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Quote ="gingerspice"i remember when kris welham was well known for his poor tackling maybe Agar just hasn't spent the time with hall to make him into a better defence player, i think Morgan would see it as a challenge and to also stick two fingers up to the dullers, i would welcome Craig Hall'"
With 4 players in the top 11 for missed tackles it hardly seems Morgan is the expert in making players into top defenders...
superleague.co.uk/statistics_pla ... 10&hp2=263
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Quote ="gingerspice"i remember when kris welham was well known for his poor tackling maybe Agar just hasn't spent the time with hall to make him into a better defence player, i think Morgan would see it as a challenge and to also stick two fingers up to the dullers, i would welcome Craig Hall'"
With 4 players in the top 11 for missed tackles it hardly seems Morgan is the expert in making players into top defenders...
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| Quote ="Matty_HullFC"How does Tansey's try assists stack up to Hall's?'"
Wingers are usually receiving assists rather than supplying them.
Quote ="Matty_HullFC"...tackle busts.....'"
Surely this can only be measured by how many times you've been tackled, IE, if he's been tackled 117 times then it's bad, if only 17 times then it's good.
Quote ="Matty_HullFC"...attacking kicks....'"
It's usually a wingers duty to recieve the ball and run the ball over the line, or to run onto "an attacking Kick" to score..
Thats why i didn't bother with those stats.
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Quote ="Matty_HullFC"If you think Craig Hall's contribution to Hull FC is greater than Jordan Tansey's then you need to watch a hell of a lot more of our games.'"
No thanks, i like to be entertained......... mind you, Friday.......... ![Smile icon_smile.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_smile.gif)
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| Quote ="GraftonRed"............................Hall............Tansey
Appearances..........18................22
Tries....................09................07
Goals...................03................00
Tackles................116................81
Missed tackles........18................24
Errors...................14................36
Penalties................02................11
Meters...................848...............1902
You do realise in Tansey's 22 appearances he played the full 80 and most of Craig Hall's have been cameos of half games? That said, Tansey's stats are shocking. Thank you for the pick-me-up!
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| Quote ="Gavin Miller - Legend"Dont
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Bit like your unkind words about Hall over the last couple of seasons, you know, when you thought he was never ever going to Rovers. I expect a few on here, you included, will be engaging reverse gear faster than a French tank if this comes off. Fortunately the quotabase is ready. ![Cool icon_cool.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_cool.gif)
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| Quote ="berrigans bitch"Several years...and imo he is NL1 at best'"
Well maybe but I don't suppose your doubts are such that you'll refuse to buy a season pass if he stays!
Must admit Hall seems to get worse every time I see him, his confidence is probably rock bottom right now.
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"Bit like your unkind words about Hall over the last couple of seasons, you know, when you thought he was never ever going to Rovers. I expect a few on here, you included, will be engaging reverse gear faster than a French tank if this comes off. Fortunately the quotabase is ready.
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Fill your boots luv.
Your life obviously revolves around quotes that people make on RL Fans.
Who am i to deprive you of your one and only reason for existance. ![Very Happy icon_biggrin.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_biggrin.gif)
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| Quote ="Gavin Miller - Legend"Fill your boots luv.
Your life obviously revolves around quotes that people make on RL Fans.
Who am i to deprive you of your one and only reason for existance.
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Oh dear. This is a forum to share opinions on Hull KR, including potential KR players, and how people's opinion of players may change over time, perhaps coinciding with changes in their club. I wasn't aware that it was a forum to make unnecessary comments about people's personal lives, but if you want to open that door and set a precedent, I'll take that as an invitation.
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"Oh dear. This is a forum to share opinions on Hull KR, including potential KR players, and how people's opinion of players may change over time, perhaps coinciding with changes in their club. I wasn't aware that it was a forum to make unnecessary comments about people's personal lives, but if you want to open that door and set a precedent, I'll take that as an invitation.'"
Yeah whatever save the drama act.
You have previously bumped up comments i made about Yeaman in 2006 when he was excellent.
