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| Nice post, the bloke above, and I honestly, from a sporting point of view, hope Leigh get promoted.
I do not think I have ever been so angry watching my club in my life.
Before I speak about Rover's, it's only correct to congratulate Leigh. They were the better side from about minute twenty two until the end.
Leigh controlled and bossed the game, they stood up for each other, realised where they were going wrong and fixed it. Leigh dropped a lot of ball in the first half hour, then clearly had a word about it at half time and suitably changed their tac tics.
Rovers.
This is professional Rugby League, right?
This is what I pay for?
What I've been paying for, since I was six years old and my Mum and Dad made the terrible decision to take me to Old CP?
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| It's ok, Ste100Centurions .....We know you haven't come here to gloat.
What you say about "well run clubs" is true, unfortunately we are not a well run club ......We are run by a petulant child who calls fans who question his decisions and "speak the loudest" as "s" and he is constantly issuing statements that put the blame for our demise on others (30% was an awful pre-season, 40% is on-going injuries to a large number of players, 20% historic poor long term recruitment, 10% bad luck) and puts none of the blame on himself and the decisions he has made ......Even though he stood by and watched us sign championship standard players and actually thought that they would somehow turn out to be great Super League players. Even before a ball was kicked this season every Hull KR fan stated that we will be in the Qualifiers this year and fighting for our survival, but yet our petulant child somehow thought otherwise ......It seems that our petulant child relishes his privileged position and somewhat loves his privileged position more than he does our club ......I say this because we all know that he is a multi-millionaire .......He has the finances to permanently take Hull KR out of the red and make Hull KR a top Super League team. He is a multi-millionaire that actually had the finances to buy out his nearest competitor and render them obsolete ......I know that I don't have the right to question how a multi-millionaire spends his money, but when that multi-millionaire states that he is an avid fan, takes a loan from another multi-millionaire (Allam) to rescue his club from financial bankruptcy, state that those fans who question his authority "don't have the balls to do it" knowing full well that they don't have the millions to do it, all I can conclude is that our Chairman loves power and wealth more than he does his "beloved" Hull KR ......If you disagree and feel as though I am being harsh towards our petulant child, then ask yourself, how much would you pump into our club if you were a multi-millionaire?
Hats off to Adam Pearson! .....He is a business man who has pumped millions into Hull FC and he is now starting to witness his return ........Well done that man!
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| Quote ="Zook Ema's Hose"Whilst there is understandable panic in the fan-base the strong likelihood is we won't be going down whether we end up in the MPG or not.
All our difficulties and I mean all of them stem from poor management. Poor coaching appointments. Pants-down recruitment. Ineffective youth set-up. A B.O.D. so obsessed with the 80s it's a joke.
The malaise of the club short term is a reflection of mainly the recruitment whether props that don't run their weight and steal a living or halves that just don't play. But on the halves Kelly came with a one season wonder then take the piiss tag and Campese was shot. Who TF did the due diligence then? We get what we deserve. Campese BTW is by Webbo's admission fit to play. Do the maths on why he's not playing.
Long term- who do we expect to attract? Addy and Scruton says it all. With John Keable going and taking onward investment with him being linked with players from teams not even in the Middle 8s should be sounding alarm bells. Who this mystery coach is if he even exists (and it's a question) is anyone's guess but we are told we will be very pleased. Like Peacock said we would not be in the qualifiers. I would ask for the board to set out with the honesty Neil likes to bang on about the mistakes made but it would yet again be littered with references to Hull FC like his blog.
=#40BF40After all is said and done we'll be in super league again next year but still stuck with average or injury prone players on big long term deals we can't afford to pay them out of so expect another long and painful season same as this one.'"
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| Quote ="Geoff Tipps"It's ok, Ste100Centurions .....We know you haven't come here to gloat.
