I know Simmies are struggling, but to say Burke should be plying his trade on Leigh Rec is extremely harsh on Simmies!

Off the top of my head one poster said I went to watch Hull kr against Halifax and they were terrible not a patch on Leigh last season they have one decent player we have absolutely nothing to fear from them

So you go by what one fan said then? Probably knows nothing about Rugby League and the majority know it will be tough especially on your patch.

I thought that, we were massive favourites that day, so much so I managed to watch the game whilst so drunk I still can't remember a thing about it other than we were pretty comfortable most of the game. Must watch it back sometime.

To be honest we were terrible against fax and on that display they would have nothing to fear, we do seem to be able to match what ever oppo we play, which whilst no good for the old ticker against the lesser oppo it does seem to be effective against the better sides.

If I was a betting man, the pessimist in me would go for a narrow Widnes win.

You will all be happy that Bridge has also played his last game. Three best players out in Hanbury, Craven and Bridge in key postions.

No disrespect to bridge but he's in the autumn of his career I would of thought runciman? Was your best centre?

Well that gives me more hope still not confident but then I never am any idea in the numbers you will be bringing over with the game been on sky

We have played 3 superleague teams this year Leigh twice and played well and the 14-24 loss away at Salford,factor in that at that point Reds form was red hot and but for a Cockayne brainfart we could have gone ahead very near end.Im never overly confident pre game with Rovers but I saw some good performances at Fev and reckon like Sheens said few week ago we have a big performance waiting to come out.

Bridge has been the best centre this year when fit. Unfortunately the guy can't stay fit and Betts has to stop buying Crocks like him.

The real thing here is that Widnes should have ditched Betts at the start of the year. I have no idea how he is still in his job. Saying the RFL should bring back franchising whilst your club is still at risk is a man who is not coping with the pressure. He got the team there, he has to show some responsibility.

Also, I'd completely forgotten we were favourites in 2006. Senility must be creeping in. I do remember singing ''Stevo, what's the score' because I think he was backing Widnes to win it.

Regardless, we need to channel the same hunger and enthusiasm we had that game for this Saturday. It's going to be tight and I reckon some tempers may flare on the field.

So let's get this right your slating Greg burke (who btw I think is gash) and you have ben kavanagh in your second row ffs you couldn't make it up.

Totally agree a lot of Widnes fans have wanted Betts gone years ago. I think he must be sucking someone on the board as I feel he is out of his depth. In the Championship he could only come 5th with probably one of the best budgets at the time. Anyway should be a good game and very close.

No, we are slating Greg Burke because he's a lazy, overweight pudding of a player.

Ben Kavanagh has not played a single game in the 2nd row whilst at Rovers.

I thought Burke did okay for us as a somewhat promising young utility forward in... 2015 was it?

He might have been terrible this year, in fairness - I cancelled Sky Sports after the MPG.

If he'd come through the ranks at Rovers and stayed, I reckon there'd be plenty reminding us that props don't reach their peak until their late 20s and we'd best hold on to him for five or six more years lest we miss out on a couple of decent seasons from him.

We got it bang on with Kavanagh. Waited until he was just about to get good before signing him - he's been top notch this season (albeit in the Championship).

My word! Widnes fans do exist on this forum after all!

I must admit, I thought the signing of Kavanagh would of been a waste of cap space when first signed. But he's been an excellent acquisition. Burke on the other hand......... Not fit to lace kavanaghs boots.
As Mild rover said. He's a player that's matured into a fine player.

Agree about Kav, thought he was here to make up the numbers, but has held his position at 13 and has been one of our better consistent performers. Only decent game I remember Burke having was his last one and wondering why he hadn't played like that all season

Burke still knocking about in SL? Deary me. Complete e.

Nothing to fear with Widnes. Could go either way.

you will be refs are shocking it all depends on who you get bentham is the best childs is a joke

I wasn't very Impressed with Kavanagh signing at the time but he has been consistent and can play 80.Also thought the same of Scruton but he has been even better.Burke reminds me a little of Mills for us in that he had every tool to be a star but seemed lacking in heart. Kavanagh seems to have a stronger constitution and iv enjoyed watching him play.What is Bridges injury?Big loss if true?

Bridge has apparently had a hip operation and has retired from the game. Always thought he was a very good player, just blighted by injury

Nothing at all to fear from the Widnes 19 man squad, without getting complacent, I'd be hugely surprised to not beat them by at least 10.

Ive seen then against hull twice and they played well (in parts) is both games, suffered badly with injuries and mis management (Brown and Chase), they still have some good players (mainly forwards) like Cahill, Heremia, Whitely, Mellor and young Walker. Think Rovers advantage could be in the backs where they look a bit weak, particularly without Hanbury.

Thought Heremia was long term injured?Just looked at their 19 and agree with Moxi's view.They are solid enough but without plastic pitch advantage and few key larkers I'm hopeful we will win.Abdull back for us, if he does play will probably be at Atkins expense?Big call either way similar with Moss and Quinlan

Kav was decent for us in the Championship too, pattern emerging here.

No idea why Burke is mentioned so much in this thread, he hasn't played this year, isn't good enough to get into our 19 when we have everyone.

We've picked up some knocks last week in Craven, Bridge & Hanbury which is a big loss, but I'm assumed as posters writing us off so much. Our failings this year has been down to injuries (we've used more players in the first team this year than any other team in SL) and it has shown. When we've got players back we've looked a lot better.

Expect a decent game but playing SL all season will go in our favour.