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| The simple answer is to (again) follow the Australian format and have 2 officials in the box. That way they can question each other for contentious tries, especially like yesterdays and todays (Salford offside) games.
On another point we were quick to tell the Hull fans to 'move on' last year and we should do the same now. What should happen now is that our marketing team should make the most of this and really get them packed in for the 'decider' at our place. It's 1 each, lets settle the issue in the most appropriate manner, on the field.
May I also say, how garbage were FC yesterday after what was a great team performance at Warrington last week. That is why they won't win anything this season.
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| Quote ="wilde-robin"your team are pathetic you clown
did you see pearson and mcraes face when we beat you at the kc
im proud of rovers the way they played fc was expecting a walk over, if you think gentle and fc are top 8 material you are a fool,'"
Name eight teams better than us...
I rest my case.
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| Quote ="el red"The simple answer is to (again) follow the Australian format and have 2 officials in the box. That way they can question each other for contentious tries, especially like yesterdays and todays (Salford offside) games.
On another point we were quick to tell the Hull fans to 'move on' last year and we should do the same now. What should happen now is that our marketing team should make the most of this and really get them packed in for the 'decider' at our place. It's 1 each, lets settle the issue in the most appropriate manner, on the field.'"
Quote ="el red"May I also say, how garbage were FC yesterday after what was a great team performance at Warrington last week. That is why they won't win anything this season.'"
Every team has an off-game. Even champion teams (Leeds lost 50-8 at home and still went on to win the league!).
I don't expect us to win anything this season, don't get me wrong. But to use one performance as an indicator is a bit daft.
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| Wellsy13, you are correct you are a top 8 team, you just aren't a top 4 team like most of your fans have been saying this year.
I like coaches being confident but sometimes talking it up sets you up for ridicule.
And before you jump on this I actually have always wanted both Hull teams to be better than the rest, i'd rather have a Hull KR v Hull FC final for everything. Although I would want Rovers to beat you all the time also.
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| I agree you can't be great every week but the fact is that your staff were talking up last weeks result as being a pivotal moment in your season and about the great team spirit etc.
Whilst I am sure there is great team spirit, why not simply quietly go about your business each week and sneak up on the so called 'big 4'.
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| Quote ="el red"Wellsy13, you are correct you are a top 8 team, you just aren't a top 4 team like most of your fans have been saying this year.
I like coaches being confident but sometimes talking it up sets you up for ridicule.
And before you jump on this I actually have always wanted both Hull teams to be better than the rest, i'd rather have a Hull KR v Hull FC final for everything. Although I would want Rovers to beat you all the time also.'"
Quote ="el red"I agree you can't be great every week but the fact is that your staff were talking up last weeks result as being a pivotal moment in your season and about the great team spirit etc.
Whilst I am sure there is great team spirit, why not simply quietly go about your business each week and sneak up on the so called 'big 4'.'" How many of our fans think we are a top four team?
We're aiming for the top four. It's a target. That target needs reinforcing and the players need to know what's expected of them. It was pivotal in that we can beat a top side at their place when we're behind. It gave many of our players that belief we can do it. We have often started games well and stopped playing in the last 10-20 minutes. Recently we've scored 5 tries in two games in last 10 minutes.
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| Quote ="el red"Wellsy13, you are correct you are a top 8 team, you just aren't a top 4 team like most of your fans have been saying this year.
I like coaches being confident but sometimes talking it up sets you up for ridicule.
And before you jump on this I actually have always wanted both Hull teams to be better than the rest, i'd rather have a Hull KR v Hull FC final for everything. Although I would want Rovers to beat you all the time also.'"
Please post the link to this survey.
I'm pretty sure most Hull fans on here (a tiny minority of the fan base, of course) were saying 5th or 6th for us which looks possible as things stand.
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| I must say the team we put out yesterday (on paper) had no right to be that close to the team FC fielded, it just goes to show that maybe Sandercock has got something and people should have faith in him.
On the other 'top 4' issue, well I speak to a lot of FC fans and to a man they say that, on paper, their teams is good enough to be top 4. Shame the game isn't played on paper though. Again, this is a small sample size thats lacks any scientific credibility.
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| Interview with former Hull FC player Jon Sharp. Nice tie, by the way.
[urlhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9qqInDLwvtc&feature=youtu.be[/url
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| It had to happen - the attack on Jon Sharp as being 'ex FC'. As hard as he tries Hudgell just can't help himself.
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| Quote ="el red"I must say the team we put out yesterday (on paper) had no right to be that close to the team FC fielded, it just goes to show that maybe Sandercock has got something and people should have faith in him.
On the other 'top 4' issue, well I speak to a lot of FC fans and to a man they say that, on paper, their teams is good enough to be top 4. Shame the game isn't played on paper though. Again, this is a small sample size thats lacks any scientific credibility.'"
So basically a small group of people you speak to that we don't know say we're a top four side, and that equates to "most FC fans"? Can you see why you're being picked up on this throw away statement?
Sandercock needs consistency, not one off games.
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| If the shoe was on the other foot all these Fc clowns would be going mad about it again. So dont come on here whinging because were going mad about it.
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| Classless statement from Hudgell, Jon Sharp is head of officiating, who else is going to issue an official statement ? Ganson admitted he made a mistake, more than he did to us last year.
