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| Quote ="Tarquin Fuego"There you go IDIOT - check your non classy facts first
"There's been a feeling and realisation over the last couple of years that we were starting to hit a bit of a glass ceiling.
"If you compare ourselves with the really top clubs, there's a gulf in facilities and resources and fan base.
"If there was one real positive from last Monday it's realising that, in some respects, we're light years behind Wigan.
"They have conditioners, sport scientists and have four or five ex-internationals as assistant coaches who earn more money than THE head coach."'"
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Read the last line and that is what I was clearly referring to ! OUR being CS , read it online at BBC Rugby League , not hard to read it right and I am afraid Grafton Red doctored his account to fit his non classy argument
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Listen at the 51 second mark you hear the word "THE" and if you don't quite catch it the first time he says "THE" again and that is what I was clearly referring to ! THE being "THE" Wigan coach, not hard to hear it right, and I am afraid Tarquin Fuego used his account to fit his non classy argument.
Here you go IDIOT - check your non classy facts first
[url=http://www.wikiupload.com/IQSJE23ZD2NP2EW"LISTEN" here tarquin[/url
I suggest you place the "BBC Rugby League" in the same category as the Daily Mail, and perhaps stick to the Sin Bin with the cuddle crew.
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| Quote ="The_Mighty_F90"Well that well and truly put Tarquin Fuego in his place.
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Indeed, using BBC Rugby League as the voice of authority carries the same level of reliability as giving Nick Leeson the keys to The Bank Of England. Sunday's match report of the Rovers Saints game featured the views from the dressing room of Peter Gentle and Laurent Frayssinous.
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Quote ="GraftonRed"Edited again for accuracy
Listen at the 51 second mark you hear the word "THE" and if you don't quite catch it the first time he says "THE" again and that is what I was clearly referring to ! THE being "THE" Wigan coach, not hard to hear it right, and I am afraid Tarquin Fuego used his account to fit his non classy argument.
Here you go IDIOT - check your non classy facts first
[url=http://www.wikiupload.com/IQSJE23ZD2NP2EW"LISTEN" here tarquin[/url
I suggest you place the "BBC Rugby League" in the same category as the Daily Mail, and perhaps stick to the Sin Bin with the cuddle crew.
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read the full article www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/rugby-league/22060533 and I am vindicated ![BLAH c015.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//c015.gif)
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Quote ="GraftonRed"Edited again for accuracy
Listen at the 51 second mark you hear the word "THE" and if you don't quite catch it the first time he says "THE" again and that is what I was clearly referring to ! THE being "THE" Wigan coach, not hard to hear it right, and I am afraid Tarquin Fuego used his account to fit his non classy argument.
Here you go IDIOT - check your non classy facts first
[url=http://www.wikiupload.com/IQSJE23ZD2NP2EW"LISTEN" here tarquin[/url
I suggest you place the "BBC Rugby League" in the same category as the Daily Mail, and perhaps stick to the Sin Bin with the cuddle crew.
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read the full article www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/rugby-league/22060533 and I am vindicated ![BLAH c015.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//c015.gif)
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| Quote ="gingerspice"Hardly trolling tho is it jake'"
At least I can understand what the trolls are posting without having to read it 4 times
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| strong rumours yesterday that allam is the man
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Wont bother, i've HEARD all i need to HEAR.
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No your not. You of all people, i'd of thought, would have checked your facts before calling someone an "IDIOT" so as not to make yourself look like one.
As i said, i suggest you stick to the Sin Bin where the cuddle crew believe everything you say without question.
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Wont bother, i've HEARD all i need to HEAR.
Quote ="Tarquin Fuego"and I am vindicated
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No your not. You of all people, i'd of thought, would have checked your facts before calling someone an "IDIOT" so as not to make yourself look like one.
As i said, i suggest you stick to the Sin Bin where the cuddle crew believe everything you say without question.
