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| Quote ="AJ Viking"Kav was decent for us in the Championship too, pattern emerging here.
No idea why Burke is mentioned so much in this thread, he hasn't played this year, isn't good enough to get into our 19 when we have everyone.
We've picked up some knocks last week in Craven, Bridge & Hanbury which is a big loss, but I'm assumed as posters writing us off so much. Our failings this year has been down to injuries (we've used more players in the first team this year than any other team in SL) and it has shown. When we've got players back we've looked a lot better.
Expect a decent game but playing SL all season will go in our favour.'"
Sounds very similar to us last season, we'll be alright because we've been playing SL, that's when the championship really hits you the hardest.
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| Makes no sense? We've put 60 on Featherstone and nearly 40 on Halifax?
I expect a tough game, and the fact we've been in more tough games this year will stand us in good stead. You're not a Championship side, that's the difference (but played Championship sides all year - that's my point!).
Betts knows all about this division, he coached in it for 4 years.
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| Both teams will be desperate for the win.Bookies give Widnes a 2pt start so very close game expected . As a fan I'm taking nothing for granted but looking at squads and key injuries for them it's there if we are good enough on day
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| Weather and officials may have a big say in the result.
We are due some luck in a big game.
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| Quote ="Burtons Forearm"Weather and officials may have a big say in the result.
We are due some luck in a big game.'"
Indeed.
We deserve some luck whatever IMO.
The current system means that if you are relegated you are given a cut of £1million in funding but can only come back if you can beat teams who retain full funding. In other words...here's 750k ....if you can be better than teams with £1.8m funding you can come back.
We are within distance of achieving just that...if achieved it won't be luck it will be a wonderful achievement.
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| Quote ="AJ Viking"Makes no sense? We've put 60 on Featherstone and nearly 40 on Halifax?
I expect a tough game, and the fact we've been in more tough games this year will stand us in good stead. You're not a Championship side, that's the difference (but played Championship sides all year - that's my point!).
Betts knows all about this division, he coached in it for 4 years.'"
We beat both London and Batley 58-18 in last seasons middles and it counted for nothing in the end.
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| Widnes are playing some good stuff and even with their injuries they have some good players.
That said this isn't the plagatron 3000 pitch and u should expect a welcome akin to a Galatasaray away supporter... Welcome to Hull!
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| Quote ="Burtons Forearm"Weather and officials may have a big say in the result.
We are due some luck in a big game.'"
Due some luck?
Widnes lose 3 key players for this match
Catalan lose 2 key players in Bird and Walsh
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| Quote ="bonaire"Due some luck?
Widnes lose 3 key players for this match
Catalan lose 2 key players in Bird and Walsh'"
Still hurts doesn't it?
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| Quote ="bonaire"Due some luck?
Widnes lose 3 key players for this match
Catalan lose 2 key players in Bird and Walsh'"
Walsh will play against us maybe not this weekend, no sympathy for bird he's just a dirty bast.
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| Knowing our luck, even if we manage to squeeze by Widnes, Leigh will beat Warrington.
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| Been to see both your matches away at Leigh this year, not that impressed to be honest
Was very confident after our match with Leigh last week.
However Hanbury, Craven and Bridge are massive losses for us. The weather wont help either, we always seem to do crap in the wet.
I am hopeful we can win but I think the bookies have it right to put you guys slight favourites!
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| Quote ="craig hkr"Still hurts doesn't it?'"
Sorry Craigy what hurts?
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| Quote ="moxi1"We beat both London and Batley 58-18 in last seasons middles and it counted for nothing in the end.'"
I don't get your point? Original poster said the Championship hits you hard when you don't expect it, so far it hasn't so the argument holds absolutely no weight whatsoever. Also, we know what to expect having been in this division (with this coach) for so long.
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| Quote ="AJ Viking"I don't get your point? Original poster said the Championship hits you hard when you don't expect it, so far it hasn't so the argument holds absolutely no weight whatsoever. Also, we know what to expect having been in this division (with this coach) for so long.'"
What I meant by my statement is that you have the same attitude as ourselves last year, not going down, we're SL, we'll be ok approach. As a fan, when your team gets relegated to the championship when you're not expecting it, that's when it hurts the most/hits you the hardest.
You seem to think because you beat Fev/Fax comfortably that you'll be fine coming up against us because we apparently 'struggled' to beat them. That's why I brought up the 58-18 scorlines of last year, because they meant nothing when we played Leigh, Hudds etc.
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| Big game, could go either way.
I'd love it, LOVE IT, if we got up tomorrow.
Put the past to bed, end the agonising uncertainty of the qualifiers and start looking forward with hope again.
