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| See you all tonight, hope its a good game!
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| Quote ="Ewwenorfolk"Would you seriously call any of Menzies, Lynch, Scruton, Langley, Halley, Kopzcak, L'Estrange, Kearney, Orford, Hall, Kearney or any of the youngsters journeymen? Less than a quarter of our squad are what i'd consider journeymen, hardly full of them?'"
Kearney must be good, you named him twice lol
Plus not so sure how you have rate Halley so highly, yes he looked pretty good last season but is that enough to call him a consistant performer at a high level?
Looking forward to tonight myself, will be my first chance to catch a game so far.
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| Quote ="Ewwenorfolk"Come on Wilko, I think you know you're being a bit harsh with your criticism here.
Yes you were weakened on our friendly, but you cannot deny that Kearney looked good and was very dangerous with ball in hand.
So Menzies & Lynch aren't leaders at all then? Plus Orford is a proven good captain, adn L'Estrange seems like one of the characters who is always spurring the team on.
Saying our squad is full of average journey men is ridiculous and you know it.
Journey men : Sheriffe, Platt, Sykes, Sculthorpe are the only real journey men I see. We have alot of youngsters coming through, and a fair bit of good talent.
Would you seriously call any of Menzies, Lynch, Scruton, Langley, Halley, Kopzcak, L'Estrange, Kearney, Orford, Hall, Kearney or any of the youngsters journeymen? Less than a quarter of our squad are what i'd consider journeymen, hardly full of them?
And if we hadn't have let Burgess go, I doubt he'd have played like he did in the 4 nations for us, if he doesn't want to be here, plus you had the same thing with Ellis and didn't seem to suffer.
Lastly, he needs to prove himself, and I find it harder to disagree with your last point!'"
ok my old mucker where do i start?
ok lets look at the journey men, add to your list reardon, nero, worrincy, godwin
so thats reardon, nero, worrincy, godwin, Sheriffe, Platt, Sykes, Sculthorpe. that more than a few holes in your squad plugged imho.
kearney could go either way, all i will say is chris thorman was awesome(maybe the best player on the pitch) in jjbs testimonial in preseason 09 when fc beat leeds and we all know how his season went?
Quote ="Ewwenorfolk"So Menzies & Lynch aren't leaders at all then? Plus Orford is a proven good captain, adn L'Estrange seems like one of the characters who is always spurring the team on'"
the players i mentioned, deacs, morro, newton, burgess. deacs he was the bulls, its heart, its captain its leader on and off the field. morro and newton your pack leaders and burgess your best player and hope for the future. dont disrespect them by saying orford and L'Estrange who have been off the plane a month warrent a mention in filling that void, that will take time. even menzies despite his true professionalism has only been here 12 months and is really only here for his last pay day.
lynch and langley are still around i will give you that and the return of reardon is a plus.
Quote ="Ewwenorfolk" And if we hadn't have let Burgess go, I doubt he'd have played like he did in the 4 nations for us, if he doesn't want to be here, plus you had the same thing with Ellis and didn't seem to suffer. '"
ellis wasnt the same thing at all! ellis wasnt leeds best player, he was one of many awesome players, imo burgess was your best by a mile. leeds were back to back champs when gaz left and was out of contract. burgess left early from a team that couldnt make the playoffs, thats the difference.
like ive said mate you could have a massive season, i dont think its a rosey as a few of you think but probably not as bad as i think! as seen as i recon you could well miss the play offs again. you said yourself on the bulls board that there are 9 teams that could finish anywhere from 3rd to 11th.
its gonna be a cracking season thats for sure!
sorry to all you robins for derailing your thread!
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| Quote ="sgtwilko"ok my old mucker where do i start?
ok lets look at the journey men, add to your list reardon, nero, worrincy, godwin
so thats reardon, nero, worrincy, godwin, Sheriffe, Platt, Sykes, Sculthorpe. that more than a few holes in your squad plugged imho.'"
What's your definition of a journeyman? Of those players listed I think Nero, Worrincy, Sykes, and Reardon have only played for 2 clubs including the Bulls.
TBH I think only Sculthorpe can be given that tag. The rest may not be top quality but they're not "journeymen" as they've not been through a host of clubs.
Quote ="sgtwilko"kearney could go either way, all i will say is chris thorman was awesome(maybe the best player on the pitch) in jjbs testimonial in preseason 09 when fc beat leeds and we all know how his season went?'"
You could apply the same thinking to Brett Delaney or any player at this stage of the season.
Quote ="sgtwilko"the players i mentioned, deacs, morro, newton, burgess. deacs he was the bulls, its heart, its captain its leader on and off the field. morro and newton your pack leaders and burgess your best player and hope for the future. dont disrespect them by saying orford and L'Estrange who have been off the plane a month warrent a mention in filling that void, that will take time. even menzies despite his true professionalism has only been here 12 months and is really only here for his last pay day.'"
Deacon was past his best in the past couple of seasons. He's not been the player he was. Hence the need for change.
Morrison was barely on the field for us last year and Newton was very inconsistent being good or awful sometimes in the same game!
Orford's going to be better than the late model Deacon. Anybody in their right mind can see that.
Hall on the field is going to be better than an injury prone Morrison and by all accounts Newton's attitude won't be missed. Having L'Strange as a dummy half who's played with Orford before should help things gel.
As for Burgess, on paper he may have been our best player but he rarely showed it for us last season.
Things may take time to gel but given the way we played at times last year you'd have thought that we were playing with a completely new sett of halfbacks and hooker then too!
