So who do we think is leaving after the season then,any names on who is coming in besides paes brother if true?

S'all about opinions of course, but I think that is harsh. I think we peaked that year, but over 27 rounds it was a fair reflection of where we stood at the time. That it wasn't sustained doesn't mean it was a fluke, IMO.

Also meant to say i also think CS talks a lot of sense but we are a 1/3rd of the way through the season and defensively we get no better,scoring points no problem but would have thought when you have injuries the one thing you can get right is your defence,hope i'm proved wrong but we will be lucky to make the playoffs this year.

Think we'll easily make the playoffs. Still 2/3rd of the season remain. A massive influx of players like those below means it's going to take time. The signs are encouraging.

David Hodgson (Huddersfield)
Graham Horne (Huddersfield)
Ryan O'Hara (Crusaders)
Lincoln Withers (Crusaders)
George Griffin (Queanbeyan Kangaroos)
Mickey Paea (Canterbury Bulldogs)
Keal Carlile (Huddersfield)
Constantine Mika (Newcastle)
Shannon McDonnell (Newcastle)

Who are the players rumoured to leaving/coming in for 2013 then?

After readin that I'm not sure whether Sandy should take the flack here. Well worded and gracious at the end.

Wigan, Saints, Wire, Leeds are the current big 4. Catalans are strong and both Hull and Hudds have been willing to pay fees for players. That leaves only 1 spot free in the 8. I'd like to think we'd lead the hunt for it, but it isn't a gimme.

I agree that Sandercock needs to lay off the refs - they're plop but it'll even up over time (excepting maybe against the top teams). But his inexperience doesn't worry me overly, other assistants have come from the NRL and done well. He's had a bumpy time of it, but it's early days.

No idea but I'll have a guess.

1) Ben Galea (retiring)
2) Jake Webster (Return to Aus)
3) Jason Netherton
4) Sam Latus
5) Scott Wheeldon
6) Scott Murrell
7) Joel Clinton (Return to Aus)


Liam Watts

TBF i think hudds only paid a big fee for danny brough.The likes of brown,robinson,mason went to them when they were out of contract at other clubs,they do seem to be able to attract other clubs best juniors to join them,so it doesnt take a fortune to improve just some better talent spotting/scouting.

I wouldn't be too downbeat about tonight's result in a sense. You played very well in patches and scored some good tries. The only point I'd make is that you're too reliant on Mika. The big guy was taking it up twice every set pretty much and by the end of the game he was totally cooked.

What are you quoting there? Because that's not what he said on blunderside.

Caught Sandy's radio interview - his referee deflector shield is starting to grate.
I'm no Hicks fan but I certainly don't think he was the difference. One of two things go for and against teams each and every week. The Salter tackled/voluntary tackle looked alright IMO. Salter got down to try and avoid a drop out, no Cas player attempted to tackle him - Hicks clearly told him to get up, he then makes some attempt to get up - Cas lift/force him back for a drop out. Best case (at that moment) was a drop out, another referee would've give a penalty for a voluntary tackle. Win some lose some. We failed to defend the resulting drop out. Sandy never mentioned our try before half time being clearly forward or our failure to shut out/build on going 10pts in front in the 2nd half. We need to sort our own reoccurring problems out, instead of putting them @ the officials door.

Fair play to Cas, they have good options - but our reoccurring fragility is worrying.

Good call

That's our season
Good in patches, polar opposite in others.

Sadly, our good patches more often have expired after an hour this season

Good post,too easy to blame someone else,our defence is not good enough full stop,get it sorted mr sandercock rather than blaming/moaning about refs every week because it cant be putting us in a good light at the rfl.

they are e though, doesnt look good i agree but some decisions are diabolical for all teams

We had Alibert pinging Bradford for offside before he'd even called the tackle held, he then realised he gave the penalty for them holding down. We also had Matt 'Peyton Manning' Diskin up to his usual tricks and not being picked once. He also signalled offside for a high shot as well.

they are worse since they went proffesional

I'm not gonna blame the ref, if we can't tackle then we will lose, Cas had more enthusiasm than us, they deserved it, we got what we deserved, nothing.

Quote ="east hull FC fan"What are you quoting there? Because that's not what he said on blunderside.'" www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/rugby-league/17526235

Quote ="east hull FC fan"What are you quoting there? Because that's not what he said on blunderside.'" www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/rugby-league/17526235

Transition season this, was always going to be.

I said before the season that sneaking into the play offs is the achievable goal and I still feel that way.

The defence is a major worry in the short term, but Sandercocks mission is to make this club more sustainable by bringing through the youth and putting structures in place to enable us to have a consistent production line of talent.

Let's not forget this.

I agree with you on all you have said sandra but we have now learnt how to score tries can we please learn how to defend please

If devolping youth is playing the likes of latus and murrell in front of younger players then he's not doing his job,too many people on here who think our players are better than they really are.Also when the under 20's get beat by as many as they did last night then there is not much coming through,probably more morgan's fault than sandercock.Transition is just an excuse as other clubs have new coaches as well and they are all not struggling,our neighbours unfortunately being one of them.At the end of the day injuries should affect your cohesion in attack,but we have no problem,we just have a defence with more holes in it than a string vest and that should have been put right by now.Wrong appointment IMO.

www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/p0 ... 0_03_2012/ Sandercock interview about 3hrs 10mins in. Needs to accept we dont have video refs at every game. No point going on about it each week

www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/p0 ... 0_03_2012/ Sandercock interview about 3hrs 10mins in. Needs to accept we dont have video refs at every game. No point going on about it each week

Yeah, that clearly needs to improve.

Unfortunately, where we're weakest in defence is probably the most difficult position to defend. i.e. In the centre/second row channel.

I don't think we can underestimate how much we're missing Galea, he completely galvanises our right side. In a typically Roversesque quirk of fate, we seem to have evened this up by also forgetting how to defend down the left!

Something else I've noticed is that we've developed a stupid habit of going for big shoulder charges. This is fine if you follow up with an effective tackle, however, we're allowing people to bounce off and then either off load or make more metres. Particular offenders are Whithers and Mika.

Edit: I was talking about defence in reply to cravenpark1.