I feel sorry for you then. It certainly hits home how little strength in depth Hull really do have when they are forced to watch Moa play every week

Guess you're one of the Hull fans that seem to have a collective blind spot about his defending...bet Fisher can't wait to play against him again

Moa is ok, he does what feka did for Wigan. Probelm is that these are luxury players and you need strength around them to make up for there difficiencies in defence.

Fox isn't England, Briscoe is.
Houghton is class. Young, English hooking talent and still improving. Fisher isn't.

And I aren't even going to comment on the Wheeldon/Moa comment!

Wheeldon over Moa www.superleague.co.uk/statistics ... eason=2010 Moa is an excellent impact forward, one that I feel would do well in the NRL, I hop Hull sign him up on a loan term deal. Tickles a very good consistent player. Both him, Moa and Houghton would get into Rovers 17.

Wheeldon over Moa www.superleague.co.uk/statistics ... eason=2010 Moa is an excellent impact forward, one that I feel would do well in the NRL, I hop Hull sign him up on a loan term deal. Tickles a very good consistent player. Both him, Moa and Houghton would get into Rovers 17.

Quote ="Dave K."Wheeldon over Moa www.superleague.co.uk/statistics ... eason=2010 Moa is an excellent impact forward, one that I feel would do well in the NRL, I hop Hull sign him up on a loan term deal. Tickles a very good consistent player. Both him, Moa and Houghton would get into Rovers 17.'" That made me chuckle.

Quote ="Dave K."Wheeldon over Moa www.superleague.co.uk/statistics ... eason=2010 Moa is an excellent impact forward, one that I feel would do well in the NRL, I hop Hull sign him up on a loan term deal. Tickles a very good consistent player. Both him, Moa and Houghton would get into Rovers 17.'" That made me chuckle.

Quote ="Dave K."Wheeldon over Moa www.superleague.co.uk/statistics ... eason=2010 Moa is an excellent impact forward, one that I feel would do well in the NRL, I hop Hull sign him up on a loan term deal. Tickles a very good consistent player. Both him, Moa and Houghton would get into Rovers 17.'" I'd take Houghton in a heart beat. I can see what Moa does for your team, and he could make an impact at Rovers, although I still think he lacks fitness and manoeverability. Tickle wouldn't get into Rovers side, we have far better back row forwards than him, even if big Willie fails to appear.

Quote ="Dave K."Wheeldon over Moa www.superleague.co.uk/statistics ... eason=2010 Moa is an excellent impact forward, one that I feel would do well in the NRL, I hop Hull sign him up on a loan term deal. Tickles a very good consistent player. Both him, Moa and Houghton would get into Rovers 17.'" I'd take Houghton in a heart beat. I can see what Moa does for your team, and he could make an impact at Rovers, although I still think he lacks fitness and manoeverability. Tickle wouldn't get into Rovers side, we have far better back row forwards than him, even if big Willie fails to appear.

Quote ="Dave K."Wheeldon over Moa www.superleague.co.uk/statistics ... eason=2010 Moa is an excellent impact forward, one that I feel would do well in the NRL, I hop Hull sign him up on a loan term deal. Tickles a very good consistent player. Both him, Moa and Houghton would get into Rovers 17.'" Moa and Tickle? Give over. Mr stay puff would be sat in the reserves and we dont need Tickle as we already have a goal kicker thanks.

Quote ="Dave K."Wheeldon over Moa www.superleague.co.uk/statistics ... eason=2010 Moa is an excellent impact forward, one that I feel would do well in the NRL, I hop Hull sign him up on a loan term deal. Tickles a very good consistent player. Both him, Moa and Houghton would get into Rovers 17.'" Moa and Tickle? Give over. Mr stay puff would be sat in the reserves and we dont need Tickle as we already have a goal kicker thanks.

Quote ="Dave K."Wheeldon over Moa www.superleague.co.uk/statistics ... eason=2010 Moa is an excellent impact forward, one that I feel would do well in the NRL, I hop Hull sign him up on a loan term deal. Tickles a very good consistent player. Both him, Moa and Houghton would get into Rovers 17.'" You my friend are as blinkered as they come; Tickle is average at best now and cant see whos place he would take in the HKR line up. Moa is not "excellent" imo - feka was an excellent impact prop; again cant see whos place he would take as we play a different style of rugby to you, as you can see Wheeldon doesnt make the yards Moa does but certainly makes a better defensive player. Fisher for Houghton would be the only 1 i would take as hes younger, more skillful and going to be around alot longer (but fish has good experience) imo this is Fishers last year with us anyway.

