says.
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| It seems very apparent that Rovers have been financially spanked from this deal. The other sad thing is that with a rugby union move looking the most likely for Mason, its another top player moving to the dark side with the gin and tonic brigade smirking at us league boys again! Rugby league at the moment is a complete farce. Appalling standards of refereeing with no consistency of sticking to the same set of rules and with sneaky wretches like hudgell as chairmen bending the rules looking for loopholes to blight our game it is making RFL a laughing stock.
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