What you say about "well run clubs" is true, unfortunately we are not a well run club ......We are run by a petulant child who calls fans who question his decisions and "speak the loudest" as "s" and he is constantly issuing statements that put the blame for our demise on others (30% was an awful pre-season, 40% is on-going injuries to a large number of players, 20% historic poor long term recruitment, 10% bad luck) and puts none of the blame on himself and the decisions he has made ......Even though he stood by and watched us sign championship standard players and actually thought that they would somehow turn out to be great Super League players. Even before a ball was kicked this season every Hull KR fan stated that we will be in the Qualifiers this year and fighting for our survival, but yet our petulant child somehow thought otherwise ......It seems that our petulant child relishes his privileged position and somewhat loves his privileged position more than he does our club ......I say this because we all know that he is a multi-millionaire .......He has the finances to permanently take Hull KR out of the red and make Hull KR a top Super League team. He is a multi-millionaire that actually had the finances to buy out his nearest competitor and render them obsolete ......I know that I don't have the right to question how a multi-millionaire spends his money, but when that multi-millionaire states that he is an avid fan, takes a loan from another multi-millionaire (Allam) to rescue his club from financial bankruptcy, state that those fans who question his authority "don't have the balls to do it" knowing full well that they don't have the millions to do it, all I can conclude is that our Chairman loves power and wealth more than he does his "beloved" Hull KR ......If you disagree and feel as though I am being harsh towards our petulant child, then ask yourself, how much would you pump into our club if you were a multi-millionaire?
Hats off to Adam Pearson! .....He is a business man who has pumped millions into Hull FC and he is now starting to witness his return ........Well done that man!'"
Couldn't agree more GT, people I know fairly well joined the BOD not too long ago with a view to injecting some cash, and promptly left due to the way the club is run from the top. It's very much his train set and everyone else has to follow suit. In some respects I can totally understand, he pumped A LOT of his own money and effort into the club when no one else was interested and has taken us much further than I could ever have imagined 15years - for that I will always be grateful. Really not sure of where we go from here, except get prepped for trips to Oldham / Batley etc.
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| Quote ="Geoff Tipps"It's ok, Ste100Centurions .....We know you haven't come here to gloat.
What you say about "well run clubs" is true, unfortunately we are not a well run club ......We are run by a petulant child who calls fans who question his decisions and "speak the loudest" as "s" and he is constantly issuing statements that put the blame for our demise on others (30% was an awful pre-season, 40% is on-going injuries to a large number of players, 20% historic poor long term recruitment, 10% bad luck) and puts none of the blame on himself and the decisions he has made ......Even though he stood by and watched us sign championship standard players and actually thought that they would somehow turn out to be great Super League players. Even before a ball was kicked this season every Hull KR fan stated that we will be in the Qualifiers this year and fighting for our survival, but yet our petulant child somehow thought otherwise ......It seems that our petulant child relishes his privileged position and somewhat loves his privileged position more than he does our club ......I say this because we all know that he is a multi-millionaire .......He has the finances to permanently take Hull KR out of the red and make Hull KR a top Super League team. He is a multi-millionaire that actually had the finances to buy out his nearest competitor and render them obsolete ......I know that I don't have the right to question how a multi-millionaire spends his money, but when that multi-millionaire states that he is an avid fan, takes a loan from another multi-millionaire (Allam) to rescue his club from financial bankruptcy, state that those fans who question his authority "don't have the balls to do it" knowing full well that they don't have the millions to do it, all I can conclude is that our Chairman loves power and wealth more than he does his "beloved" Hull KR ......If you disagree and feel as though I am being harsh towards our petulant child, then ask yourself, how much would you pump into our club if you were a multi-millionaire?
Hats off to Adam Pearson! .....He is a business man who has pumped millions into Hull FC and he is now starting to witness his return ........Well done that man!'"
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| Quote ="bob bob bobin robin"Couldn't agree more GT, people I know fairly well joined the BOD not too long ago with a view to injecting some cash, and promptly left due to the way the club is run from the top. It's very much his train set and everyone else has to follow suit. In some respects I can totally understand, he pumped A LOT of his own money and effort into the club when no one else was interested and has taken us much further than I could ever have imagined 15years - for that I will always be grateful. Really not sure of where we go from here, except get prepped for trips to Oldham / Batley etc.'"
