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| Quote ="SirStan"So, 5 wins in 1 1/2 seasons away from home. Cause for optimism?'"
It's actually won 7 Away in 1 1/2 seasons.
2012 we won away 5 times.
2013 we,ve won away twice,( & got robbed at Etihad) and have 6 away games left.
Just out of interest we won away 5 x in 2011 & 2010 + a draw in 2010.
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A follow up interview from NH in the HDM about CS new deal:
www.hulldailymail.co.uk/Sanderco ... story.html
We're within £70k of the cap, and it will probably fall again next year. So now we know, on that.
CS is working on his media profile. As long as he doesn't over compensate - no glove puppets Craig! - that is for the best.
Stronger board, fresh investment, new north stand and optimism - good to see!
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A follow up interview from NH in the HDM about CS new deal:
www.hulldailymail.co.uk/Sanderco ... story.html
We're within £70k of the cap, and it will probably fall again next year. So now we know, on that.
CS is working on his media profile. As long as he doesn't over compensate - no glove puppets Craig! - that is for the best.
Stronger board, fresh investment, new north stand and optimism - good to see!
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| Quote ="Jimmy Carr"Great News'"
Yes Jimmy it is.
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| Quote ="SirStan"So, 5 wins in 1 1/2 seasons away from home. Cause for optimism?'"
A lot of clubs, with one or two notable exceptions, have poor away records. Our Exalted neighbours have only won 3 away this season ( not including neutral ground game)failing to win at London and they only have 4 away games left as opposed to our 6.
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| SANDERCOCK NOW HAS A MASSIVE TEST WE HAVE JUST SEEN WHAT CATALANS DID TO A NAILED ON TOP TWO TEAM LIKE FC (ACCORDING TO THE PEOPLE I GET IN MY TAXI) NOW ITS ROVERS TURN, I HAVE NO DOUBT SANDERCOCK WILL HAVE A CUNNING PLAN TO PUT THIS TEAM FULL OF MAN MOUNTAINS TO THE SWORD.
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| Once again, (for about the nine thousandth time) Cab Idiot is a pastiche, a fantasy, a blue grass filigree, not real, a Siren's call on the rocks of doom, a Sphinx's shat, a philanderer of words, not even a ghost, not a fable, not a foible.
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| Quote ="SirStan"I'm unimpressed by this news. Too many Rovers fans appear to be getting carried away by victory over a truly appalling Wakefield side, beating Bradford in a tedious (for the most part) match, and then victory over a knackered Huddersfield side. All of which were at home. Our run in may find us out, and I sincerely hope I'm wrong, but where is the next away win coming from? I will be in Toulouse a week on Saturday and lets hope its there.
We will need to win 4 or 5 games from the last 9 to make the 8. So, 1 or possibly 2 away wins are a must.'"
rugby fans in Hull seem to be the most fickle in the game. Coaches, players and full teams can go from completely useless to potential grand finalists on the back of a ropey win here or there. Too few people really understand what's actually going on.
As for sandy, seems any new investment into the club will be less than hudge and crossland have been putting in so what choice did the club really have?
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg" As for sandy, [useems any new investment into the club will be less than hudge and crossland have been putting in[/u so what choice did the club really have?'"
You've made one heck of a statement there! Are you sure about this?
As far as I am aware Rovers Board have secured additional sponsorship NOT new investment.
By inference, taken from NHs interview with the HDM, Rovers will be operating on similar lines in 2014 as 2013, so how on earth you concocted your statement is beyond me!
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| Quote ="Paul T - HKR"You've made one heck of a statement there! Are you sure about this?
As far as I am aware Rovers Board have secured additional sponsorship NOT new investment.
By inference, taken from NHs interview with the HDM, Rovers will be operating on similar lines in 2014 as 2013, so how on earth you concocted your statement is beyond me!'"
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Are you sure? I concocted nothing, merely using the information your owner put in the public domain
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"Are you sure? I concocted nothing, merely using the information your owner put in the public domain'"
You seem to have a problem distinguishing between improved sponsorship and new investment - it is the former that is bolstering the finances for 2014 NOT the latter.
If/When new investors come on board, then and only then can we attempt to debate your concocted statement.
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| Quote ="Paul T - HKR"You seem to have a problem distinguishing between improved sponsorship and new investment - it is the former that is bolstering the finances for 2014 NOT the latter.
If/When new investors come on board, then and only then can we attempt to debate your concocted statement.'"
I don't have a problem with anything. hudge has already indicated that there will be a new make up of your board and possibly club ownership next year. Whether any money comes into the club as a loan or sponsorship is irrelevant to the point that sandy will likely have less cash to play with next year on the salary cap. Try and spin it how you like but that is what your club owner has said
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| Quote ="SirStan"I'm unimpressed by this news. Too many Rovers fans appear to be getting carried away by victory over a truly appalling Wakefield side, beating Bradford in a tedious (for the most part) match, and then victory over a knackered Huddersfield side. All of which were at home. Our run in may find us out, and I sincerely hope I'm wrong, but where is the next away win coming from? I will be in Toulouse a week on Saturday and lets hope its there.
We will need to win 4 or 5 games from the last 9 to make the 8. So, 1 or possibly 2 away wins are a must.'"
I'm man enough to self-troll and admit the bloke has turned it round. Well done sir!
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| Certainly seems like C.S has shown that we all as fans can be guilty of showing short-termism. The team deserves a good showing from supporters on Sunday. Hopefully fans will turn up and cheer on the lads and show our gratitude and cheer on the boys to make it five on the bounce.
