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| League table shows we are still above you
If you go above us after the next round of fixures the OP will have a case
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| Quote ="Burtons Forearm"Well, well. After being very happy at Mr. Sandercock getting a contract renewal we see how the coaches of Hull And Rovers are developing their teams.
Having been terribly criticised by our own fans and ridiculed by the Hull fans Mr. Sandercock is level on points with Mr. Gentle (and but for a terrible video ref decision would be in front). One of these two coaches works to the full cap. One has top notch facilities, one has a club in a very difficult financial state, one had the money to get one of the most coveted forwards in world rugby and is able to pursue any player he wishes. The other coach appears to get the very best out of his players and has had to 'make do and mend' with his recruitment, relying on players from the NRL to take pay cuts to come and play for him. One of the coaches managed to be part of a coaching team that coached the Australian national team to 2nd place in most of the competitions they entered (some achievement).
One of them is arrogant (in reference to Rovers) 'they bring the worst out of us and we bring the best out of them' was stated after being out played for the third time in a derby this year.
What a win today. The Rovers fans should rally behind Sandercock who is growing into his job.
We have the best the best coach in Hull!'"
It was the best video ref decision I've ever seen
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| Gentle say's it as it is.. Everything he says after the games is spot on.. He did say that the better teams bring out the best in us. He also stated this was down to an attitude problem as we seem more interested in the big games against the big sides and struggle or do just enough against the so called weaker sides.
Regarding the best coach in hull. That's still up for debate as both have done reasonably well with the budgets they have had. (As for us being a richer club is not our fault. We've got a Owner who's willing to plough money into us)
But Sandy has done well, But Gentle is building for our future and has brought in several youngsters who have cemented starting births and for that reason alone i'm going to say Gentle.
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| Gentle has implemented decent attacking systems and has the least penalised team in competition which is good.
However, his attacking structures are worse than average with FC being the 12th worst try scorers in the league, some of his recruitment is questionable and he has little capacity to improve players to rid them of their deficiencies which will always leave plenty for the opposition to target.
Gentle is a toss-pot also, never giving the opposition any credit when his team gets beat when in actual fact he can't see (or is in denial) that he simply is an average coach with a chronic lack of ideas in attack.
I look forward to his team getting a pasting when they come to MS3 CP when CS will expose how poor a coach Gentle is in comparison.
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| Quote ="General Zod."Gentle has implemented decent attacking systems and has the least penalised team in competition which is good.
However, his attacking structures are worse than average with FC being the 12th worst try scorers in the league, some of his recruitment is questionable and he has little capacity to improve players to rid them of their deficiencies which will always leave plenty for the opposition to target.
Gentle is a toss-pot also, never giving the opposition any credit when his team gets beat when in actual fact he can't see (or is in denial) that he simply is an average coach with a chronic lack of ideas in attack.
I look forward to his team getting a pasting when they come to MS3 CP when CS will expose how poor a coach Gentle is in comparison.'"
your argument started well until you resounded to petty name calling!
you are an idiot! that isn't name calling that's stating a fact"
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| Quote ="number 6"your argument started well until you resounded to petty name calling!
you are an idiot! that isn't name calling that's stating a fact"'"
Resounded to??? WTF does that mean?
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| Sandercock had the worst luck of any coach in the whole of Super League this season but he never once failed to give credit to the opposition when his team got beat.
Gentle acts like he's the greatest coach on the planet when in actual fact his team couldn't attack a ballon with sewing pin.
His brand of rugby league is crap and he should learn to accept that his team loses games because he's a very average coach of a very average team.
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| Judas H .Priest, what the ****?
Rovers fans are going to say Sandercock, and Hull fans Gentle, its a no brainer. Can`t we discuss something more controversial???
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| Quote ="General Zod."Sandercock had the worst luck of any coach in the whole of Super League this season but he never once failed to give credit to the opposition when his team got beat.
Gentle acts like he's the greatest coach on the planet when in actual fact his team couldn't attack a ballon with sewing pin.
His brand of rugby league is crap and he should learn to accept that his team loses games because he's a very average coach of a very average team.'"
Knock yourself out if it makes you happy, Me? I will persevere with this average team.
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| Quote ="number 6"your argument started well until you resounded to petty name calling!
you are an idiot! that isn't name calling that's stating a fact"'"
Your lot can't even mention CS or NH's names without petty name calling.
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| Is this same sandy-cock that was getting drummed out of the club by grudgell and the fans only a matter of weeks ago?.
He's the Australian Richard agar. Although agar didn't whinge every time something went against him.