No one can ever question his commitment to the club or financial contribution but like any regime that is in place for a long time the my way or the highway mentality increases along with ego. RC promoted The big Listen in January supposedly to take views of fans but in reality to try and placate us after another derby hammering. The update was that the board would discuss it in April..
The club is in turmoil. Watching the game back they said the playing group had told Kelly what they thought of him. The return from Australia line also looks shaky - this was known earlier in the week yet the club rushes out a statement an hour before kick-off? No coach sorted and quality recruitment made nigh on impossible due to long contracts given to average players. Coach stating our captain is fit to play but not playing. Awaits another blog telling supporters to pipe down. We won one play-off game six years ago after all what a fantastic era.
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| Quote ="Geoff Tipps"It's ok, Ste100Centurions .....We know you haven't come here to gloat.
What you say about "well run clubs" is true, unfortunately we are not a well run club ......We are run by a petulant child who calls fans who question his decisions and "speak the loudest" as "s" and he is constantly issuing statements that put the blame for our demise on others (30% was an awful pre-season, 40% is on-going injuries to a large number of players, 20% historic poor long term recruitment, 10% bad luck) and puts none of the blame on himself and the decisions he has made ......Even though he stood by and watched us sign championship standard players and actually thought that they would somehow turn out to be great Super League players. Even before a ball was kicked this season every Hull KR fan stated that we will be in the Qualifiers this year and fighting for our survival, but yet our petulant child somehow thought otherwise ......It seems that our petulant child relishes his privileged position and somewhat loves his privileged position more than he does our club ......I say this because we all know that he is a multi-millionaire .......He has the finances to permanently take Hull KR out of the red and make Hull KR a top Super League team. He is a multi-millionaire that actually had the finances to buy out his nearest competitor and render them obsolete ......I know that I don't have the right to question how a multi-millionaire spends his money, but when that multi-millionaire states that he is an avid fan, takes a loan from another multi-millionaire (Allam) to rescue his club from financial bankruptcy, state that those fans who question his authority "don't have the balls to do it" knowing full well that they don't have the millions to do it, all I can conclude is that our Chairman loves power and wealth more than he does his "beloved" Hull KR ......If you disagree and feel as though I am being harsh towards our petulant child, then ask yourself, how much would you pump into our club if you were a multi-millionaire?
Hats off to Adam Pearson! .....He is a business man who has pumped millions into Hull FC and he is now starting to witness his return ........Well done that man!'"
Well now you have got that out of your system 1 you are wrong to call him a child 2 how old are you 3 have you been their when we was in danger of having to merge with hull and not even had any hope of watching rovers in any league he got us to were we are and I hope he gets us back again yes he has made mistakes we are all guilty of that I like james webster but he is not a coach of a super league club
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| Everything just smacks of doing it on the cheap at Rovers recently. I dont know if it's Hudgell not wanting to continue throwing good money after bad, or other investment disappearing, or simply the new stand not bringing in the expected income. It just kind of seems like if there's a way to save money, you are doing it.
Cheap recruitment, Webster in charge, merging the 19's (Hull are guilty of this too of course) not running a reserves team. All things that cut costs, but are having a negative impact on the field.
You can blame as many things as like, but this is professional sport, and if you survive this season (I still think you will ffiw) the only way you are going to take any significant steps forward is by serious investment in the playing and coaching teams, because currently they are just not good enough. If Hudgell can't do this then he needs to start being honest instead of blaming everything and everyone he can think of.
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| Whoever is to blame, there is definitely someone (more than one person) repeatedly making poor decisions at your club. I'd be surprised if peacock worked in an environment where decisions were being made that he didn't agree with so have to believe he is at least part of the problem and obviously hudge must have a big hand in things. Whoever it was appointed webster either didn't care whether you got relegated or was so blinkered they thought you'd stay up irrespective of who was coaching you. As for a new coach, here you are 4 weeks away from the end of the season and you're still not sure who will be coaching you next year. Surely there were plenty of coaches around when you sacked chester who could have done a good job without running the risk of being relegated?
