There are always going to be instances of players leaving a lower placed club to a bigger side and having a positive impact there. Scott Wheeldon has proven that this year.
However, i think it is fair to say that in the vast majority of cases that wouldnt be the end result. Common sence tells you that if a player isnt good enough for a bottom 3 side then the chances are he wont be good enough for a top 4 side.

I'd have thought common sense would tell you that players aren't always released because as individuals they aren't good enough, there are a variety of reasons why players are released. Off field issues, clashes with coaching staff, needing a new challenge etc. A hell of a lot of players at the bottom 3 clubs would do jobs higher up in the leagues playing in different teams with different coaches in my opinion.

Also, the bottom 3 teams in the SL table aren't always the worst 3 teams in the league. Only on results. (but that doesnt mean their players are always worse)

yes, were a friendly club who will help any other rugby side.

look what we've done for hkr for example.

we made shaun fall in love with the area and than released him, didn't pay cooke what he was worth so he got pee'd off and re signed(we even helped further by not making him sign a contract), our ceo and chairperson deceided dobson was worth 50k and didn't listen to the coach and then we alson let wheeldon go and kept king and thackray.

were a very charitable club! a bit like the broncos letting titans have prince!

Fair do's

Did you really just type that last paragraph?

Yes. Results aren't always down to the players!

TBF i think you have a point.

DDD always seems to blame the ref

I prefer to blame the coach and our tactics. (notice ive not blamed injuries or refs!!)



Just think its great that RBA is writing off players in bottom 3 clubs even though the league position of the clubs isnt always a relfection of the players ability. There are the obvious exceptions such as Chris Thorman who should never play in SL again!!

Its easy to blame the coach

It's not a reflection of each individuals ability but it's safe I think it's safe to say there's not 75 top quality players in the squads of the bottom 3

So another one then that thinks players from bottom 3 clubs are all obviously lacking in ability and none of them are good enough to make it for a top 3 or 4 club.

Do you honestly not get that clubs performances are not always reflective of players ability and performances?

It is when he's tripe like ours.

I didnt say all of the players did i? I agree that lots wouldnt be good enough. But at the same time only a fool would write all 75 off like RBA has done?

Was talking to a relative of his and while we have given him more money, its not a lot more and the main reason he came was he was disallusioned with the coaching at KC and feels his career as a player is best served at HKR. He had the chance of another club as well (did not say who)

Dont blame him, we should never have tried to make him a back rower.

Read your original post.

"Also, the bottom 3 teams in the SL table aren't always the worst 3 teams in the league. Only on results."

That's garbage. Your point about [iindividuals[/i is perfectly fine and I agree, but the 3 worst teams do finish in the bottom 3. That's how league tables work.

Incorrect. The 3 teams that pick up the least points always finish in the bottom 3. There are varying dependencies that mean they arent always the worst teams. (unless the only thing that matters is picking up the 2 points which imo it most definately isnt)

So when we had the first past the post system are you telling us the best team didn't win the league every season?

its fair enough bud, he should have never been moved from hooker.

i am actually glad we didn't offer him a equal or greater deal if he can get sl rugby its better than playing reserves. the potential fee could have put other clubs off.

Sometimes they dont do they. The team that wins isnt always the best team, they just pick up more points. When we won 13 games on the bounce the other year we only played well in 2 of those games. I would therefore argue that even though we got to the GF we weren't the 2nd best team in the league. We just had other things that went for us such as luck etc.

No guarantee he'll get SL rugby with Rovers.

no theres not but he'll have a better chance, especailly with hkr only having 2 reconised hookers.

So you don't think Celtic, Salford and Hull FC have been the worst teams overall this season? Who has been worse, overall?

And if picking up 2 points isn't the only thing that matter, what else does? The Fair Play index?