Im the eternal optimist mate, but even now im starting to think that we are a few players light both in numbers and class, im also baffled with some of Browns selections.

We need to be at least getting points at home, the last 2 defeats to spurs and blackburn we desperately needed to win or draw at the very least.

With the worst current form in the league and a lack of goal scorers things are looking grim.

The only plus side is that they are not in a relegation spot and other teams have to catch up.

And there doing that with success now. Stoke 2-0 down last couple of mins come back and draw 2-2.

Can see City finishing 2nd bottom at this rate.

Brown's public humiliation on the pitch against Man City seems to have backfired as the players don't seem to have confidence in him anymore, coupled with the last second defeat against Villa and over christmas that was the period where the season has gone downhill.

It really will take something big to even gain a win. Fulham away on Wednesday isn't exactly the easiest oppurtunity to rectify things.

Went today on a freebie.

City really are up against it now...

I know one who spent over £250 buying about 20 replica shirts from previous seasons, from some guy off e bay!. Sadcase

If the reports on the Telegraph site are to be believed then it looks like Geovanii will never play for City again?. www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/footba ... vanni.html

If the reports on the Telegraph site are to be believed then it looks like Geovanii will never play for City again?. www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/footba ... vanni.html

Quote ="tiger2000"If the reports on the Telegraph site are to be believed then it looks like Geovanii will never play for City again?. www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/footba ... vanni.html'" apart from the bit where Brown says he still has a role in preventing the freefall?

Quote ="tiger2000"If the reports on the Telegraph site are to be believed then it looks like Geovanii will never play for City again?. www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/footba ... vanni.html'" apart from the bit where Brown says he still has a role in preventing the freefall?

Quote ="tiger2000"If the reports on the Telegraph site are to be believed then it looks like Geovanii will never play for City again?. www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/footba ... vanni.html'" I`m afraid they are true mate, the video of his press conference is on HDM site His comments are an utter disgrace, he may well have worked wonders the last couple of years but after this plus recent shambolic performances including some mind boggling team selections, I cannot see a way back for him now!

Quote ="tiger2000"If the reports on the Telegraph site are to be believed then it looks like Geovanii will never play for City again?. www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/footba ... vanni.html'" I`m afraid they are true mate, the video of his press conference is on HDM site His comments are an utter disgrace, he may well have worked wonders the last couple of years but after this plus recent shambolic performances including some mind boggling team selections, I cannot see a way back for him now!

"He will never do that to me again," Brown said. "I'm the manager. I haven't spoken to him yet. He's getting drugs-tested so hopefully they will find that positive."

Dear oh dear. Seems the higher echlon's of our soccer club all seem determined to extend their feet so firmly into it their socks have no toes left.

It couldn't happen to a nicer old duffen.

Classic.

Big game Weds night then!

Phil Brown publically endorsing drug use - you couldnt make it up

For the past couple of months, Mendy and Turner are the only two players to have shown any class and skill. I like Cousin but can't understand why he wasn't played from the start. Brown will live and die by these decisions, here's hoping they stay up.

It certainly had the journos amused .

Usually when it is stated that there is a place for a player after a spat - it often means he's on his way.

Brown is certainly under pressure now , a quick trip to the tanning booth is probably the order of the day to increase his feelgood factor.

And Mendy cant seem to get a game regulalry.

Barmby too keeps playing his socks off and cant get near a starting place normally. Browny keeps making some odd calls currently.

Brown is odd in my opinion. He completely lost the plot on Boxing day at Man City keeping the players on the pitch like a bunch of school kids. Funny old thing we haven't won since before that game. Some of his tactical decisions are strange and his tactical substitutions barking mad. IMO he's lost the dressing room and the players don't respect him anymore. Really hope I'm wrong of course and that we manage to stay up, just can't see it happening at the moment that's all.

Needed that victory! Phew!!

manuchio in the 93rd minute

SIMPLEZ

Really don't mind looking a fool if it means we stay up. I'm still very sceptical about Brown though. Awesome result tonight so fair play.

Looks like that could be the goal to keep City in the Premiership. Browns job will be safe and Mr Duffen can take his plans forward.

Talk about leaving late!

Great to see them get the 3 points though!

Not safe yet, a number of teams around them also picked up points in the last couple of days. They've got some tough games left. Still have to play Liv, Villa and Man U so likely to be no points there. Bolton and Wigan away are gonna be tough to get points from. Next weekend is a big one, Newcastle at home, beat them and they may well be safe, loose and they're back in the cack. After that they've got Boro, Sund and Stoke to play, need to target these games.