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| Quote ="Wizard crane"So he feels depressed over the death of his Mum ..yes been there for Mum and Dad and yes it really hurts and for me like many it takes some getting over. So on Mothers day he decides to take cocaine . Why if he has not taken it before would he suddenly decide he needed to do this, Where and how did he know where to get it from? if he has not done it before did hot walk the streets asking people how he can get it? come on get real he and the club are in damage limitation mode and sadly using his mums death as an excuse for that alone he deserves all he gets'"
I've never done Cocaine but I can guarantee that if I was on a night out and i wanted some, it wouldn't be difficult for me to find it.
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| Quote ="LifeLongHKRFan"I've never done Cocaine but I can guarantee that if I was on a night out and i wanted some, it wouldn't be difficult for me to find it.'"
That is the part of this whole issue for me. I do feel for the kid however class A drugs aren’t sat in Asda next to the vitamin C and Cod Liver Oil. Regardless of his depression he made a concerted effort to obtain an illegal substance. Now this was either a snap decision on the day or it was already in his possession, either way we probably wont find out but he has crossed a line and will need to take whatever ban comes his way
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| Quote ="Rural Robin"That is the part of this whole issue for me. I do feel for the kid however class A drugs aren’t sat in Asda next to the vitamin C and Cod Liver Oil. Regardless of his depression he made a concerted effort to obtain an illegal substance. Now this was either a snap decision on the day or it was already in his possession, either way we probably wont find out but he has =#FF0000crossed a line and will need to take whatever ban comes his way'"
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| Quote ="Hessle rover"When did we lose the ability to sort our own problems out without the need of countless individuals putting an arm around our shoulders.
This society these days makes me despair. Everyone’s turning into Fannys.'"
Very enlightened. With drivel like that it makes people who are ill embarrassed to seek help. Maybe if you, your family or a friend has "problems" you'll have a rethink, but then again perhaps not.
Terry Newton what a fanny he was.
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| Quote ="Marcus's Bicycle"Very enlightened. With drivel like that it makes people who are ill embarrassed to seek help. Maybe if you, your family or a friend has "problems" you'll have a rethink, but then again perhaps not.
Terry Newton what a fanny he was.'"
Oh please......another tree hugger that has a hissy fit when we don’t toe the line how everyone should by the liberal left.
Some of us have had an upbringing from pre war parents who had a grittier look on life, that past down to me of course. I care a lot about close family and friends. But when somebody is a bloody idiot by taking substances he knows he shouldn’t, the ‘oh woe is me card’ doesn’t wash.
Terry newton’s death was a tragedy and I’ve had a close family member who jumped off the bridge without even a sign anything was wrong. If there going to do it, there’s diddly squat you can do about it.
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| Oh dear another member of the nasty party, thought that ended with Thatcher, sounds like you had it tough though, shame compassion wasn't passed down as well as true grit.
My parents and grandparents weren't brought up in the lap of luxury either nor was I.
Just as a matter of interest are you one of the four Yorkshireman? Did you get up eat a lump of cold poison, work twenty-nine hours a day down mill, and pay mill owner for permission to come to work?
You point out that you had a family member sadly committed suicide but there wasn't a sign anything was wrong, however in your previous post you suggest that people should sort out their own problems. Perhaps if he or she had the confidence to seek help from others this tragedy may have been avoided.
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| Don't think there is a wrong or right viewpoint on this it's a personal thing? I choose to see the lad who made a poor choice and will probably pay a huge price and have nothing but sympathy for him.
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| Quote ="Hessle rover"Oh please......another tree hugger that has a hissy fit when we don’t toe the line how everyone should by the liberal left.
Some of us have had an upbringing from pre war parents who had a grittier look on life, that past down to me of course. I care a lot about close family and friends. But when somebody is a bloody idiot by taking substances he knows he shouldn’t, the ‘oh woe is me card’ doesn’t wash.
Terry newton’s death was a tragedy and I’ve had a close family member who jumped off the bridge without even a sign anything was wrong. If there going to do it, there’s diddly squat you can do about it.'"
Putting aside Minns failed drug test .
You refer to people with genuine mental health issues as “Fanny’s”. Yet you say a member of your family jumped off the bridge .
If that person had approached you and stated they felt suicidal would you have called them a fanny? , you then go on to contradict yourself and call Terry Newton’s suicide a tragedy .
Terry Newton’s suicide was a tragedy but your family member jumping off the bridge was diddly squat you could do about it .
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| Best advice I can give anyone on here is put "the reason" on ignore .can't read his bilge but get a warning it has posted. It's Eddy from hdm
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| Why are we discussing mental health when this is about drug taking? I’m unsure why one is considered a legitimate reason for the other.
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| After reading both the club and the players statements i think both points are relevant.Hes going to kop a ban I just think the club don't want a Newton type outcome?
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| Wow. There’s some right <REMOVED> on here tonight. Brought up in a hippy corbynista fashion no doubt! The no backbone generation...... or the under forty snowflake generation that has appeared from the vocal minority of the population.
