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| Quote ="R.B.A"Crossman missed only one game all 2008! Wigan away Easter Monday.
As i have said previously on this thread, Mills form has gone downhill fast this season and not taken advantage of any of his opportunities in first or reserve grade.
Doesnt change the fact he was worthy of the contract at the time it was offered.'"
So whats the arguement here, ive lost all track of what youre both on about?
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| Quote ="Big Dave T"So whats the arguement here, ive lost all track of what youre both on about?
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Was giving David Mills a 2 year deal last year a mistakes!!!
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| Quote ="knocker norton"Was giving David Mills a 2 year deal last year a mistakes!!!'"
and i guess the answer is, at the time it wasnt but in hindset after 1 year of that deal yes it was? Are we all agreed?
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| Quote ="Big Dave T"and i guess the answer is, at the time it wasnt but in hindset after 1 year of that deal yes it was? Are we all agreed?
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Never thought i would see the day that Big Dave T brought sanity to the proceedings!
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| Quote ="R.B.A"Never thought i would see the day that Big Dave T brought sanity to the proceedings!
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I had to mate. There's only room for 2 chuckle brothers on this site and you were in danger of making it 3!!
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| Quote ="Big Dave T"and i guess the answer is, at the time it wasnt but in hindset after 1 year of that deal yes it was? Are we all agreed?
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are we ever..the guy has been pooop since his arrival.....his size and experiance should make him a first -teamer but no...he's rotting in the ressy's wheeldon, matt cooke,crossman,and fozzard have all been brought in tom play prop but have any set the world alight??? ,me thinks not...
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| Quote ="berro's best mate"are we ever..the guy has been pooop since his arrival.....his size and experiance should make him a first -teamer but no...he's rotting in the ressy's
wheeldon, matt cooke,crossman,and fozzard have all been brought in tom play prop but have any set the world alight??? ,me thinks not...'"
Wheeldon had a very good season for us and i believe will get even better next year, ffs Matt Cook hasn't even pulled the shirt on yet
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| Quote ="willowred"Wheeldon had a very good season for us and i believe will get even better next year, ffs Matt Cook hasn't even pulled the shirt on yet
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If he makes as many yards and plays like Lovegrove has lately, ill be happy
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Quote ="willowred"Wheeldon had a very good season for us and i believe will get even better next year, ffs Matt Cook hasn't even pulled the shirt on yet
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Did he, everytime I saw him he looked average.
For me he isnt big enough to make a top class prop, think he would be Ok as a backup.
Ewan Dowes was average last year for Hull and played the same ammount of games but has far better stats.
www.superleague.co.uk/statistics ... eason=2009
I think you need to sign two props next year to challenge for a trophy. One should be an impact prop to replace Aizue.
At a push sign a great prop and use Watts and Wheeldon as the 4th prop.
I suspect Morgan knows this and has targets lined up.
He seems to do pretty well with his overseas recruitment.
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Quote ="willowred"Wheeldon had a very good season for us and i believe will get even better next year, ffs Matt Cook hasn't even pulled the shirt on yet
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Did he, everytime I saw him he looked average.
For me he isnt big enough to make a top class prop, think he would be Ok as a backup.
Ewan Dowes was average last year for Hull and played the same ammount of games but has far better stats.
www.superleague.co.uk/statistics ... eason=2009
I think you need to sign two props next year to challenge for a trophy. One should be an impact prop to replace Aizue.
At a push sign a great prop and use Watts and Wheeldon as the 4th prop.
I suspect Morgan knows this and has targets lined up.
He seems to do pretty well with his overseas recruitment.
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| Quote ="willowred"Wheeldon had a very good season for us and i believe will get even better next year, ffs Matt Cook hasn't even pulled the shirt on yet
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Also Matt Cook is a backrow or centre dont think he has ever played prop.
He clearly doesnt know what he is talking about, I would ignore it if I was you.
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| Quote ="nick hkr"With Rhys and Vella starting props and Wheeldon plus one signing being the replacements and Netherton/Mills/Watts as the back up. Dont also forget that with Cook coming in we can push Newton to prop when needed to give us that guidance and experience in the middle.
