If its a money issue, it's a money issue.

If it's about personalities (Howes and Hudgell), better to hold your nose and work around it if you can.

Which deal are we supposedly annoyed about? there was a rumour of an issue even before the Watts deal on t'other board, iirc. Lovegrove and Salter have both re-signed from the Howes stable though, so presumably there is some scope for striking deals still.
Speculating wildly, but my next best guess would be Gentle. That's an alternative RLfans universe I'd like to see.

See, there you go again, taking something wrongly.
I'm not suggesting Pearson will invest £10m, I'm saying that £10m in RL basically means money is of no object. Pearson made a lot more than that selling City and his business before that.

10,000 is possible IMO, but it's vital that the North Stand is built asap.

A complete North Stand will atleast mean that Craven Park is capable of holding 10,000 (if demand is there).

IMO, the most vital thing to come out of the new stand is the potential coporate revenue it'll hopefully generate. Obviously companies are holding back at the moment, but the recession won't last forever and when the economy picks up, we'll have the facilities to make the most out of it, which we don't have now.

Whilst football is a completly different kettle of fish, all the big clubs are looking at ways to increase corporate revenue (mainly following the huge increase in revenue Arsenal saw when they moved stadium). Liverpool & Chelsea are looking to emulate that & even Leeds Utd have recently invested in Elland Road, reducing seating capacity to build more boxes.

Be interesting if ginge still has this opinion when allam starts spreading his cash around for rovers' benefit?

Great use of English there, =#FF0000Edit AS. idiot.

I think Scott Taylor has looked a bit jaded recently. He's played a lot of games and gone from a great impact player off the bench earlier in the season to more or less being asked to lead our pack in some games. Tall order for an up and coming player. It would be nice to think we could still call on the likes of Watts and Wheeldon but it's now where Beaumont/Green have to be phased in.

Like many HKR/HDM exclusives there's not much to it, but following on from our chairman's programme notes - it's clear that this is heading towards bad blood between club/agent - thus eventually Taylor. As a club (fans/board) possibly losing Scott Taylor will hurt. But if he/agent are gearing up to either work towards an exit or milking the situation for every last penny, as a club we have to do what's right for us. There's no point offering silly amounts of money in order to keep our best young player. Esp if a chunk of that money can be better spent elsewhere (certainly not topping up an Aussie waste of space tho). As Barnapus stated there's also a stark reality that Taylor could be getting too big for our pond for him to reach his maximum potential.

For Taylor, his attitude whilst he's played for us has been first class and I'd doubt anything will change this whilst he's playing @ Rovers. Whatever happens in the future, I'd hate for any Rovers fan to forget this. But having said that, the longer this potentially drags on and in the face of the arrogance displayed from FC fans, I'd bet this would be quickly forgotten. With this, a quick sale may be in our best interests should he have no desire to commit to Rovers.

Taylor will be gone at the end of 2012. Tickle has also "stalled" or is "not thinking of a new deal yet, I just want to concentrate on this year and my performances"

Literal translation... "See ya, I've got a better offer but can't say anything because of a binding agreement and I don't want the fans to turn on me".

When a player is happy, you hear "I had no problem with signing the contract straight away. I had no intention of moving on. Now I just want to concentrate on my rugby and want to repay the faith the coach has in me" etc etc.

You know nothing pig face, you're just another in the long production line of Winkers from the West.

Yeah, =#FF0000Edit AS. winker from the west. Go =#FF0000Edit AS. yourself.

Well, I do know that Hudgells program notes last week were an indication that he's spat his dummy into orbit with Howes. I'd also lay odds that Howes has seen this and left an anonymous message on the Hull Daily Mail answerphone.

Still, what does a porcine-featured winker like me know?

I love pork, me.

Scott's attitude & commitment to Rovers cause while he's still a Rovers player should never be questioned.
As I said earlier, if he wants to play for FC he will. But I don't think he does.

Translation please !
I dont have my Cretinese - English dictionary handy.

I like beef better than pork it's bit fatty is pork, mind homemade pork pie is nice.

He wont be going to the dullers then LOL

It does seem Taylor is a very popular person in Hull and must have a lot of friends as everyone seems to know what he wants to do beyond this season.

I am not anti agent at all they have their place in pro sport and as you say they get players a good deal than they would themselves but they seem to have more power than is healthy.
To use Sandra's term most players are stupid and their agents do their thinking for them, You then see the size of an agents client list.
That leads to agents having more power than just someone who gets a player a good deal but someone who can hold a club to ransom if they so wish due to the sway they have.

IMHO if you think agents don't look and act for the best deal for themselves as well as for the player than I believe you are just as naive as I am.

Agents are a necessary evil in sport. Without them clubs would probably just exploit players instead.
Like some of the unions, I imagine some agents will use blackmail as their only tool for negotiation.

Agent fees are a massive problem in football, in RL - do agents get their taste when a player moves clubs? Or is it more, if a said agent has a cosy/good relationship with a club, and 'persuades' his client to move there, he gets his taste another way?

Oh agents are needed I agree you only have to look at the association game pre Jimmy Hill to see that (Although he wasn't an agent IIRC he helped break the strangle hold that the clubs had on player wages when he helped fight against it).
I can't imagine an agent working with getting fee's TBH which is what I assume you are referring too.

Getting Back to Jimmy Hill I do wonder if he ever regrets opening the pandoras box of players wages.

Where have I said that? Nah, didn't say that. Of course they do, they're businessmen - but ultimately it's the player who signs the deal they feel is right for them. A player is worth whatever someone is willing to pay for their services after all.

Take your red & white specs off.

You've basically gone on a tirade on something you clearly know nothing about, making up conspiracy theories based on no facts about clubs being held to ransom and how agents act. It works both ways and clubs will take advantage of certain situations too. Gorm.

Obviously they get paid somewhere, I was wondering from where their main income comes.

Naturally the players will pay for such services, but in football (think) the extorted agent fees you hear/read about mainly arise from transfers/signing on fees etc.
Given that RL doesn't really operate with big money transfer deals, do agents therefore get their big pay days when they bring a player to another club?

I think what he means love is il be comming round the mountain yeee haaaa

If you think that is a tirade then I worry as it isn't.
You accused me of being anti-agent something I am not (Not that I expect you to admit it) as they are needed to stop players getting screwed over.
But having so many players on the books of one man is bound to cause a conflict of interest at some point.

Infact the HDM even hint towards that very issue 'Relations between KR and the player's agent, David Howes, have been strained for some time, following a dispute over a previous player deal earlier in the season.'
Now what does a previous player have to do with Scott Taylor unless his agent is getting shirty over it and is playing silly games?


Have we done it the past?
Yes.
Did I say how uncomfy I was that a fair few of our squad and our coach shared the same agent in previous seasons.
Yes.

Sorry if you think that I am wearing red and white specs but I'm not.
Agents are middle men but having a large client list WILL lead to a larger chance of a conflict of interest IMHO.

Did he definitely sign his last contract?

Is he any good?