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| Quote ="Tarquin Fuego"Hudge told the BBC that Wigan's many assistant coaches are paid more then CS
Very poor to discuss your coach's wages in a public forum and compare them to other club's assistant coaches
It was only a few years ago you finished 4th and beat Wigan
Not classy from NH'"
So the initial argument stands then. Hudgell didn't tell Humberside what your quote implies. The BBC have just sensationalised what Neil actually said in his interview and changed a few words.
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| I don't listen to Humberside as I live in Melbourne . I don't take much notice of Hull Mail as poor read. I read the BBC and I can't see how they quoted him out of context either. So I am right and if he didn't say those words then you are right.
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| Quote ="Tarquin Fuego"I don't listen to Humberside as I live in Melbourne . I don't take much notice of Hull Mail as poor read. I read the BBC and I can't see how they quoted him out of context either. So I am right and if he didn't say those words then you are right.'"
Trust me you are wrong.
Why not listen to the interview on Humberside instead of acting like an idiot
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| Not taking sides on this, as I simply cannot be bothered to either read nor listen to the related articles but..........
Why would Wigan pay assistant coaches more than the head coach? That doesn't seem reasonable.
Back on topic, if it is Allam, be careful of what you wish for ![Wink icon_wink.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_wink.gif)
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| Quote ="Tarquin Fuego"I don't listen to Humberside as I live in Melbourne . I don't take much notice of Hull Mail as poor read. I read the BBC and I can't see how they quoted him out of context either. So I am right and if he didn't say those words then you are right.'"
Perhaps you shouldn't come on here being the BIG I AM and trying to get cuddle crew points, stick to the Sin Bin as i said, you would have had back up on there no matter how wrong you where. Calling someone an IDIOT in bold type only leaves yourself wide open when you are comprehensively proven to be talking $##t.
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| Quote ="Mild mannered Janitor"
Why would Wigan pay assistant coaches more than the head coach? That doesn't seem reasonable. '"
They don't, nobody said they do...
To save you going through it all...
What was said...
"They have a fantastic infrastructure, they probably have more support staff and backroom staff than they have players. They have conditioners, sports scientists, that earn more than THE head coach and have 4 or 5 internationals as assistant coaches..."
Note... "THE" head coach, not "OUR" head coach. ![Very Happy icon_biggrin.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_biggrin.gif)
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| Quote ="Tarquin Fuego"I don't listen to Humberside as I live in Melbourne . I don't take much notice of Hull Mail as poor read. I read the BBC and I can't see how they quoted him out of context either. So I am right and if he didn't say those words then you are right.'"
Listen to the actual interview the link has been posted. You'd have to open ONE link and scroll to the specified time in the interview the time in the interview which has also been provided for you.
Couldn't get much easier really.
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| There is a scenario in which the Allams would make sense, maybe on a couple of levels. However, that NH and RC are apparently repaying their loan sounds like it wouldn't be them and is maybe clearing the decks for others.
The search that began pre-Larvin has just been intensified and given a finite timescale is what seems most likely to me.
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| I heard the interview on Sunday, at no point did NH compare Wigan's conditioner's salaries to Hull KR's Head Coach. Tarquin is a liar (again) and all his attempts to backpeddle won't fool me.
Liar, liar, pants on fire.
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| Quote ="SirStan"I heard the interview on Sunday, at no point did NH compare Wigan's conditioner's salaries to Hull KR's Head Coach. Tarquin is a liar (again) and all his attempts to backpeddle won't fool me.
Liar, liar, pants on fire.'"
Good god Stan. You are harsh!!
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| So in short, BBC RL have ballsed up the written summary of the interview.
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| Quote ="☺East-Sard☺"So in short, BBC RL have ballsed up the written summary of the interview.'"
=#FF0000I've had enough of your clear trolling.
Go and find another bridge to hide under or take a break your choice.-AS
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| One of the kids will have to help me out here, what does "LOSBL" mean?
