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| With a 13 to 10 penalty count against Salford,how come Only Rovers had a player sin binned for persistent infringements?
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| Both teams had team warnings. James Child ruled that Rovers' next infringement was within the acceptable time period for the team warning. Whilst indicating that Salford's next infringement was outside of the permitted 'team warning' period. I've no idea how much actual time passed for each warning. Salford's warning spanned HT which obviously helps with whatever leniency referees give.
Larroyer's decision to even give the referee something to think about was madness. 5th tackle/team warning/non threatening set ... and tbf his reaction was to seemingly hide and hope he'd get away with a binning rather than contest he'd been hard done to.
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| East-Sard it just seemed strange that Rovers concede 3 less penalties but get a man binned.
Is there a set time after the team warning or just at the ref,s discretion
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| Quote ="Canada red"With a 13 to 10 penalty count against Salford,how come Only Rovers had a player sin binned for persistent infringements?'"
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| Rovers conceded a number of penalties 15 minutes from HT. I’m surprised it took Child as long as it did to put you on a team warning. I believe the timeframe is around 10 minutes, once that passes the warning ‘expires’.
Anyway, during the time that Larroyer was off the pitch you managed to score another one and keep us out.
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| Quote ="Canada red"East-Sard it just seemed strange that Rovers concede 3 less penalties but get a man binned.
Is there a set time after the team warning or just at the ref,s discretion'"
I believe the stats actually are that we conceded 13 penalties and not the beneficiary of 13.
1st half Rovers were canned by James Child and in particular for about 10-15 mins, which resulted in the warning and subsequent binning.
Salford by comparison seemingly conceded a lot less, emphasised by the ironic chants - but conceded something like 3 in a minute right in front of the Rovers fans.
In truth, I thought Child seemingly gave the warning as an after thought, resulting from calls from the away terrace rather than off his back. Again, whenever he pinged Salford in the 2nd half, it was in front of us and after the binning calls etc, seemingly looked at his watch as an after thought, as 'oh yeah ... they're on a warning' ....
He hardly inspires confidence ....
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| Child's was an abomination. He clearly can't tell the time never mind officiate.
I nominate Scott Taylor as biggest pri#ck in super league. He never moaned taking Hudgell's money but stabbed him in the back. Then bummed Wigan joins the mercenaries and acts like a two year old when the mercenaries scored. Can't wait till he comes to craven park again.
We chucked it in after they gave up on childs. That was unacceptable.
The knock on for their 3rd try was a joke as was the pen for Larroyer's try. Fages obstructed McCarthy who pushed him out the way. The team penalty lasts for ten mins. The mercenaries lasted 7.
Childs couldn't referee arm wrestling. He should stick to Charles Hawtry look alike contests.
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| no sour grapes there then
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| Quote ="Burtons Forearm"Child's was an abomination. He clearly can't tell the time never mind officiate.
I nominate Scott Taylor as biggest pri#ck in super league. He never moaned taking Hudgell's money but stabbed him in the back. Then bummed Wigan joins the mercenaries and acts like a two year old when the mercenaries scored. Can't wait till he comes to craven park again.
We chucked it in after they gave up on childs. That was unacceptable.
The knock on for their 3rd try was a joke as was the pen for Larroyer's try. Fages obstructed McCarthy who pushed him out the way. The team penalty lasts for ten mins. The mercenaries lasted 7.
Childs couldn't referee arm wrestling. He should stick to Charles Hawtry look alike contests.'"
Ohhhhhh Burton. I wish I could nod along with this, chuckle at your undisputed perceptive analogies and say you're right on the money here with this post and Child's was the reason we lost against Salford. Just as Thomason disallowing the Mantellato try on a perfectly good lateral pass that was deemed forward against Widnes away robbed us of victory that day.
Childs is useless, we know that, but when the going gets tough, the tough get going. 2nd half, we weren't tough, we never got going. Why?
Some of our players lack spine, spirit, killer instinct, alertness, skill, strength, size and fitness. Without Campo and Horne, we lack leadership on the pitch and we were outcoached, out enthused and out muscled yesterday. We had enough chances yesterday to bury them.
So Sheens half time team talk probably reinforced to his team to exploit what was becoming obvious to all in the first half. We were soft in contact, sloppy around the ruck, disorganised in defence and resorting to infringe to slow down the ptb. Chester probably said be more clinical boys, choose the right options, give away fewer penalties, put more pressure on the kicker and chase the high balls harder. He didn't say - "fall asleep from the kick off and let's have a repeat of Huddersfield away."
I heard Lee Radford say in advance of yesterday's game - "I haven't got a pair of half backs who can play behind a beaten pack and I don't know many other teams with a similar luxury. I expect the guys I've picked today to do a job for me."
Food for thought and a vital communication message for Chezzie.
PS - Scott Taylor might be a complete classless nob, but in the last 2 games by his play, strong running and physicality, he has shown to me exactly what we are missing.