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| Should Peacock be slating fans on social media?
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Jamie Peacock MBE @JamiePeacock10
Sunday morning read for the keyboard warriors.
Take note and then climb back behind the comfort of your screens.'"
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| Quote ="Mr. Zucchini Head"Everything just smacks of doing it on the cheap at Rovers recently. I dont know if it's Hudgell not wanting to continue throwing good money after bad, or other investment disappearing, or simply the new stand not bringing in the expected income. It just kind of seems like if there's a way to save money, you are doing it.
Cheap recruitment, Webster in charge, merging the 19's (Hull are guilty of this too of course) not running a reserves team. All things that cut costs, but are having a negative impact on the field.
You can blame as many things as like, but this is professional sport, and if you survive this season (I still think you will ffiw) the only way you are going to take any significant steps forward is by serious investment in the playing and coaching teams, because currently they are just not good enough. If Hudgell can't do this then he needs to start being honest instead of blaming everything and everyone he can think of.'"
Having achieved the goals of getting up, staying up and becoming competitive, the club lost momentum/direction. With hindsight, the first warning sign should maybe have been the Willie Mason saga. 'Building for the future' always made me nervous - who, as a player in their prime, wants to be involved with a club that is aiming to be successful not now but later? The same worry returned with Peacock's downer on short-termism, as if it is an alternative to rather than a pre-requisite for long-term success. It might still all work out, And I obviously hope it does, but it has been an enormous gamble.
On the spending less/allocating resource poorly thing, it is hard to tell. When Rob Crossland talks about the big-spending vanity of our early years in SL, or Peacock refers to 'deals and deals', the implication as I read it is that we used to spend more, and that other clubs spend more now. But then, we're frequently told that we're at the cap. While the complexities of the cap mean that both could be true, it is an unclear message. Possibly deliberately so, to protect people who made poor decisions in good faith, while also seeking to pre-empt 'chequebook out' calls. The problem is that it creates confusion, and when we're losing, a lot of 'wtf is going on?' type questions.
All that has been compounded this year, by starting the season badly undercooked, and going for a smaller more mobile team that 'likes to play footie', when other clubs are getting much better results from more pragmatic approaches.
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| Peacock does seem to be the problem. Did say this month's ago. Anyway he's got a 5 year plan so don't worry . As for kelly will be be here next year ?
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"Whoever is to blame, there is definitely someone (more than one person) repeatedly making poor decisions at your club. I'd be surprised if peacock worked in an environment where decisions were being made that he didn't agree with so have to believe he is at least part of the problem and obviously hudge must have a big hand in things. Whoever it was appointed webster either didn't care whether you got relegated or was so blinkered they thought you'd stay up irrespective of who was coaching you. As for a new coach, =#4080FFhere you are 4 weeks away from the end of the season and you're still not sure who will be coaching you next year. Surely there were plenty of coaches around when you sacked chester who could have done a good job without running the risk of being relegated?'"
Leigh's coach resigned "mysteriously" ten days before the start of this season. I think everyone would agree that his "hastily" appointed replacement has done okay given the circumstances.
I have to say their has been a sea change in mood on this forum from the bullishness of last week. It is ONE result, KRers.
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| Quote ="Mild Rover"Having achieved the goals of getting up, staying up and becoming competitive, the club lost momentum/direction. With hindsight, the first warning sign should maybe have been the Willie Mason saga. 'Building for the future' always made me nervous - who, as a player in their prime, wants to be involved with a club that is aiming to be successful not now but later? The same worry returned with Peacock's downer on short-termism, as if it is an alternative to rather than a pre-requisite for long-term success. It might still all work out, And I obviously hope it does, but it has been an enormous gamble.
On the spending less/allocating resource poorly thing, it is hard to tell. When Rob Crossland talks about the big-spending vanity of our early years in SL, or Peacock refers to 'deals and deals', the implication as I read it is that we used to spend more, and that other clubs spend more now. But then, we're frequently told that we're at the cap. While the complexities of the cap mean that both could be true, it is an unclear message. Possibly deliberately so, to protect people who made poor decisions in good faith, while also seeking to pre-empt 'chequebook out' calls. The problem is that it creates confusion, and when we're losing, a lot of 'wtf is going on?' type questions.