Then you have bumped up subsequent posts from seasons 2007 - 2010 when he has been distinctly average and you stand them side by side and say i change tack because he has never signed for Rovers.
Nothing to do with the fact he couldnt sustain the form he had in that season then ?
Bump up full topics rather then isolated quotes if thats what floats your boat as then the quotes are judged in the correct context and people can see when various quotes have been made.
Do you honestly think people care what you have saved on computer.
Come on.
The day to day adolesent behaviour of people on here is way down the list of whats important in my life.
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| Quote ="His Bobness"Well maybe but I don't suppose your doubts are such that you'll refuse to buy a season pass if he stays!
Must admit Hall seems to get worse every time I see him, his confidence is probably rock bottom right now.'"
I buy a season pass whoever we have
If and a big if Craig stays, I would hope he would get a dual contract and ply his trade in NL1 to see if he can develop his game (mostly defence) and gain some confidence. The best I saw him was when he returned from Widnes last year, however the problem there was the whole team were poor so it did not give a full reflection imo.
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| Quote ="berrigans bitch"I buy a season pass whoever we have
If and a big if Craig stays, I would hope he would get a dual contract and ply his trade in NL1 to see if he can develop his game (mostly defence) and gain some confidence. The best I saw him was when he returned from Widnes last year, however the problem there was the whole team were poor so it did not give a full reflection imo.'"
Funny that you've been moaning all season on your forum that you won't waste your money
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| Quote ="Gavin Miller - Legend"Yeah whatever save the drama act.
You have previously bumped up comments i made about Yeaman is 2006 when he was excellent.
Then you have bumped up subsequent posts from seasons 2007 - 2010 when he has been distinctly average and you stand them side by side and say i change tack because he has never signed for Rovers.
Nothing to do with the fact he couldnt sustain the form he had in that season then ?
Bump up full topics rather then isolated quotes if thats what floats your boat as then the quotes are judged [uin the correct context[/u and people can see when various quotes have been made.
Do you honestly think people care what you have saved on computer.
Come on.
The day to day adolesent behaviour of people on here is way down the list of whats important in my life.'"
You didn't rate Hall in the past and said Rovers never wanted him because he wasn't good enough. Since then he's stagnated at best. Would be most odd if your opinion of him has done a 180 in the "correct context" of your opinion of him not being good enough and having got worse, then. Still, it's all hypothetical. Isn't it?
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| If we have a shocking injury list like we have had this year then Hall is adequate cover providing he comes at the right price. He'd have to prove himself when given the chance
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| Always thought Craig would turn out to be 'the next big thing', but it just never happened, probably down to Agar and his classic coaching...Craig probably needs a fresh start and I hope who ever he goes to he steps up and proves the doubters wrong. Dont care who lads from Hull play for, i just want them to do well!
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| Quote ="MrPhilb"Funny that you've been moaning all season on your forum that you won't waste your money'"
can provide all these quotes to back that claim up!! ![Rolling Eyes icon_rolleyes.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_rolleyes.gif)
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| Quote ="berrigans bitch"can provide all these quotes to back that claim up!!
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You'll have to excuse me i'm not quite as organised as Mrs B but i think it goes something like this
Quote ="berrigans bitch"TBH it is the first time I am seriously considering not renewing my pass
Even if they signed the likes of Billy Slater etc...within a month Agar would reduce them to average players, I am not prepared to put myself through this every year and put my hard earned cash into it. I think I will put all my energies into the amateur game, you may not see top quality skill, however you see plenty of pride & passion.'"
I'd find some more but well I don't have an extensive bookmarking of quotes ![Smile icon_smile.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_smile.gif)
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| Quote ="berrigans bitch"I buy a season pass whoever we have'"
Quote ="MrPhilb"Funny that you've been moaning all season on your forum that you won't waste your money'"
Quote ="berrigans bitch"can provide all these quotes to back that claim up!! '"
Quote ="MrPhilb"You'll have to excuse me i'm not quite as organised as Mrs B but i think it goes something like this'"
Quote ="berrigans bitch"TBH it is the first time I am seriously considering not renewing my pass
Even if they signed the likes of Billy Slater etc...within a month Agar would reduce them to average players, I am not prepared to put myself through this every year and put my hard earned cash into it. I think I will put all my energies into the amateur game, you may not see top quality skill, however you see plenty of pride & passion.