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| Quote ="Tarquin Fuego"=#FF0000I've had enough of your clear trolling.
Go and find another bridge to hide under or take a break your choice.-AS'"
You had pointed out to you quite politely on several occasions.
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| Quote ="GraftonRed"They don't, nobody said they do...
To save you going through it all...
What was said...
"They have a fantastic infrastructure, they probably have more support staff and backroom staff than they have players. They have conditioners, sports scientists, that earn more than THE head coach and have 4 or 5
internationals as assistant coaches..."
Note... "THE" head coach, not "OUR" head coach.
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Note the wording of my original post.
If the comment made by NH was not referring to Sandercocks, then he must have been referring to Shaun Wane. So the question remains, why would Wigan pay the head coach less than an assistant or a conditioner?
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| Quote ="Tarquin Fuego"=#FF0000I've had enough of your clear trolling.
Go and find another bridge to hide under or take a break your choice.-AS'"
Another "classy" response, but wrong again!
Quote ="Tarquin Fuego"Hudge told the BBC that Wigan's many assistant coaches are paid more then CS
Very poor to discuss your coach's wages in a public forum and compare them to other club's assistant coaches
It was only a few years ago you finished 4th and beat Wigan
Not classy from NH'"
My polite response, in kind, just to try to correct your obvious misinformation, no abuse.
Quote ="GraftonRed"No he didn't...
Referring to Wigan, the part you allude to...
....They have a fantastic infrastructure, they probably have more support staff and backroom staff than they have players. They have conditioners, sports scientists, that earn more than THE head coach and 4 or 5 internationals as assistant coaches...
No, no mention of CS there.
Very poor to make things up, not classy from TF.'"
Then in true Sin Bin fashion, the abusive response...
Quote ="Tarquin Fuego"There you go IDIOT - check your non classy facts first
"There's been a feeling and realisation over the last couple of years that we were starting to hit a bit of a glass ceiling.
"If you compare ourselves with the really top clubs, there's a gulf in facilities and resources and fan base.
"If there was one real positive from last Monday it's realising that, in some respects, we're light years behind Wigan.
"They have conditioners, sport scientists and have four or five ex-internationals as assistant coaches who earn more money than OUR head coach."'"
abusive response backed up with more bull
Quote ="Tarquin Fuego"
Read the last line and that is what I was clearly referring to ! OUR being CS , read it online at BBC Rugby League , not hard to read it right and I am afraid Grafton Red doctored his account to fit his non classy argument
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Keep backtracking all you want, but look behind you, wouldn't want you to fall in that hole that keeps getting deeper.
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| Quote ="Mild mannered Janitor"Note the wording of my original post.
If the comment made by NH was not referring to Sandercocks, then he must have been referring to Shaun Wane. So the question remains, why would Wigan pay the head coach less than an assistant or a conditioner?'"
I have,
Quote ="Mild mannered Janitor"Not taking sides on this, as I simply cannot be bothered to either read nor listen to the related articles but..........
Why would Wigan pay assistant coaches more than the head coach? That doesn't seem reasonable.
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Note: you said "assistant coaches" in your original post...the one this response referred to...
Quote ="GraftonRed"They don't, nobody said they do...
To save you going through it all...
What was said...
"They have a fantastic infrastructure, they probably have more support staff and backroom staff than they have players. They have conditioners, sports scientists, that earn more than THE head coach and have 4 or 5 internationals as assistant coaches..."'"
Note: He didn't say " assistant coaches that earn more than the head coach"
Quote ="Mild mannered Janitor"
If the comment made by NH was not referring to Sandercocks, then he must have been referring to Shaun Wane. So the question remains, why would Wigan pay the head coach less than an assistant or a conditioner?'"
You did say "assistant coaches" not "assistant or a conditioner", it depends who/what the assistant assists, and i really have no idea how much salary a "sports scientist" can command.
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