Rovers fans saying he cost us the "points" need to remember it was 16 all at the time and we were unfortunate to be only level as O'Meley's tackle on Mika was never a penalty. I have seen tries like Yeaman's not given but all of the sky commentators said it was try including Cummins. Both teams had tries that had dubious passes in them.
We took it on the chin last year, suggest you do the same.
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| Quote ="Gavin Miller - Legend"All I want now is the RFL to clarify how it won't happen again.
Root Cause Corrective Action is what it's called in my job if a mistake is made.
Identify what went wrong.
Then state what preventative measures have been put in place to prevent reoccurance.
That has not happened so far but maybe it's too soon and might happen during the next week or two'"
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| Quote ="Wellsy13""For all of them I need more than ‘sorry’ from an ex-Hull FC player, coach and vocal advocate down the years."
That quote there completely ruined the entire statement and showed his true colours. Completely uncalled for and completely unnecessary. It's comments like that that create unneeded ill-feeling between the clubs. I'm glad some of the more level-headed Rovers fans can see that. I just don't see what he hopes to achieve from making that comment.'"
Have to agree.
No need to take a shot at Jon Sharp.
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| Hudgell and Sandercock having temper tantrums, blaming everybody else, surely not.
It's doing your club no favours, sorry to say. They should let it go. Plain and simple. Mistakes happen in sport, in someways it's all part of its entertainment.
Hull had a daft decision last year, you did this year. Hull played poorly, Hull KR failed to capitise. Hull woke up in the last 10, and drew level - fair and square. You hadn't done enough to actually win this game either way anyway. Last year we were robbed of 2 points, you got away with getting robbed of 1. Holsworth should have kicked the conversation all day along after Yeamans try, so you were fortunate to be even in that position.
If Hugell believes that an investigation into standards is going to yield any results he is in cloud cookoo land. The RFL know it wasn't good enough and have aplogised. They don't need an investigation to tell them its not good enough. Hugell I suspect knows this however, which means he is just trying to make a lot of noise to pacify the fans.
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| Quote ="bishops finger"If the shoe was on the other foot all these Fc clowns would be going mad about it again. So dont come on here whinging because were going mad about it.'"
If I was a KR fan, frankly I would have laughed at how ludicrous it was. Then, would have been annoyed by it. Then would have likely had a beer, made dinner and got on with life. It's sport.
Investigations, calls for this and that is just daft and only reflects poorly on the person doing it in this situation.
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| Quote ="el red"Wellsy13, you are correct you are a top 8 team, you just aren't a top 4 team like most of your fans have been saying this year.
I like coaches being confident but sometimes talking it up sets you up for ridicule.
And before you jump on this I actually have always wanted both Hull teams to be better than the rest, i'd rather have a Hull KR v Hull FC final for everything. Although I would want Rovers to beat you all the time also.'"
Looking at the table, given we have won the last 8 in 9, why is it so crazy to suggest that Hull FC may get into the top 4 this year?
Would require us to keep winning and one of the top 4 to drop away, Huddesfield have a reputation of doing this, and Leeds i would put out of the question either, and we have a strong 6th place now and aside from yesterday's terrible performance, playing well.
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| To get the win was great, but to now listen to all you red and whites winging about it makes it ten times better for me. IN YOUR FACE!!!!
Oh yer, and Grudgehulls statement about Jon Sharp being Ex Hull FC... Wow, what a petty little man. Just can't help himself can he? Anyhow, keep it going lads, I know you're hurting and I'm lovin it.
God I hope Grudgehull reads this thread. AHAHAHAHAHA
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| Quote ="A Adler"To get the win was great, but to now listen to all you red and whites winging about it makes it ten times better for me. IN YOUR FACE!!!!
Oh yer, and Grudgehulls statement about Jon Sharp being Ex Hull FC... Wow, what a petty little man. Just can't help himself can he? Anyhow, keep it going lads, I know you're hurting and I'm lovin it.
God I hope Grudgehull reads this thread. AHAHAHAHAHA'"
Lordy lordy, its a bank holiday sunday.
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| Quote ="A Adler"To get the win was great, but to now listen to all you red and whites winging about it makes it ten times better for me. IN YOUR FACE!!!!
Oh yer, and Grudgehulls statement about Jon Sharp being Ex Hull FC... Wow, what a petty little man. Just can't help himself can he? Anyhow, keep it going lads, I know you're hurting and I'm lovin it.
God I hope Grudgehull reads this thread. AHAHAHAHAHA'"
its not just kr fans, every rugby league fan believes that try should not stand. its just you braindead edit that cant admit it. 1-1 so far with you edit too come too craven park, by by little man
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| Quote ="Gavin Miller - Legend"Have to agree.
No need to take a shot at Jon Sharp.'"
Yeah, I instinctively side with Hudgell, find most of the Grudgell stuff laughable, and accept that some of the things in that statement maybe had to be said - for domestic consumption, if nowt else. But some arguments dilute rather than add to your main point. That detracts, unfortunately.
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| Please cut out both the insults and the more provocative trolling now.
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| Quote ="Mild Rover"Yeah, [uI instinctively side with Hudgell[/u, find most of the Grudgell stuff laughable, and accept that some of the things in that statement maybe had to be said - for domestic consumption, if nowt else. But some arguments dilute rather than add to your main point. That detracts, unfortunately.'"
Now that is a tragedy.
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