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[size=200 =#0000FFOwned[/size ...... Mrs B will be proud ![Very Happy icon_biggrin.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_biggrin.gif)
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"You didn't rate Hall in the past and said Rovers never wanted him because he wasn't good enough. Since then he's stagnated at best. Would be most odd if your opinion of him has done a 180 in the "correct context" of your opinion of him not being good enough and having got worse, then. Still, it's all hypothetical. Isn't it?'"
Post quotes i have made regarding Hall and i will respond to them taking into account the date they were made.
The lad is actually the type of player i like, he excites crowds and can get you a match winning try.
However his body language in a Hull FC shirt is not right and if the small % of posters who use the Hull FC forum on this site represent the general opinion of him he needs to get out of the KC quick sharp.
Whether its the coaching at Hull that isnt helping him will remain to be seen if he joins another club.
His contact in Defense certainly needs work and also his decision making.
However i have seen several instances where he has been slated and tries have been conceded by Hull because he was left isolated.
Therefore it could simply be a confidence issue and again a fresh start for him is the answer.
It thats at Rovers he would start the season as 4th choice Centre, perhaps even 5th if Cockayne is playing well.
Morgan will make that decision.
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| Quote ="MrPhilb"You'll have to excuse me i'm not quite as organised as Mrs B but i think it goes something like this
I'd find some more but well I don't have an extensive bookmarking of quotes
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I will put my morgate on the fact you will not find any-more....
Yet there you was claiming I moaned all season ![SUBMISSION c020.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//c020.gif)
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| Quote ="GraftonRed"[size=200=#0000FFOwned[/size ...... Mrs B will be proud
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Not quite owned
I wrote that a couple of weeks ago...He claimed I had moaned all season ![Laughing icon_lol.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_lol.gif)
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| Quote ="berrigans bitch"Not quite owned
I wrote that a couple of weeks ago...He claimed I had moaned all season
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Playing the devils advocate may i suggest you only moaned about Craig Hall a couple of weeks ago....
But other, more general moans have been throughout the season. ![Wink icon_wink.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_wink.gif)
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"Bit like your unkind words about Hall over the last couple of seasons, you know, when you thought he was never ever going to Rovers. I expect a few on here, you included, will be engaging reverse gear faster than a French tank if this comes off. Fortunately the quotabase is ready.
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Conversely did you save the dates and threads from hull fans who have changed their minds ( nearly said as much as their underpants, until i realised we are talking of the great unwashed ![Wink icon_wink.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_wink.gif) ) consistently over the season dependent on which media organisation has stated he will / will not be moving to Rovers.
IMO he is one of the most deadly attacking players in super league and one of the worst defensively and like my initial reaction when Rovers announced the signing of Josh Hodgson i was completely neutral.
Must add, since watching JH play i realise why Justin Morgan is a coach and i am not....the lad has been very good and has the potential to become a top class super league player.
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| Quote ="Bertie"Playing the devils advocate may i suggest you only moaned about Craig Hall a couple of weeks ago....
But other, more general moans have been throughout the season.
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TBF Bert I have moaned about Hally for a few seasons ![Laughing icon_lol.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_lol.gif)
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| I think it would be better for Craig if he went to another club rather than to us. As has been stated he would be at best 4th choice if not 5th choice centre and 3rd choice winger for us. Add to that he would be under scrutiny and pressure as he'd crossed the divide which he doesn't seem to handle to well.
I think for his career development he would be better plying his trade at somewhere like Cas / Wakey so it was a complete change of surroundings and somewhere he may get a better chance of 1st team rugby.
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| If you're talking about natural attacking rugby league ability, then Craig Hall is better than any centre currently playing for either Hull club, but unfortunately his defficiencies at this moment in time far outweigh the positives he brings to a team. where he needs to go to get better I don't know.
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