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| Quote ="John Gilbert Reds"Maurice Blair blatantly pushed Theo Fages off the ball, to stop him from attempting the tackle on Larroyer. Great decision by the TJ.
Outstanding as per usual. After taking a barrage of abuse under the posts from the KR fans in the first half, when they were 18-4 up he seemed to love giving it them back when Niall Evalds went in to make it 31-18. FC have got themselves a fantastic player in Taylor, we're really going to miss him.'"
Fair enough, you were probably nearer than me and now you mention it I do remember Child's push signal.
As far as Taylor goes, I was a huge fan and supporter of him when he broke into our team but his behaviour towards Rovers fans over the last couple of season's despite provocation is not acceptable.
He can't be the bigger man, and his thicko attitude will lead to him going the same way as his England/ GB career.
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| Look at the replay Fages never looks to where the ball was going.in fact his movement was away from the ball to obstruct Blairs run and not to attempt a tackle on Larroyer
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| Quote ="Burtons Forearm"Child's was an abomination. He clearly can't tell the time never mind officiate.
I nominate Scott Taylor as biggest pri#ck in super league. He never moaned taking Hudgell's money but stabbed him in the back. Then bummed Wigan joins the mercenaries and acts like a two year old when the mercenaries scored. Can't wait till he comes to craven park again.
We chucked it in after they gave up on childs. That was unacceptable.
The knock on for their 3rd try was a joke as was the pen for Larroyer's try. Fages obstructed McCarthy who pushed him out the way. The team penalty lasts for ten mins. The mercenaries lasted 7.
Childs couldn't referee arm wrestling. He should stick to Charles Hawtry look alike contests.'"
But apart from that you like both child and taylor?
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"But apart from that you like both child and taylor?'"
Another mentally challenged post from the fleg.
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| Quote ="roversmad"Another mentally challenged post from the fleg.'"
And a typical vitriolic response from Rovers resident nutter!! Time for the mods to grow some and get rid of this idiot.
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| Quote ="Hessle Roader"And a typical vitriolic response from Rovers resident nutter!! Time for the mods to grow some and get rid of this idiot.'"
They can both be as bad as each other, one baits the other bites. I enjoy some witty put downs and the like but these spats get very tedious to be honest.
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| Quote ="barham red"They can both be as bad as each other, one baits the other bites. I enjoy some witty put downs and the like but these spats get very tedious to be honest.'"
Absolutely. I enjoy banter and leg-pulling as much as anyone but as you say, these two need a private forum where they can take the p*ss out of each other.
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| totally agree get rid of them both, very boring imo, pickering red your last post seems spot on,anyway chaps soon be fri and feeling nervous already
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| Quote ="Hessle Roader"And a typical vitriolic response from Rovers resident nutter!! Time for the mods to grow some and get rid of this idiot.'"
We have mods?
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| Quote ="SirStan"We have mods?'"
No. But we have a few who are off their rockers, myself included.
Remember, for many on here Goose is Moderator elect.
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| Quote ="SirStan"We have mods?'"
Where's Luke Skywalker got to?
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| Just watched it on HKR TV.
Not nearly so bad as I thought it would be. We were only behind for 5 minutes. Admittedly, the most important 5.
In my opinion, we played OK first half and some things worked. A few didn't, otherwise we could have been further ahead, but I've seen plenty of good teams miss chances.
Second half I expected to see a collapse but really it was just our old problem of not being able to clear our lines and keep the opposition in their 40. Our backs do OK and give me hope for the future, if we can keep them, but individually none of our forwards inspire me much. But we pretty much knew that before the season started, we hoped we could just score at least one more than we conceded and we've done pretty much that at home but not away.
I hope its not all gloom, all we need (sounds easy I know) is a watertight defensive pack to avoid losing, then let the backs win us the game. We've got the flair that you can't teach, surely our back-room staff can teach better tackling technique and defensive teamwork?
Anyway, not feeling as bad as I was on Sunday night. Roll on the next game.
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| our pack your backs, good team that
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| Quote ="Hessle Roader"Where's Luke Skywalker got to?'"
Rob Chadwick ate him
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| Quote ="barham red"They can both be as bad as each other, one baits the other bites. I enjoy some witty put downs and the like but these spats get very tedious to be honest.'"
Whoa there. I come one here and post a mix of banter and reasoned posts. I stopped responding to the problem poster a long time ago but he's like a faithful hound and follows me around. I can't stop him responding to my posts but certainly don't encourage it in any way. Some of the things he posts are pretty disgraceful and I hope there are no kids who read this forum. The mods should have nipped it in the bud a long time ago but seemingly aren't interested despite all of the posts being against the AUP and the forum no swearing policy. by all means, if you're unhappy with what he posts then raise your issue with the board or even the forum mods. I'll continue to ignore him as I couldn't care less
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| Quote ="hull2524"totally agree get rid of them both, very boring imo, pickering red your last post seems spot on,anyway chaps soon be fri and feeling nervous already'"
Have you ever had an opinion of your own?
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