Quote ="Dave K."Wheeldon over Moa www.superleague.co.uk/statistics ... eason=2010 Moa is an excellent impact forward, one that I feel would do well in the NRL, I hop Hull sign him up on a loan term deal. Tickles a very good consistent player. Both him, Moa and Houghton would get into Rovers 17.'" You my friend are as blinkered as they come; Tickle is average at best now and cant see whos place he would take in the HKR line up. Moa is not "excellent" imo - feka was an excellent impact prop; again cant see whos place he would take as we play a different style of rugby to you, as you can see Wheeldon doesnt make the yards Moa does but certainly makes a better defensive player. Fisher for Houghton would be the only 1 i would take as hes younger, more skillful and going to be around alot longer (but fish has good experience) imo this is Fishers last year with us anyway.

Dropped a lot of timber in pre-season, and his fitness is 110% better...also his off load is becoming a fantastic part of his game.

Danny Tickle average

What would you call him then? world class?
A player that wouldnt get in someone elses side cant be much more then average can he?

Please explain the concept of 110% fitness improvement.

Whiting Vs Shaun Briscoe
Sharp Vs Peter Fox
Manu Vs Kris Welham
Yeaman Vs Jake Webster
Briscoe Vs Liam Colbon
Turner Vs Blake Green
Long Vs Michael Dobson
O’Meley Vs Joel Clinton
Houghton Vs Ben Fisher
Lauaki Vs Mick Vella
Westerman Vs Clint Newton
Tickle Vs Ben Galea
Fitzgibbon Vs Scott Murrell

Moa Vs Scott Wheeldon
Cunningham Vs Josh Hodgson
Washbrook Vs Liam Watts
Lyne Vs Ben Cockayne


Would anyone make any changes to that?

He's the very definition of average when looking at the total pool of 2nd Row talent in SL. Only his goalkicking sets him aside, and we already have a statistically better kicker in our team.

Nah...I shall not bother

This post is 110% improvement on your usual drivel!

I would not make any changes...I do not see anything better on your list to what we already have tbh.

No but I've highlighted who i feel is better

Simple, he was 20% fit before, he is now 42% fit now, thats 110% improvement in fitness...

i wouldnt say clinton was better then o'meley but i would agree with the rest

Whiting Vs [uShaun Briscoe[/u (Real FB)
Sharp Vs [uPeter Fox[/u (Experience in the big games, and for now a better player)
Manu Vs [uKris Welham[/u (Only at centre, reckon his speed will make Manu too tired to do as much in attack)
Yeaman Vs [uJake Webster[/u (looking very good this pre season, and when fit he does look like he can produce great stuff)
[uBriscoe[/u Vs Liam Colbon (From the times ive seen him last season, and Colbon doesnt look like the player he was when starting out at HKR)
Turner Vs [uBlake Green[/u (again limited that weve seen green but looks like a gem, turner probs wont even be at the game)
Long Vs [uMichael Dobson[/u (our key man, even though long can produce the stuff i think his time as gone)
O’Meley Vs Joel Clinton (either or, im sure many can come up with many reasons why each is better)
[uHoughton[/u Vs Ben Fisher (not seen him this year but still think he takes some beating, Fish as got experience but not got the same skill)
Lauaki Vs [uMick Vella[/u (penalty machine Lauaki is still a complete liability)
Westerman Vs [uClint Newton[/u (imo Westerman will be a great player for FC but Newts size should keep him quiet - will be a very good contest)
Tickle Vs [uBen Galea[/u (brilliant rugby brain and cant see Tickle doing anything that Benny G cant handle)
[uFitzgibbon[/u Vs Scott Murrell (Complete leader, great player, against a better then average player who punches well above his weight - will be a good contest hopefully)

Moa Vs Scott Wheeldon (Again each to there own, Moa wouldnt suit HKR style of play but may make more impact off bench)
Cunningham Vs [uJosh Hodgson[/u (Not seen Cunningham but doesnt have the big game experience, does he?)
Washbrook Vs [uLiam Watts[/u (Future GB and should hammer the yards in coming off the bench against a tiring defence)
Lyne Vs [uBen Cockayne[/u (Better utility options if injuries play a part, more experienced, just needs a cool head - Lyne will be one to watch this season mind.)

Unbelievably deluded.

Understandable they only watch him play a few times a season....hence the little who is the better player list

you may think so yet I doubt you'll find many non FC fans who think much different. (goal kicking aside).