All that has been compounded this year, by starting the season badly undercooked, and going for a smaller more mobile team that 'likes to play footie', when other clubs are getting much better results from more pragmatic approaches.'"
Was it crossland who was telling anyone who would listen that Hull's big lumbering pack would be in trouble once the pitches dried out and the weather warmed up whilst rovers would be running rings around them? Who was it who wouldn;t listen to Paul Hatton's advice and binned him instead? Who thought it a good idea to rely on signing leeds cast offs and running a small, lightweight squad? If people with so little knowledge of the game are making decisions at your club then no wonder your in such a mess
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| Quote ="ComeOnYouUll"Should Peacock be slating fans on social media?
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As an INTJ personality, I'm always going to prefer something from Machiavelli. There was a reason that Jim Hacker reacted the way he did to suggestions from Sir Humphrey that he was being brave. But we're a narrow demographic.
I've got great respect for Peacock, and it would be a nicer world if optimism and doing the right the thing were more often more than just their own reward. However, after accounting for inherent advantage and blind good fortune, success is usually built on cautious scepticism, IMO. Or timid cynicism, as it might seem to some people. That's the difference between being in the arena as a player, and being a director off-stage. You can always dress it up as something else though - like Theodore Roosevelt did with that uplifting quote. Great statesman, in large part because he was a smart politician.
All that said, it might work out yet for Peacock, and he has to be true to himself.
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| Quote ="hull2524"Peacock does seem to be the problem. Did say this month's ago. Anyway he's got a 5 year plan so don't worry . As for kelly will be be here next year ?'"
The problems predate Peacock. Whether he's doing a good job remedying the situation is still unclear. The suggestion that he had very limited room for manoeuvre this year, is entirely plausible.
His view that relegation was very unlikely could be seen as ebullient optimism, or naive.
His reluctance to sign loan players could be seen to be a determined effort to change our culture, or pointless obstinancy.
His eagerness to run an under-23s could help build a sounder foundation, or could just be following fashion.
It could easily go either way. Look back on the match thread for your cup final win - at after 60 pointless minutes for Hull, it was all stuff about 'rabbits in headlights', and the like, with a 'here we go again' vibe. 20 minutes later, they're heroes.
Win and you're a genius, lose and you're an idiot is what it comes down to.
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| Fair post and some good points
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| Quote ="cravenpark1"Well now you have got that out of your system 1 you are wrong to call him a child 2 how old are you 3 have you been their when we was in danger of having to merge with hull and not even had any hope of watching rovers in any league he got us to were we are and I hope he gets us back again yes he has made mistakes we are all guilty of that I like james webster but he is not a coach of a super league club'"
Well, now that you have created a number of questions to my original post I shall answer them.
1 you are wrong to call him a child .......Really? ......Our Chairman has publicly called fans who are disgruntled and "speak the loudest" s .......How many of the Chairmen of the top Rugby League clubs have acted in such a manner? .......In fact, how many of the Chairmen of any top sports club has turned on the fans that "speak the loudest" and called them s? .......He also publicly expressed that those fans who speak the loudest "don't have the balls to do it" knowing full well that the average fan isn't a multi-millionaire .......I wonder how many of the average fans who were hypothetically multi-millionaires would "have the balls to do it"? .......My guess is that the majority of them would have the balls to do it, but because they are not financially in the situation to do it, all they can do is vent their frustration ........And because our Chairman knows this, he is in a privileged position to say such things ........The fact that he calls fans who speak the loudest "s" and the fact that he knows those who he accuses of not having "the balls to do it" aren't financially rich enough to do it shows that he is acting like a petulant child ........He is acting like the child who owns the ball and says "This is my ball, so if you don't like the way we are playing together, I will take my ball away and none of us will be able to enjoy playing together" .......His comments regarding "s" and "the balls to do it" are evident that he has a child mentality.