Quote ="sgtwilko"lynch and langley are still around i will give you that and the return of reardon is a plus.'"
You said Reardon was a journeyman a few lines above? Make your mind up!
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| Quote ="sgtwilko"ok my old mucker where do i start?
ok lets look at the journey men, add to your list reardon, nero, worrincy, godwin
so thats reardon, nero, worrincy, godwin, Sheriffe, Platt, Sykes, Sculthorpe. that more than a few holes in your squad plugged imho.
kearney could go either way, all i will say is chris thorman was awesome(maybe the best player on the pitch) in jjbs testimonial in preseason 09 when fc beat leeds and we all know how his season went?
the players i mentioned, deacs, morro, newton, burgess. deacs he was the bulls, its heart, its captain its leader on and off the field. morro and newton your pack leaders and burgess your best player and hope for the future. dont disrespect them by saying orford and L'Estrange who have been off the plane a month warrent a mention in filling that void, that will take time. even menzies despite his true professionalism has only been here 12 months and is really only here for his last pay day.
lynch and langley are still around i will give you that and the return of reardon is a plus.
ellis wasnt the same thing at all! ellis wasnt leeds best player, he was one of many awesome players, imo burgess was your best by a mile. leeds were back to back champs when gaz left and was out of contract. burgess left early from a team that couldnt make the playoffs, thats the difference.
like ive said mate you could have a massive season, i dont think its a rosey as a few of you think but probably not as bad as i think! as seen as i recon you could well miss the play offs again. you said yourself on the bulls board that there are 9 teams that could finish anywhere from 3rd to 11th.
its gonna be a cracking season thats for sure!
sorry to all you robins for derailing your thread!'"
Reardon and Nero aren't journeymen imo. And you've even stated that the return of Reardon is a plus.
Newton wasn't the heart and soul of our front row, never mind our pack or our team, he was lazy for the majority of last season, not the typical charecteristics of a leader imo.
I don't think we'll be top four, top eight is a must imo so we don't get accustomed to being a club out of the play-offs and I think we can manage top 6 if our team can gel well.
I suppose you are right about Burgess, but you know as well as I do there would have been no point in keeping him if he didn't want to stay, so we got the clause (which was more important than the 250k imo) to hopefully get him back a better player.
I don't think that it's as rosey as many think, but I'm going to keep my feet on the ground, no we won't top the league or win every game, but I hope we see a bit more passion and pride and a lot better rugby league from our new playmakers.
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| [uRovers Line Up[/u
Shaun Briscoe
Peter Fox
Kris Welham
Michael Ratu
Liam Colbon
Paul Cooke
Michael Dobson
Rhys Lovegrove
Scott Murrell
Scott Wheeldon
Clint Newton
Matt Cook
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[uBench[/u
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| Quote ="tiger2000"[uRovers Line Up[/u
Shaun Briscoe
Peter Fox
Kris Welham
Michael Ratu
Liam Colbon
Paul Cooke
Michael Dobson
Rhys Lovegrove
Scott Murrell
Scott Wheeldon
Clint Newton
Matt Cook
Ben Galea
[uBench[/u
Chaz I'Anson
Michael Vella
Josh Hodgson
Liam Watts
Ben Cockayne'"
Another fringe/reserves team then.
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| Rovers go 6-0 up after 13 mins with a Cooke try (boo!) and Dobson goal.
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| Quote ="Neil HFC"Another fringe/reserves team then.
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They're obviously resting senior players Mills and Fisher so they're ready for Salford.
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| Bradford equalise after Rovers conceding four successive penalties. 6-6.
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| Bulls now 12-6 up, Galea off after two mins, susp ankle injury.
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| Quote ="old frightful"Bulls now 12-6 up, Galea off after two mins, susp ankle injury.'"
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| Quote ="old frightful"Bulls now 12-6 up, Galea off after two mins, susp ankle injury.'"
Part of the main reason I think this game is silly to have now, should that injury be anything that takes more than 10 days to recover KR will lose an experienced senior player for the start of the season all because of an ill timed friendly.
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| Quote ="tiger2000"
Galea off with ankle injury.'"
Ar5e, could be costly for both sides this, Bradford lose Kopzcak and Reardon.
I'Anson scores, Dobson goals, 12-12.
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| Quote ="TKOAH"18 - 12 Bulls ..... [uWhitehead[/u try, Sykes goal.'"
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"Who?'"
No idea ..... Galea as knee strain according to Chris Park, not too serious.
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"Quote ="TKOAH"18 - 12 Bulls ..... [uWhitehead[/u try, Sykes goal.'"
Who?'"
Ellliott whitehead is a good young player..except it wasnt him who scored it was james donaldson.
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Ellliott whitehead is a good young player..except it wasnt him who scored it was [ujames donaldson[/u.'"
An 18 year old with no SL starts to his name. Sorry, I though Bradford had put a full strength team out. Sounds like Bradford's patched up team did pretty well.
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"An 18 year old with no SL starts to his name. Sorry, I though Bradford had put a full strength team out.
Sounds like Bradford's patched up team did pretty well.'" whithout a doubt your a first class divvy
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| Quote ="percy la blanc"whithout a doubt your a first class divvy'"
4 errors in that:
- Capital "W" needed
- It's "without", not "whithout"
- It's "you're", not "your"
- And you need a full stop, assuming that you've finished.
Don't get mad with me just because Rovers are 0 from 8.
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