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| Quote ="RIGSBY"dont try to get round me now just because you were..... NILLED
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I was "nilled" was I? How do you work that one out Tarbuck? Presumably your tiny scouse brain thinks that because I'm on this forum I must be a Hull KR supporter? Does that mean you are too, =#FF0000gormclops? You're wrong pal. My lot also got beat this weekend, but they've stuffed your lot good and proper already this season .
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| we could still be playing now and wouldnt have scored lol
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| Quote ="SaintsFan"That's poor. We have been lucky in that we got a group of about seven quality players in our 2008 academy team who were all promoted last season and had their debuts last season, so they have been able to step in reasonably well this season when we have yet again been battered with injuries (Foster, Armstrong, Dixon and Ashurst were from that group and were playing tonight). Eastmond. Moore and Wheeler were from an earlier group and I think only two have been promoted from last season's group (a halfback and a centre). But it was the 2008 academy team that garnished us with a useful looking number of young players for this season.
I think a couple of our previous coaches looked to the NRL when injuries hit but Saints have changed tack in recent years, for a number of reasons. I think it pays off.'"
Saints, Leeds and Hull FC have always had the best youth production lines IMO, but were a few years off that standard yet, it takes time to get the top youngsters coming through like the mentioned clubs have because when a top youngster shows up everyone wants him obviously,
hopefully over the next couple of seasons we might start to see a few more home grown kids coming through the ranks.
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| I did feel for you yesterday.
Having watched us start the season getting thumped by all and sundry (including yourselves) I know what a long afternoon it can feel like.
But to be positive, lots of Quins fans were calling for the head of our coach and predicting gloom and doom. Then a couple of key players come back, something clicks, and we're winning again. I'm not saying we were brilliant against FC, but there were definitely flashes of the old magic. So keep the faith, these things can turn around.
A much bigger positive were the Rovers fans we met in the pub afterwards. Still up for a good laugh after watching their team get a hiding. Real credit to themselves and the club.
Wish you all the best for the rest of the season.
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| Quote ="Jack Frost"I was "nilled" was I? How do you work that one out Tarbuck? Presumably your tiny scouse brain thinks that because I'm on this forum I must be a Hull KR supporter? Does that mean you are too, =#FF0000gormclops? You're wrong pal. My lot also got beat this weekend, but they've stuffed your lot good and proper already this season
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tarbuck?????..as in jimmy do u mean?
stuffed us lot good and proper this season..oh i know who your team is now.
is that the team that got stuffed at the kc a couple of seasons ago...46 nill was it..
see so you did get nilled by us once.
have a nice day mr,frost and dont go melting now...
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| As usual I leave it overnight before posting. It was painfull to watch but a master class from Leon Pryce A great saints performance well done to them espescially the defence Rovers were lucky to get nill. It hurts but hey I am still alive no one is hurt & we will have another chance. Lets not panic but instead take the next two weeks to rest & re group. Give the boys a chance to make amends. Lucky for me I am away in Egypt for two weeks rest in the sun I will be ready for the rest of the season when I get back. Any posatives for Justin to take? at least I dont think his house has been burgled while he was away.
Anyway I am a rovers supporter & Iam stuck with it. I will still be watching when this lot are long gone(health permitting) I am in it for the long haul but would like this lot to learn & improve.
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| Quote ="His Bobness"That statement seems to assume that we could go further with someone else. But could we?
Not in years to come you understand. I mean NOW.
In years to come with a conveyor belt of young talent in full production, with previous years kids now established as first teamers, the club better established in Super League, with the (necessarily) overpaid players of the early years long gone........yes then we can go further.
TBH Hull FC have all that in place NOW, have nearly double our gates and yet still they are struggling.
So can we go further right now simply by changing the coach? With our youth policy still only showing green shoots, with the ground improvements still incomplete, with the club still spending more than it earns? With the break even figure of 10,000 still a distant dream?
Do you think the way to go forward is a new coach? A coach who is probably the 2nd or 3rd most successful we have had in our history.
The big picture is a large canvass. I ask you to step back and look at it.'"