2 how old are you .......I'm 57, how old are you? .......I really don't understand this line of questioning and your point ........What are you trying to prove by asking such a question?
3 have you been their when we was in danger of having to merge with hull and not even had any hope of watching rovers in any league .......Yes, I volunteered my time and worked for free during this time .......Did you? .......Did you volunteer your time and actually spend your own money buying little things like wood, nails, paint and whatever was needed to maintain the stadium? .......I did, did you? ......Or are you one of those fans who acknowledge the hard work that people did during the dark times to keep our club afloat and have convinced themselves that because you acknowledge the hard work this somehow makes you one of those who actually gave up their time and money to keep our club alive? .......Did you actually do something when we were "in danger" or do you just associate yourself with those who did? .......Did you or do you just talk like you did?
And as for Hudgell .....Yes, he rescued us .......But wouldn't you if you were a multi-millionaire? .......A family of five who are season pass holders give up approximately £1000 a year out of their annual income to support Hull KR ......And given that the majority of Hull KR supporters are earning somewhere around the minimum wage, I wonder what percentage of the average Hull KR supporter's wage is pumped into Hull KR when compared to the wage of our illustrious Chairman?
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| Quote ="Sheldon"You wouldn't have been in sl is it wasn't for him.'"
And we may be going back to the Championship because of him ......So what's your point?
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| Quote ="Geoff Tipps"Well, now that you have created a number of questions to my original post I shall answer them.
1 you are wrong to call him a child .......Really? ......Our Chairman has publicly called fans who are disgruntled and "speak the loudest" s .......How many of the Chairmen of the top Rugby League clubs have acted in such a manner? .......In fact, how many of the Chairmen of any top sports club has turned on the fans that "speak the loudest" and called them s? .......He also publicly expressed that those fans who speak the loudest "don't have the balls to do it" knowing full well that the average fan isn't a multi-millionaire .......I wonder how many of the average fans who were hypothetically multi-millionaires would "have the balls to do it"? .......My guess is that the majority of them would have the balls to do it, but because they are not financially in the situation to do it, all they can do is vent their frustration ........And because our Chairman knows this, he is in a privileged position to say such things ........The fact that he calls fans who speak the loudest "s" and the fact that he knows those who he accuses of not having "the balls to do it" aren't financially rich enough to do it shows that he is acting like a petulant child ........He is acting like the child who owns the ball and says "This is my ball, so if you don't like the way we are playing together, I will take my ball away and none of us will be able to enjoy playing together" .......His comments regarding "s" and "the balls to do it" are evident that he has a child mentality.
2 how old are you .......I'm 57, how old are you? .......I really don't understand this line of questioning and your point ........What are you trying to prove by asking such a question?
3 have you been their when we was in danger of having to merge with hull and not even had any hope of watching rovers in any league .......Yes, I volunteered my time and worked for free during this time .......Did you? .......Did you volunteer your time and actually spend your own money buying little things like wood, nails, paint and whatever was needed to maintain the stadium? .......I did, did you? ......Or are you one of those fans who acknowledge the hard work that people did during the dark times to keep our club afloat and have convinced themselves that because you acknowledge the hard work this somehow makes you one of those who actually gave up their time and money to keep our club alive? .......Did you actually do something when we were "in danger" or do you just associate yourself with those who did? .......Did you or do you just talk like you did?
And as for Hudgell .....Yes, he rescued us .......But wouldn't you if you were a multi-millionaire? .......A family of five who are season pass holders give up approximately £1000 a year out of their annual income to support Hull KR ......And given that the majority of Hull KR supporters are earning somewhere around the minimum wage, I wonder what percentage of the average Hull KR supporter's wage is pumped into Hull KR when compared to the wage of our illustrious Chairman?'"
Can't say I disagree with a lot what you've said, not keen on the way it was said but the last paragraph is very true, a lot of people spend money they can ill afford to support the club and as such deserve a voice when things are looking as bad as they are.
The one downside to all you are saying is what are the other options, if he does take his ball home then who steps in?