And by the way MB, my parents did a fantastic job in raising me. Unfortunately you seem to have lost your way some what. I have an opinion and you do what the left do well, by castigating that opinion, and not accepting that others look at it differently to you.
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| Quote ="SirStan"Why are we discussing mental health when this is about drug taking? I’m unsure why one is considered a legitimate reason for the other.'"
Don’t know Stan. I called this generation Fanny’s and all hell’s broke loose.
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| Think best thing to do is wait and see how it unfolds and what punishment he received.Agree about Comrade Corbyn .Seems to be a 50/50 split over both kr forums on this issue and i see both sides.But either way it's bad for him and the club.Enough problems without this
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| Quote ="craig hkr"Think best thing to do is wait and see how it unfolds and what punishment he received.Agree about Comrade Corbyn .Seems to be a 50/50 split over both kr forums on this issue and i see both sides.But either way it's bad for him and the club.Enough problems without this'"
Sick to death of problems coming out the club Craig. Every year there seem to be a mini drama that de-rails our season.
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| Yes it was always going to be a struggle but we seem to lurch from one drama to another.No foundation for success and since Wembley it's been mainly negative. Salford looking like beating Wakey tonight and that's bad for us as well. Next 3 or 4 games we need to lay down some sort of marker.Cup then league.
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| Poor kid might have to get a real job like the rest of us and actually work for a living. Tragic
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| That's harsh but true
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| Quote ="Hessle rover"Oh please......another tree hugger that has a hissy fit when we don’t toe the line how everyone should by the liberal left.
Some of us have had an upbringing from pre war parents who had a grittier look on life, that past down to me of course. I care a lot about close family and friends. But when somebody is a bloody idiot by taking substances he knows he shouldn’t, the ‘oh woe is me card’ doesn’t wash.
Terry newton’s death was a tragedy and I’ve had a close family member who jumped off the bridge without even a sign anything was wrong. If there going to do it, there’s diddly squat you can do about it.'"
Hassle Rover can you answer my question ...
You refer to people with genuine mental health issues as “Fanny’s”. Yet you say a member of your family jumped off the bridge .
If that person had approached you and stated they felt suicidal would you have called them a fanny? , you then go on to contradict yourself and call Terry Newton’s suicide a tragedy .
Terry Newton’s suicide was a tragedy but your family member jumping off the bridge was diddly squat you could do about it .
Wow .
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| Quote ="The Reason"Hassle Rover can you answer my question ...
You refer to people with genuine mental health issues as “Fanny’s”. Yet you say a member of your family jumped off the bridge .
If that person had approached you and stated they felt suicidal would you have called them a fanny? , you then go on to contradict yourself and call Terry Newton’s suicide a tragedy .
Terry Newton’s suicide was a tragedy but your family member jumping off the bridge was diddly squat you could do about it .
Wow .'"
I can understand what hessle rover getting at to me Minns took drugs got caught then tried to blame it on the death of his mother which I don't buy but the way society is going you can't say anything in case you upset someone sometimes you have to man up and admit what you did and not use the death of your mother as an excuse
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| Quote ="The Reason"Hassle Rover can you answer my question ...
You refer to people with genuine mental health issues as “Fanny’s”. Yet you say a member of your family jumped off the bridge .
If that person had approached you and stated they felt suicidal would you have called them a fanny? , you then go on to contradict yourself and call Terry Newton’s suicide a tragedy .
Terry Newton’s suicide was a tragedy but your family member jumping off the bridge was diddly squat you could do about it .
Wow .'"
It was a tradgedy on both counts you moron. What can you do to prevent it when they don’t approach you.
And looking at what happened in my family to what Minns is going through is totally different. Taking your life to taking drugs to get you through a difficult period is totally different. Or are you too thick to notice.
Hence Fanny’s.
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| Quote ="fun time frankie"I can understand what hessle rover getting at to me Minns took drugs got caught then tried to blame it on the death of his mother which I don't buy but the way society is going you can't say anything in case you upset someone sometimes you have to man up and admit what you did and not use the death of your mother as an excuse'"
Your missing the point ...:
Put it into context Terry Newton’s suicide was a tragedy but his family member jumping off the bridge was diddly squat he could do about it . !!
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| Quote ="Hessle rover"It was a tradgedy on both counts you moron. What can you do to prevent it when they don’t approach you.
And looking at what happened in my family to what Minns is going through is totally different. Taking your life to taking drugs to get you through a difficult period is totally different. Or are you too thick to notice.
Hence Fanny’s.'"
So if the family member who sadly jumped off the bridge had approached you and stated they had issues would you have classed them as a fanny ?
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| Quote ="The Reason"So if the family member who sadly jumped off the bridge had approached you and stated they had issues would you have classed them as a fanny ?'"
He's explained what he meant so why do you keep repeating the same thing
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| I don't have anything to add that has not been said by others.
Except to clarify Minns will get a 2 year ban his mitigation if accepted would open a barn door.
Rovers will have no choice other than to terminate his contract to do so now would be unseemly but it will happen at some point.
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