Point taken about the big picture, and I wasn't just assuming that a new coach could come in and transform HKR into champions or whatever. My point was more that Morgan, in my personal opinion as an outsider (I'm not a HKR fan), is a limited coach whose reputation has been based on a couple of good cup runs, and that a new coach might simply be a way of stopping the club's seemingly reverse momentum, at least in the short term. I bow to your superior in-depth knowledge of the club's shortcomings, though.
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| Quote ="tonylRobin"Saints, Leeds and Hull FC have always had the best youth production lines IMO, but were a few years off that standard yet, it takes time to get the top youngsters coming through like the mentioned clubs have because when a top youngster shows up everyone wants him obviously,
hopefully over the next couple of seasons we might start to see a few more home grown kids coming through the ranks.'"
I would agree it takes time and it will be great for HKR and internationally once your own club's hard work begins to bear fruit.
I think in recent years we have been forced to look to our young players more and more due to the salary cap and also our stadium plans. Spending big bucks on Aussies and the like doesn't do much for the bank balance and also doesn't do much for the international scene. Our present Chairman is a local lad and he has stated quite openly that he would love to see the side full of not only British lads but local lads, which I suppose is the dream of most clubs - or their fans, at least. When players are home grown or have grown up in the sport through the club's ranks then that gives an extra boost to the support and also from the players to their performance.
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| Just got back an hour or so a go and that was total garbage...
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| 24hrs since the result and still no apology on the official website for that utter garbage they have produced for the past 3 games.
We've beaten injury hit sides and usually only just got the result. The last time when we beat Saints they had half their team missing and we managed to get out of jail in the final few minutes. We just got a result at Castleford and we've far from put the sword to many clubs barring Quins.
It takes about 20seconds for Justin to ring the club and ask them to put an official apology on the site, explaining that the players are going to take full responsibility and will not be getting a single day off from now until our next game.
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| Quote ="RIGSBY"you dont need to get any leeds speccies reminding us of our 3 defeats to em..that's all ive heard for the last 3 years..i'm used to it.
last time we won a grand final was...erm..doh..tut....who was it against i cant remember was it HULL?...let me see..i think it was.
aye your right about the dump as well..not be long now though before we have our new stadium..and we wont even have to share it with a football team either..ahem!....either way 3 losses or not..we are still the most sucssesfull team in the superleague era...i await your next page of banter....
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There you go again with the history, Tarbuck. Your SMALL new ground won't have the capacity to stage football matches of any decent calibre. But then again, there's not much good football played your side of Manchester is there.
And dispense with the "...erm..doh..tut....who was it against i cant remember was it HULL?...let me see..i think it was" bo££ocks - you know full well it was Hull FC who stuffed you in February.
Scousers, scousers, on the dole .....
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| Quote ="RIGSBY"come come now..i really think everton and liverpool are much better than the football side you have in hull.....(and why the dole always comes up with scousers really makes me chuckle)..seeing i was born and bred in st,helens..
and as for the stuffed bit..i really wouldnt call that a stuffing...trouble is weve gone up since then..youve gone DOWN..agar out i say..
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Yeh, you have a track record of calling for coaches to be sacked don't you, you fickle bar steward. I remember your "Potter out NOW" thread on the Saints website
What were your comments? [i"a dog with no coaching abilities could do a better job than potter ... and as for dont kick the coach it's early days yet ..this pathetic showing from the team began midway through last season (not just last nights game)
if someone pays good money theyre entitiled to boo..the coaching and team peformances is what you call UNACCEPTABLE not the poor blokes stood in the fog watching trash like that"[/i. What a stalwart supporter you are Tarbuck.
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| Quote ="Jack Frost"Yeh, you have a track record of calling for coaches to be sacked don't you, you fickle bar steward. I remember your "Potter out NOW" thread on the Saints website
What were your comments? [i"a dog with no coaching abilities could do a better job than potter ... and as for dont kick the coach it's early days yet ..this pathetic showing from the team began midway through last season (not just last nights game)
if someone pays good money theyre entitiled to boo..the coaching and team peformances is what you call UNACCEPTABLE not the poor blokes stood in the fog watching trash like that"[/i. What a stalwart supporter you are Tarbuck.'"
