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| Quote ="Sandra The Terrorist"With your crack pot bias in the other direction it probably even itself out.'"
Perhaps so. Seeing as we're both stuck in the perpetual treacle of 7th/8th mediocrity we have to talk about [usomething[/u though. Ramekin's got the plastic fencing covered and you've no injuries to discuss. Sandercock v Gentle mud-wrestling is the only obvious topic.
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"Perhaps so. Seeing as we're both stuck in the perpetual treacle of 7th/8th mediocrity [uwe have to talk about [usomething[/u though[/u. Ramekin's got the plastic fencing covered and you've no injuries to discuss. Sandercock v Gentle mud-wrestling is the only obvious topic.'"
Yet we all hope you will talk about your "something" on your own board, your tedious and quite frankly extremely boring.
Your bias words and reverse psychology dont entertain anyone. Why shouldnt he use Uate as the best Example when hes talking about wingers with potential. Get a grip.
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"The most =#FF0000convenient and/or selective, you mean.
When a player is linked with Rovers, the typical reaction, as you intimate here (Pre disclaimer, well done
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Lists posted so far to support the elfin one's mystical staus appear a little selective IMO. Take Graeme Horne. Had an impressive season last year under Nathan Brown. Is he at the top of his game currently? Maybe he is, not entirely sure though. Scott Murrell - played some magnificent games under Morgan. Is this his career-best form? Watts, we've done. Wheeldon - Grand Finalist at Hull. Went south thereafter. Welham - plenty of bleating on here last year about Yeaman getting the England nod ahead of him, all gone a bit quiet on that front.. We all like to be optimistic about our coaching staff's abilities, but just posting stuff about Uate (yawn) and picking out players who have improved is a tad biased.'"
Yeah, cos that's a tactic you'd never use is it?
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| Quote ="very red robin"Yet we all hope you will talk about your "something" on your own board, your tedious and quite frankly extremely boring.
Your bias words and reverse psychology dont entertain anyone. Why shouldnt he use Uate as the best Example when hes talking about wingers with potential. Get a grip.'"
I think you're a bit off the mark here. Had Hudgell brought Sandercock in specifically to develop young wingers, he'd not have brought in David Hodgson. I know Uate is a comfortable and well-worn, arguably over-used, example of his prowess, but it's not the be all and end all. I'm simply presenting a few examples of players currently under Sandercock's tutelage who've not yet followed that trajectory, Latus, for example, if you want to use a winger. The question was raised by a moderator about whether Sandercock could do something with Lyne. Just looking at some recent and relevant examples. Crikey.
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| Hows gentle improving the likes of nicklas, ellis, burnett and jack briscoe.?
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| Quote ="looking in"Hows gentle improving the likes of nicklas, ellis, burnett and jack briscoe.?'"
Nicklas is on dual registration at York to further his development. Briscoe is on dual registration at Featherstone to further his development. Burnett, I think, has been injured for most of the year. Ellis is being unceremoniously binned off to Cas, which I find disappointing as I thought he was a very good signing. Don't get why we're not retaining him, unless, of course, we have bigger fish to fry at half back.
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| Have any of them improved then.?
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"Nicklas is on dual registration at York to further his development. Briscoe is on dual registration at Featherstone to further his development. Burnett, I think, has been injured for most of the year. Ellis is being unceremoniously binned off to Cas, which I find disappointing as I thought he was a very good signing. Don't get why we're not retaining him, unless, of course, we have bigger fish to fry at half back.'"
Save your breath Mrs B you cant say anything against the dobbins without them bursting into tears
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| Quote ="Pjhoe"Save your breath Mrs B you cant say anything against the dobbins without them bursting into tears'"
Cmon has the level of trolls come to this? At least Mrs B puts effort into it. Must try harder.
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| Quote ="looking in"Have any of them improved then.?'"
I don't go and watch York or Featherstone, so can't really comment. I've already said how disappointed I am about Ellis and hope we've not missed a trick. Burnett I'm not sure about. I recognise that progression of players under Gentle and Hay is not perfect and neither have magical "Uate" powers. Sounds like a Vic Reeves catchphrase accompanied by a silly face.