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| Quote ="moxi1"What I meant by my statement is that you have the same attitude as ourselves last year, not going down, we're SL, we'll be ok approach. As a fan, when your team gets relegated to the championship when you're not expecting it, that's when it hurts the most/hits you the hardest.
You seem to think because you beat Fev/Fax comfortably that you'll be fine coming up against us because we apparently 'struggled' to beat them. That's why I brought up the 58-18 scorlines of last year, because they meant nothing when we played Leigh, Hudds etc.'"
Mate, you're wrong on both counts.
So many Widnes fans had/have us for going down because this year just hasn't been good enough, we've not built on what we did the previous year (top 7) and didn't replace Brown until two-thirds of the way through the season and we all know what happened with Rangi.
No Widnes fans 'think we'll be fine against you', we rarely win at Craven Park and as I've already said, you've got a SL side already so it's going to be very hard for us to get something out of the game, particularly as we've lost Hanbury, Bridge & Craven.
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| Quote ="AJ Viking"Mate, you're wrong on both counts.
So many Widnes fans had/have us for going down because this year just hasn't been good enough, we've not built on what we did the previous year (top 7) and didn't replace Brown until two-thirds of the way through the season and we all know what happened with Rangi.
No Widnes fans 'think we'll be fine against you', we rarely win at Craven Park and as I've already said, you've got a SL side already so it's going to be very hard for us to get something out of the game, particularly as we've lost Hanbury, Bridge & Craven.'"
I suggest you go on your own forum then because there's plenty of Widnes fans saying exactly that
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| What you doing on a Widnes forum and obviously your reading differently than me. Yes always the odd numpty who is clueless but on here 3 Widnes fans including myself do not think this game will be easy? Reading some posts on here the HKR fans think Widnes will be easy beats. I am sure HKR be less confident if lost 3 players in key postions? Fullback, halfback and Centre I see as key postions.
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| We have decent cover in all 3 and have been without one of each all this playoff series.Abdull Quinlan Minns. Atkins Moss covered half and full back equally well and had numerous players cover Minns at centre.All 3 in squad versus Widnes so you have a point in there. I reckon both sets of fans are of a similar mindset in mainly nervous but with reasons to believe our own team could /should be victorious? On paper I believe we look more potent but on the pitch it remains to be seen if we can live with the speed and fitness that Widnes bring as a superleague side? I remember as a fan feeling the same re Leigh and was just waiting for them to blow up.They didn't and I don't think we will, however it would be most Rover's like if we messed the job up which would lead to an even bigger pressure game week after. Anything is possible ...Fwiw I would play Moss and Atkin but expect both to miss out
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| Quote ="OFFTHECUFF"What you doing on a Widnes forum and obviously your reading differently than me. Yes always the odd numpty who is clueless but on here 3 Widnes fans including myself do not think this game will be easy? Reading some posts on here the HKR fans think Widnes will be easy beats. I am sure HKR be less confident if lost 3 players in key postions? Fullback, halfback and Centre I see as key postions.'"
Firstly I went on the Widnes forum probably for the same reason you went on the Hull KR forum secondly where are all the fans saying you will be easybeats I don't see any and thirdly I've already quoted what some of your fans have said
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| I think you'll win today and next week against les cats. The standard of all 4 SL sides in this middle 8's comp has been pretty awful with even warrington not really making any real mark on them. If you don't get promoted you only have yourselves to blame as widnes, leaigh and les cats are all there for the taking IMO.
We need you in SL as we've dropped 4 of the equivalent 6 points we get from you this season
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| Quote ="fun time frankie"Firstly I went on the Widnes forum probably for the same reason you went on the Hull KR forum secondly where are all the fans saying you will be easybeats I don't see any and thirdly I've already quoted what some of your fans have said'"
Yeah and where are the Widnes fans saying you are easy beats? I don't think so at all, as I think HKR will beat us.
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"I think you'll win today and next week against les cats. The standard of all 4 SL sides in this middle 8's comp has been pretty awful with even warrington not really making any real mark on them. If you don't get promoted yoou only have yourselves to blame as widnes, leaigh and les cats are all there for the taking IMO.
We need you in SL as we've dropped 4 of the equivalent 6 points we get from you this season'"
Poor fishing trip there.Since your holiday your wit has been under par
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"I think you'll win today and next week against les cats. The standard of all 4 SL sides in this middle 8's comp has been pretty awful with even warrington not really making any real mark on them. If you don't get promoted you only have yourselves to blame as widnes, leaigh and les cats are all there for the taking IMO.
We need you in SL as we've dropped 4 of the equivalent 6 points we get from you this season'"
You always say we're going to win
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