Give over, 20 points less? We'd have scored 36 point's less if Hall didn't switch positions depending on whether we're defending or attacking, That's not to say Lovegrove (our top tackler) shouldn't get in the starting line-up.

Netherton is a great servant to the club and goes out giving 100%, He doesn't have to and many haven't (Clinton?), What more can we ask of him? He really doesn't deserve the derogatory comments he receives on this forum.

He's as good as he can be, but if all are fit he wouldnt feature. He may feature this weekend and put in a solid performance but we will never win a trophy with his like in the forwards. Dont get me wrong you always need players like nev who will step up with no grumbles. Its a squad after all.

We'll not win a trophy with a squad of people who couldn't give a toss if we win, lose or draw.

People like Nev and Murrell are just the players who always put in their all and while they may be weaker in area's than other squad members, their commitment cannot be questioned, When we're defending set after set on our own line, Netherton plays a big part in that whether he's involved in each tackle or not, Murrell on the other hand - "Fat, slow Murrell" who quite often gets the team spirit up with a great strong tackle on someone twice his size or a well timed 40/20 following a defensive onslaught.

Players like these are harder to replace than Ben Fisher or Clint Newton.

Think we'll agree to disagree.

But to counter that point.
Players like Nev will not make you the meters to take that same pressure off that he is so good at defending.
It is a double edged sword.
In defence he will make the tackles but in offence he won't get you away from your own line.
It all depends what you want I suppose.

A player that makes 5 less tackles but makes you 60/70/80 more meters over the course of a game has to play IMHO.

That's fair enough and very amicable of you, I'd prefer it to continued unnecessary disrespect of someone that's actually proud of their job and carried it out to the best of their ability.

Hell, I'd bet most on here don't put half into their jobs that Netherton does, whether they're absolutely amazing at it or not.

I do more than 110 per cent

You're argument is flawed, I'd explain but I can't be bothered.

Lovegrove attacks on the wing and rarely gets the ball, in attack. He moves into the middle to defend in place of Craig Hall, What's the difference between Netherton defending in the middle and not getting involved in the attack from our own line and Lovegrove defending in the middle and not getting involved in the attack from our own line?

The majority of my defence for Netherton is not his skill set or abilities but his team ethic and work rate, something that if shared by the other 12 people in the team on the pitch at the time would almost certainly make a trophy winning team. See any previous derby victories for examples.

Yeah but don't you work as a Physio? I think I'd put everything and more into that, too.



Ooft!

I see a spying Wire fan.

Hello Horatio Yed, you little sneak. Tell Tony Smith that our lineup will be much like last week but without some.

Ve have vays of making you lose

Well, That's quite true.

A fit 6&7?

Evans?

On form tonight

I and sum nursing on a weekend

Nethertons effort or commitment isn't in question, its his ability, he may well give his all, but his all isn't good enough, he doesn't make the yards he should, People go on about his defence, but last season he averaged 24 tackles a game.

I don't know about anyone else on here, but I am waiting (with more interest than other seasons) on the squad announcement wondering who Sandy is going to select at 7 & 9.

My source at Rovers has kept things pretty close to his chest this week and wouldn't even give a hint whether or not Withers or Josh would be fit or if Callum Taylor and Keal Carlile would be in the running. Similarly, I got a blank stare when I asked him if Lee, Bell or Beherral would be in at 7.

What he did say was Mika, McDonnell and Lovegrove have been training and he expects them to be in the 19.

I await the squad news with baited breath!

Based on Jason's performance for the U20s against Saints last week (we lost 20-10 in what was a cracking and bruising encounter) I thought he looked as though he had got his appetite back. Looking fitter and more mobile he did his cause no harm and it wouldn't surprise me to see him in todays 19 man squad.

I thought that Sam Jowesy, Lloyd Ofosi, George Griffin and Tyla Hepi were all more effective and certainly more aggresive than Jase Netherton against Saints u20s. I would accept that it must be hard for an established first grader to motivate himself to play at that level but i would expect as a bare minimum that he outplays the youngsters around him. He didnt. He will still be in the 19 though i reckon.

McDonnell, Hall, D. Hodgson, Clinton, Withers, Webster, Watts, Wheeldon, Taylor, Lovegrove, J. Hodgson, Paea, Horne, Murrell, Mika, Netherton, Cox, Welham, Latus. www.superleague.co.uk/preview/7472 Hmmm. Is that just last week's squad, up in error? Murrell? D. Hodgson?

McDonnell, Hall, D. Hodgson, Clinton, Withers, Webster, Watts, Wheeldon, Taylor, Lovegrove, J. Hodgson, Paea, Horne, Murrell, Mika, Netherton, Cox, Welham, Latus. www.superleague.co.uk/preview/7472 Hmmm. Is that just last week's squad, up in error? Murrell? D. Hodgson?

Add josh and withers to that???

We can replace any injured players in the 19 up to kick off with medical evidence. Maybe Sandercock doesnt want to show his hand. Could be a clever ploy.
Could also be that some wally has e-mailed the RFL last weeks squad.

This is the 19 man squad (with my added extras) as per the Stobart SL on-line site -

McDonnell, Hall, D. Hodgson(out for 4-6 wks), Clinton, Withers(doubtful), Webster, Watts, Wheeldon, Taylor, Lovegrove, J. Hodgson (doubtful), Paea, Horne, Murrell (out for 2 weeks), Mika, Netherton, Cox, Welham, Latus.

As you can see its an unchanged squad?

There has to be a mistake [iunless [/icertain players have made miraculous recoveries or been patched up or its the worst example of kidology I've ever seen!

I would go with the latter.

I hardly think Wire will be thrown into confusion with this announcement.