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| The word your looking for is NO.
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| Quote ="Pjhoe"Save your breath Mrs B you cant say anything against the dobbins without them bursting into tears'"
I'm just providing a counterpoint to the latest incarnation of player x "will only get better". "With decent coaching" implies relative inadequacies elsewhere. Mean.
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| Quote ="looking in"The word your looking for is NO.'"
Not really. Danny Nicklas debuted at SL level this year and has played 4 games, now gone to get increased game time at York. So not really sticking my neck out to say he's a better player now than last season.
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| Fwiw I think Latus has been much improved lately, Mrs B.
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| Quote ="EL CAMO"Fwiw I think Latus has been much improved lately, Mrs B.'"
I quite like him. Nowt fancy but does a job. As you'd expect with a specialist wing trainer as coach
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| Quote ="EL CAMO"Fwiw I think Latus has been much improved lately, Mrs B.'"
But was displaced by Salter earlier in the season prior to Salters injury.
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| Its the same people that were saying sandycock should be sacked who are now talking about him like he's the new messiah . Like ive said before they live in a red n white bubble (please dont correct my spelling)
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| Quote ="Pjhoe"Save your breath Mrs B you cant say anything against the dobbins without them bursting into tears'"
Beats bursting into tears about losing yet another Magic weekend game.
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| Quote ="Pjhoe"Its the same people that were saying sandycock should be sacked who are now talking about him like he's the new messiah . Like ive said before they live in a red n white bubble (please dont correct my spelling)'"
Safe to say I'm not one of them. I've always firmly believed he would be a massive positive for us, Rovers board took that much time making sure they got the correct man that I've always remained full of confidence. Still we haven't rounded the bend yet and a victory on Monday would probably do that and give us the confidence to beat Catalans in our next fixture.
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| Quote ="Pjhoe"Its the same people that were saying sandycock should be sacked who are now talking about him like he's the new messiah . Like ive said before they live in a red n white bubble (please dont correct my spelling)'"
A bright bloke like you will be able to provide a link to these calls for the coach to be sacked, along with the evidence showing them to be the new followers of the "Messiah"
I love having a new pet to play with. Are you related to lucytheretarded?
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"The most convenient and/or selective, you mean.
When a player is linked with Rovers, the typical reaction, as you intimate here (Pre disclaimer, well done
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Tbf, CS's sticky start and general lack of bonhomie meant there was and to some extent remains a degree of ambivalence about him. Morgan was a tough act to follow. However, I'm delighted at his/our getting some good recent results because 1. Winning is nice and 2. It should guarantee him the breathing to have a proper crack at the job.
A couple of notes - Wheeldon, not the only member of Hull's Grand Final team that 'went south' and CS only had him for half a season 6 years laters. And Yeaman isn't in the current England squad, perhaps explaining our current lack of bleating on that score.
The Uate stuff may bore you, but as you say we all like to be optimistic about our coach and look for positives in their credentials. Much was made of Gentle having been the, as opposed to the more accurate if less impressive 'an', assistant coach of Australia. Moving up the organisation you lot had the whole infallibility of St. Adam thing, until failure-to-take-Hetherington-down-a-peg-or-two-gate, at least.
Anyway, this is our rumours thread (a poor, weak imitation I admit), so shaddup with all your jibber-jabber.
I love a squabble thread, but not here. If you want a long, futile argument over this then invite us around your board, if your mods will have us.
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| Quote ="Mild Rover"If you want a long, futile argument over this then invite us around your board, if your mods will have us.'"
Sell out - giving away home advantage
C'mon Kryton, we're past that
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| Quote ="Pjhoe"Save your breath Mrs B you cant say anything against the dobbins without them bursting into tears'"
do you say anything different
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| Quote ="Pjhoe" Mrs B'"
Is not your friend, and Rovers fan that don't understand how she adds to debate (whether you like her point of view or not) do not understand how discussion board work.
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