I do however think Justin will sign a new prop that is much better off the bench than anything we currently have. There must be money in the pot for this with the players that have just left.
Ratu is possibly Jake Websters replacement for the future years with Hodgson depending on his first year being Fishers replacement with an experienced hooker coming in over the next year or two.
Dont forget also we have some academy players coming through of our own that are looking promising.
As much as I'd like to sign various players I dont think we'll over spend and blow our long term future in the top flight, I wouldnt mind finishing 6th next year as long as it was for the greater good of our future progression.'"
He's staying?!
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| Quote ="Dave K."Did he, everytime I saw him he looked average.
For me he isnt big enough to make a top class prop, think he would be Ok as a backup.
Ewan Dowes was average last year for Hull and played the same ammount of games but has far better stats.
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| Quote ="Big Dave T"Funny you should mention that, i may be looking at a career change and politics is an option!
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You would go well in politics Dave. If you need a king of spin to work alongside you I think I know just the man....
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| Quote ="knocker norton"You would go well in politics Dave. If you need a king of spin to work alongside you I think I know just the man....
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| Quote ="Big Dave T"Imagine that, Big Dave T with RBA acting as his Alistair Campbell in number 10 downing st. The country's doomed!!
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I have yet to see anyone polish a turd as well as that man though Dave. (Not Alistair Campbell I mean RBA)
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| Quote ="knocker norton"I have yet to see anyone polish a turd as well as that man though Dave.
(Not Alistair Campbell I mean RBA)'"
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| Quote ="Big Dave T"Wheeldon is one of those props that runs hard and wears his heart on his sleeve which endears him to a lot of fans. I was saying when he was at FC in his early days that he could play for GB and how good he was. I was disappointed also when we didnt keep him. At the same time my Rovers friends were calling him average. It would appear we have changed our opinions as fans becuase he has moved clubs. Funny that
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Was clearly rubbish and need of inspiration whilst at FC. Luckily for Scott he landed on his feet at club with a superior coaching and back room team and is now a fabulous young prop.
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| Not big enough, not good enough, wears his heart on his sleeve and gives his all.
He was only ever going to be average in B&W and he's no different in R&W.
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| Quote ="thehullwhitestar"Not big enough, not good enough, wears his heart on his sleeve and gives his all.
He was only ever going to be average in B&W and he's no different in R&W.'"
I couldn't disagree more. He's been our most consistent prop this year and has often put some of our more senior players to shame with his performances. There's room for improvement, as with all players, but time is on his side and I can see him being a really important player for us in the coming years.
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| Quote ="j_hunter_hkr"I couldn't disagree more. He's been our most consistent prop this year and has often put some of our more senior players to shame with his performances. There's room for improvement, as with all players, but time is on his side and I can see him being a really important player for us in the coming years.'"
I have seen enough of Wheeldon over the last few seasons (including this one) and although he is still young and could improve, he just isn't big enough or good enough to be any more than an average SL forward.
To be fair, comparing him to your other props isn't really a good guide because front row is probably the weakest area of your squad. That isn't a dig of any kind because you have some obvious stand-out players in your squad but, Vella apart, your front row is quite average.
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| Quote ="thehullwhitestar"I have seen enough of Wheeldon over the last few seasons (including this one) and although he is still young and could improve, he just isn't big enough or good enough to be any more than an average SL forward.
To be fair, comparing him to your other props isn't really a good guide because front row is probably the weakest area of your squad. That isn't a dig of any kind because you have some obvious stand-out players in your squad but, Vella apart, your front row is quite average.'"
Wonder where we would finish if we signed two top props, or better still a top hooker as well.
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| Quote ="Big Dave T"Imagine that, Big Dave T with RBA acting as his Alistair Campbell in number 10 downing st. The country's doomed!!
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I can just see us marching out on election night after our victory with the M-people blasting out !
Will have to wait a few months though Dave coz i'm doing some consultancy work for David Mills at the minute.
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