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| I'll have a slice of that.
I'd patiently supported him and then that ran out after the Wigan debacle.
He's got it back on track and we're seeing some of the fruits of what I assume to be his one on one sessions with the likes of Eden, Walker and Cox.
Talking of Eden, I owe a similar post on his thread.
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| Seems all rugby fans in Hull have the same ethos - best team in the world when we win a few, worst when we lose a few.
I think it's called gettingcarriedawayitis
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"Seems all rugby fans in Hull have the same ethos - best team in the world when we win a few, worst when we lose a few.
I think it's called gettingcarriedawayitis'"
I don't think anyone on this side has made outlandish claims of being a top 4 club despite all evidence to the contrary
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| I think if we start to play crap again this season, or next we should start the sack sandy threads again it seemed to work this time
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| Quote ="SirStan"I'm man enough to self-troll and admit the bloke has turned it round. Well done sir!
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Well done Stan.
If you give an opinion you always run the risk of events proving you wrong but opinions are what a fans forum is all about.
Rovers now have more league points than in the whole of last season with 7 games still remaining so it's reasonable to say progress has been made.
The last 3 games have been massive, if we'd lost those we'd be stuck on 16 points and struggling to match last season's modest effort. Last season we played really well in the Catalans & Saints away games but lost both narrowly. Margins are pretty fine.
Dobson will be a huge loss but the form of Burns certainly softens the blow. He's creating as much or more than Dobson at the moment and Greg Eden has been nothing short of sensational. We'll still have the basis of a good team and Sandercock makes good signings there are sure to be some quality additions.
Hopefully everyone can get behind the coach now. We have a good chance of making the play offs and who knows maybe we can have a say in how the season unfolds.
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| Some times, as KR fans we need to take a step back and see what we have acheived in the past few seasons, promotion and cosolodation in a leauge where the margins between success and medioctity are very small.
We can all look back to the halcyon days of the 80`s but they have gone and we deal with what we have now.
I remember the first seaons back in SL, the spirit and attitude in the East Stand was if we win fantastic, if we compete and compete and loose still good.After that period as a whole we expected to win and voiced our disapproval of players, coaching etc etc, forgetting how far we have come.
Look at our team , competing with the best, playing attractive physical rugby, look at the new stand, look at the average age of the KR team, I beleive we are improving week on week.
As a KR fan I am excited by the future, because only a short time ago we did not have a plan or any future.I beleive CS is an out standing one on one coach who will and does improve players skill base and attitude.as we are aware he is operating under very difficult conditions and is at the moment producing results.
How often do you hear Phil Clarke say that dennis Betts has the hardest job in SL? Aside from the normal Wigan/Widnes bias on Sky, with big money available, and the resources that he has access to? etc etc. how can that be possibly said?
Agar last year did exeptionally well at Wakefeild and was in my opinion the high acheiver in SL working with what he had available, this year on the results so far, with the exeption of the Wigan result,CS must be a contender for some sort of recognition.
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| Quote ="peteron58"Some times, as KR fans we need to take a step back and see what we have acheived in the past few seasons, promotion and cosolodation in a leauge where the margins between success and medioctity are very small.
We can all look back to the halcyon days of the 80`s but they have gone and we deal with what we have now.
I remember the first seaons back in SL, the spirit and attitude in the East Stand was if we win fantastic, if we compete and compete and loose still good.After that period as a whole we expected to win and voiced our disapproval of players, coaching etc etc, forgetting how far we have come.
Look at our team , competing with the best, playing attractive physical rugby, look at the new stand, look at the average age of the KR team, I beleive we are improving week on week.
As a KR fan I am excited by the future, because only a short time ago we did not have a plan or any future.I beleive CS is an out standing one on one coach who will and does improve players skill base and attitude.as we are aware he is operating under very difficult conditions and is at the moment producing results.
How often do you hear Phil Clarke say that dennis Betts has the hardest job in SL? Aside from the normal Wigan/Widnes bias on Sky, with big money available, and the resources that he has access to? etc etc. how can that be possibly said?
Agar last year did exeptionally well at Wakefeild and was in my opinion the high acheiver in SL working with what he had available, this year on the results so far, with the exeption of the Wigan result,CS must be a contender for some sort of recognition.'"
You're operating at near full salary cap and, whilst you may not have the staff and infrastructure of the top teams, I doubt they are any worse than any of the clubs currently outside the top 8
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| True, as I said I am excited to be where we are and what we have acheived.I am in no doubt that the majority of SL teams are on the whole operating on the same sort of budgets.
I do wonder how thougth, some teams do manage to carry on, the overheads and day to day running of a club far exceeds their income. The only explanation can be that they have chairmen/boards with deep pockects to keep them in existence.the sky money, attendance revenue , and some sponsorship is the only visble income.
By the way we are not outside the top eight.
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| Quote ="peteron58"True, as I said I am excited to be where we are and what we have acheived.I am in no doubt that the majority of SL teams are on the whole operating on the same sort of budgets.
I do wonder how thougth, some teams do manage to carry on, the overheads and day to day running of a club far exceeds their income. The only explanation can be that they have chairmen/boards with deep pockects to keep them in existence.the sky money, attendance revenue , and some sponsorship is the only visble income.
By the way we are not outside the top eight.'"
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"You're operating at near full salary cap and, whilst you may not have the staff and infrastructure of the top teams, I doubt they are any worse than any of the clubs currently outside the top 8'"
Neil Hudgell on HKR TV last week said that Rovers have been 'a long way below the cap' this season.
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