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| Quote ="hull2524"Peacock does seem to be the problem. Did say this month's ago. Anyway he's got a 5 year plan so don't worry . As for kelly will be be here next year ?'"
I'm not sure he is to be honest.
He joined after last season (November-ish?), so hasn't quite been in his post for a year yet. The time he joined would've been too late to secure any decent signings for 2016, as well as having minimal cap space to play with. He had to plug some squad gaps, cheaply. I think a year is way too early to write him off.
Unfortunately for him, what he inherited was a pile of cack. Massive apparent issues with the management of the cap, and some really poor players, all signed up and contracted for 2016 & beyond.
It was similar for Motu & Radford. We had two years of re-building following the gross mismanagement of the Gentle/McRae years.
I doubt Peacock has much say in the new head coach either, that'll be Hudgell's call. Hudgell's the problem. His whole mantra is about beating Hull, looking at what Hull are doing through envious eyes - we saw evidence of this in his 10-point letter to fans a few weeks ago.
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| Quote ="Geoff Tipps"Well, now that you have created a number of questions to my original post I shall answer them.
1 you are wrong to call him a child .......Really? ......Our Chairman has publicly called fans who are disgruntled and "speak the loudest" s .......How many of the Chairmen of the top Rugby League clubs have acted in such a manner? .......In fact, how many of the Chairmen of any top sports club has turned on the fans that "speak the loudest" and called them s? .......He also publicly expressed that those fans who speak the loudest "don't have the balls to do it" knowing full well that the average fan isn't a multi-millionaire .......I wonder how many of the average fans who were hypothetically multi-millionaires would "have the balls to do it"? .......My guess is that the majority of them would have the balls to do it, but because they are not financially in the situation to do it, all they can do is vent their frustration ........And because our Chairman knows this, he is in a privileged position to say such things ........The fact that he calls fans who speak the loudest "s" and the fact that he knows those who he accuses of not having "the balls to do it" aren't financially rich enough to do it shows that he is acting like a petulant child ........He is acting like the child who owns the ball and says "This is my ball, so if you don't like the way we are playing together, I will take my ball away and none of us will be able to enjoy playing together" .......His comments regarding "s" and "the balls to do it" are evident that he has a child mentality.
2 how old are you .......I'm 57, how old are you? .......I really don't understand this line of questioning and your point ........What are you trying to prove by asking such a question?
3 have you been their when we was in danger of having to merge with hull and not even had any hope of watching rovers in any league .......Yes, I volunteered my time and worked for free during this time .......Did you? .......Did you volunteer your time and actually spend your own money buying little things like wood, nails, paint and whatever was needed to maintain the stadium? .......I did, did you? ......Or are you one of those fans who acknowledge the hard work that people did during the dark times to keep our club afloat and have convinced themselves that because you acknowledge the hard work this somehow makes you one of those who actually gave up their time and money to keep our club alive? .......Did you actually do something when we were "in danger" or do you just associate yourself with those who did? .......Did you or do you just talk like you did?
And as for Hudgell .....Yes, he rescued us .......But wouldn't you if you were a multi-millionaire? .......A family of five who are season pass holders give up approximately £1000 a year out of their annual income to support Hull KR ......And given that the majority of Hull KR supporters are earning somewhere around the minimum wage, I wonder what percentage of the average Hull KR supporter's wage is pumped into Hull KR when compared to the wage of our illustrious Chairman?'"
Thanks for your comments My age is 70 and when you say about the bad time I bought shares in rovers which i still have to help out we went to every game home and away for 20 yrs till my work put us on permanent shifts and when we went I took my family has well wife and 4 kids and when they got older and had kids I took my grandchildren has well 2 of which still go If i now lived in hull I would be their has well but I still think their is no reason to call people a child but fair play to you for helping out lets hope it does not happing again
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| Quote ="Sheldon"You wouldn't have been in sl is it wasn't for him.'"
You wouldn't have been in s/l if it wasn't for gateshead,your point is ??
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| Quote ="des lawson"You wouldn't have been in s/l if it wasn't for gateshead,your point is ??'"
Still a ing dick I see Des.
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