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| Well after 19 games and only being level on points by chance Sandercock should be two points in front of the former assistant coach of Australia who ain't living up to his own hype. All these wind bags all over this forum wanting to gloat about the Paea situation but not one decent defence of their under achieving coach. I,'ll give him he has them defending well. They turn attackers around and put them face down on the floor. This gives them more control at the ruck rucksomething Rovers struggle at. However Sandercock seems to improve all his players and his attacking play is brilliant to watch. gentle's rugby is dire. The players attitude comes from the coach. He thinks he's above some clubs in the league and that shows in his players. Here's another question. Who's the biggest under achievers in the super league era. My nomination...that constant top 4 team Hull fc
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| Quote ="Irregular Hoops"Is this same sandy-cock that was getting drummed out of the club by grudgell and the fans only a matter of weeks ago?.
He's the Australian Richard agar. Although agar didn't whinge every time something went against him.'"
The mantle of the "Australian Richard Agar" is more apt for Gentle with his pathetic try scoring rate and his post-match interviews where the only reason for a loss is his team not playing well etc. when in actual fact he is an average coach with an average team.
Gentle has had a fairer run than most with injuries yet you're the 3rd from bottom in the try scoring chart where as Sandercock's team is fourth highest despite him having worse luck with injuries and worse decisions than any other coach in the competition.
The chickens are starting to come home to roost now and Sandercock is being proven as a superb attacking coach, a developer of players whilst Gentle is nothing more than a decent defensive coach who lacks the attacking ideas to ever lead any team to a top-four position despite the HDM propaganda machine saying otherwise.
Gentle is a fraud.
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| Quote ="Legends and Icons"I think Gentle comes across as honest tbh Ginge after Cas game he said we deserved to lose and he was right , I dont know were the arrogant thing comes from , As for Sandercock apart from Banter I havent really got an opinion on the guy.as for Little man Grudge well thats a different story
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I can't agree with u on that one think his per game hdm stories really let him down for a big fall I really didn't feel cas wud beat u tbh, I know a few and on here slated how sandercock comes across on an after match interview but I think he has grown in stature and matured, gentles approach is rather than stick and work with the players he drops em
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| There both decent coaches but i've got to go with Sandy as i'm a Rovers fan! FC fans say Sandy moans in every press conference after a defeat well that's true he's passionate and finds it hard to hide his dissappointment. Gentle on the other hand comes across as the most arrogant coach ever, Never giving any other team credit wrongly believing his own chairman's hype about his own team. It's annoying we lost to Cas because of our own failings not because Cas played brilliantly and deserved it. We didn't deserve to win at Magic cos WE played badly not that Rovers out enthused them for 70 minutes because believe me we were not brilliant ourselves that day. It's typical Aussie arrogance and it's annoying because all of the delusional fans are the same!!!
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| Quote ="ComeOnYouUll"Thanks.'"
Why do you constantly come on here? Cant remember the last time i even browsed Hulls board,let alone posted.You know why? Cos they're not my team!
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| Quote ="10-5"Why do you constantly come on here? Cant remember the last time i even browsed Hulls board,let alone posted.You know why? Cos they're not my team!'"
To be fair he is one of the better ones that come on here
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| I think if both teams are at full strength then Sandercock comes out on top every time
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| Both teams near full cap
Hull above kr
Hull still in the cup
Kr out the cup
Hull with easier games left to play (on paper of course)
Not rocket science
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| Quote ="Legends and Icons"Both teams near full cap
Hull above kr
Hull still in the cup
Kr out the cup
Hull with easier games left to play (on paper of course)
Not rocket science'"
Cas was a given game if u don't have the right attitude u don't win and didn't gentle say u play rubbish against lower teams I'd say u was screwed then paper or not and u won't be in the cup for long
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| Quote ="gingerspice"Cas was a given game if u don't have the right attitude u don't win and didn't gentle say u play rubbish against lower teams I'd say u was screwed then paper or not
and u won't be in the cup for long'"
Harry hill would sort this thread answer out .. whos the best coach in hull sandy or gentle ?
Theres only one way to find out ............FIGHT .
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| Quote ="Legends and Icons"Harry hill would sort this thread answer out .. whos the best coach in hull sandy or gentle ?
Theres only one way to find out ............FIGHT .
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Gentle wud first of have to try and catch sandercock not the slimmest of coaches is he
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| [urlhttp://www.thisishullandeastriding.co.uk/HULL-FC-Gentle-wants-finish-Super-League/story-13313325-detail/story.html#axzz2WzfcK9u1[/url
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| Quote ="gingerspice"To be fair he is one of the better ones that come on here'"
And most of them have more chips than Bob Carvers
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| Quote ="General Zod."[urlhttp://www.thisishullandeastriding.co.uk/HULL-FC-Gentle-wants-finish-Super-League/story-13313325-detail/story.html#axzz2WzfcK9u1[/url
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Theres nothing wrong with that interview. He WANTS to make Hull a top 2 side. Id be disappointed if CS didn't want to make Rovers a top 2 side as well.
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