Forgot to mention your best lines:
"give scully the coaching job and get rid of that pratt potter....absolute poop again tonight...at least the team will probally want to play for sculthorpe, its obvious they dont want to play for potter" and "a sheep would probally do a better job"
I was right, you really are a stand up comedian Tarbuck.
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| Quote ="Jack Frost"Forgot to mention your best lines:
"give scully the coaching job and get rid of that pratt potter....absolute poop again tonight...at least the team will probally want to play for sculthorpe, its obvious they dont want to play for potter" and "a sheep would probally do a better job"
I was right, you really are a stand up comedian Tarbuck.
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you really have done your backtracking of some of my earlier posts havent you columbo?..what i mean is... the way youve looked my named up and delved into the archives of my earlier posts on here....(which i stand by all of them)
your obsession to do that really flatters me..youve got a way with words as well aint you?
feckin whinging biased scouser....mean sprited to$$er..barsteward..gormclops...bo££ocks....(.what a polite friendly banterman you really are)...and as for my track record of wanting coaches sacked i wouldnt say one coach (mick potter) refers to COACHES..
your scraping the barrel now son....zzzzzzzzzzz...yawn...snore....snooze...etc...
yes my david jason lookalike friend...i also stand by what i said earlier .no matter what you write..we are on the up which way have you gone then?
ps..dont forget to look in the dictionary to see if there's anymore swear words you can disguise to throw at me...
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| Quote ="nick hkr"24hrs since the result and still no apology on the official website for that utter garbage they have produced for the past 3 games.
We've beaten injury hit sides and usually only just got the result. The last time when we beat Saints they had half their team missing and we managed to get out of jail in the final few minutes. We just got a result at Castleford and we've far from put the sword to many clubs barring Quins.
It takes about 20seconds for Justin to ring the club and ask them to put an official apology on the site, explaining that the players are going to take full responsibility and will not be getting a single day off from now until our next game.'"
I think Justin also owes the fans an apology; it's is ego that refused to play Cooke, uses someone at stand off that isn't keeps Mills in the A team when the likes of Vella are not performing and plays the only guy who looks interested out of position on the wing. Admit it Justin; you need to try mixing it up a bit.
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| Well anyhow, we where awful, yet again.
One positive I thought we could take out the game was that our forwards made good yards.
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| Quote ="Jack Frost"As they say in your neck of the woods Tarbuck, "Calm down, calm down ..."
Don't be flattered by the way. I had a bet with a mate that I could keep you on this thread all weekend - and I won. It's double or quits to keep you on all week. I reckon I can keep you on for much longer than that. You won't be able to resist coming back for more. Potter out NOW!
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so glad you won your bet jack..but dont think you'll be getting it doubled my fingers have wore out with all the typing.
when you were looking back on my archive posts you mustnt have noticed the one i put on the hull fc forum a couple of weeks back saying how i felt sorry for the fc fans saying they deserve better than having to put up with agar on their good turnouts for both home and away games....(of which i stick by)...
do u think in future banters you could make it just one liners?
and dont keep reminding me of that win of yours at our place earlier in the season...thats what started my potter out campaign..tattybye for now.
just noticed your profile pic of me saying potter out...gotta admit that made me chuckle.....what would be a better one would be david jason with an agar out sign.
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| Mods, we have got a raging argument between a Saints fan (Rigsby) and a Hull fan(ny) (Frost) on here - is there really any need?
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| Quote ="The Goroka Gene-ius"Mods, we have got a raging argument between a Saints fan (Rigsby) and a Hull fan(ny) (Frost) on here - is there really any need?'"
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| Quote ="The Goroka Gene-ius"Mods, we have got a raging argument between a Saints fan (Rigsby) and a Hull fan(ny) (Frost) on here - is there really any need?'"
Aye, I was hoping it'd die down by itself without me having to be the boring suppressor of banter. Rigsby and Frost - chill out lads and come back on topic, please.
I can't believe I'm insisting that fans of other clubs talk about how rubbish Rovers are!
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| Quote ="Mild Rover"Aye, I was hoping it'd die down by itself without me having to be the boring suppressor of banter. Rigsby and Frost - chill out lads and come back on topic, please.
I can't believe I'm insisting that fans of other clubs talk about how rubbish Rovers are!
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