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| Part-time post, IMO. Sheens coaches Wests Tigers, iirc and Kearney is an assistant in the NRL, isn't he? Smith managed to combine the two this year, without too many problems - won the CC with his club and beat the World Champions with England. There is the club bias issue with squad selection, but that is the only problem I can see.
If they go for an Australian again, he'd be a good choice. It'd be a gamble for him to do it full-time, whereas part-time doubles his chance of success and England is, to use a snooker term, a bit of a shot to nothing nowadays.
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| Quote ="Mild Rover"Part-time post, IMO. Sheens coaches Wests Tigers, iirc and Kearney is an assistant in the NRL, isn't he? Smith managed to combine the two this year, without too many problems - won the CC with his club and beat the World Champions with England. There is the club bias issue with squad selection, but that is the only problem I can see.
If they go for an Australian again, he'd be a good choice. It'd be a gamble for him to do it full-time, whereas part-time doubles his chance of success and England is, to use a snooker term, a bit of a shot to nothing nowadays.'"
It has been stated in reports that it will be a full-time role, I agree with this club coaches become biased on their selection.
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| Quote ="Mild Rover"Part-time post, IMO. .'"
Alright decided that it is a full time post. Well unless they changed their minds again, and the RFL never do that!
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"morgan has zero profile in the NRL. do you think he'd have stayed at rovers if he could have got a gig at the top level in the world?'"
At the time he got the Rovers job he didn't, but don't you think Aussie clubs keep tabs on english coaches like they do the players ?
I reckon when the time comes and he wants to return home he will get a position within the NRL....don't you ?
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| Quote ="Bertie"At the time he got the Rovers job he didn't, but don't you think Aussie clubs keep tabs on english coaches like they do the players ?
I reckon when the time comes and he wants to return home he will get a position within the NRL....don't you ?'"
Dont think he would get a head coach role, would no doubt get a 2nd in command though.
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| It would definately be a massive loss for rovers.. But is it likely that he can achieve anything more in the next two or three years ... I doubt it looks like cash is drying up and the youth system in place isn't that good to draw on.. If offered a better job can't see why he would stay to be honest
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| Quote ="Chris1953"It would definately be a massive loss for rovers.. But is it likely that he can achieve anything more in the next two or three years ... I doubt it looks like cash is drying up and the youth system in place isn't that good to draw on.. If offered a better job can't see why he would stay to be honest'"
Just a bit of a poll but wondered if rovers went pop would it be a loss to super league?? I personally wouldn't stop laughing until we won at wembley and apparently that's a long way off???
Hull without rovers is a better place as far as I'm concerned!!
Seeing as your the f'kin moron who posted this on the FC site, we will ignore your post as biased $hite.
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| Guardian talks about somebody coming in to mentor the U-20 coach and suggests Agar for the latter role. That indicates, they say, that it won't be McDermott, Morgan or McNamara, who are his peers, more or less.
Quote ="Chris1953"It would definately be a massive loss for rovers.. But is it likely that he can achieve anything more in the next two or three years ... I doubt it looks like cash is drying up and the youth system in place isn't that good to draw on.. If offered a better job can't see why he would stay to be honest'"
If offered a better deal, anybody is going to look at moving. However, your characterization of Rovers as on the verge of stagnation at best or implosion at worst is, ahem, speculative. Hull fans seek to give every emphasis to anything resembling bad news coming out of CP, Rovers' fans look to down play it. The truth is likely somewhere in between and few, if any on here know it.
At Rovers Morgan has:
1. A lot of credit with the fans that he'll have to build up from scratch if and when he moves.
2. Continuity and the chance to build on his own foundations - not many coaches get to hang around that long.
3. A new contract and an apparently good relationship with his chairman.
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| Quote ="Mild Rover"Guardian talks about somebody coming in to mentor the U-20 coach and suggests Agar for the latter role. That indicates, they say, that it won't be McDermott, Morgan or McNamara, who are his peers, more or less.
If offered a better deal, anybody is going to look at moving. However, your characterization of Rovers as on the verge of stagnation at best or implosion at worst is, ahem, speculative. Hull fans seek to give every emphasis to anything resembling bad news coming out of CP, Rovers' fans look to down play it. The truth is likely somewhere in between and few, if any on here know it.
At Rovers Morgan has:
1. A lot of credit with the fans that he'll have to build up from scratch if and when he moves.
2. Continuity and the chance to build on his own foundations - not many coaches get to hang around that long.
3. A new contract and an apparently good relationship with his chairman.'"
I wouldn't bother, he is so blinded with bias and hatred for us its a waste of time trying to debate with him (or her)
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| Quote ="rover49"I wouldn't bother, he is so blinded with bias and hatred for us its a waste of time trying to debate with him (or her)'"
I was amazed to notice that he only has 186 posts. I'm sure he has started almost that many trolling threads on here.
At least fcimp has getting on for 3000, suggesting he might have made the odd non-trolling post.
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| Quote ="Chris1953"It would definately be a massive loss for rovers.. But is it likely that he can achieve anything more in the next two or three years ... I doubt it looks like cash is drying up and the youth system in place isn't that good to draw on.. If offered a better job can't see why he would stay to be honest'"
Would that be the youth system that finished above Hull FC last season.
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| Quote ="Gavin Miller - Legend"Would that be the youth system that finished above Hull FC last season.'" Doesn't matter, it's how many go on to become first team regulars and you know it.
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| Quote ="fcimp"Doesn't matter, it's how many go on to become first team regulars and you know it.'"
Absolutely
So he is wrong to say the youth system is not good enough to draw on then.
The fact they progressed last season indicates there is some talent amongst the youth system at the moment.
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| No Gavin, that's wrong. Although Hull's youth system is not as good as ours more of them are good enough to get in [utheir[/u first team.
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| So do rovers fans honestly think that with no further signings. The great coach that Morgan is ( and I do honestly believe that ) you will improve on last years performance? All I'm saying is in my opinion at the moment rovers will not better last years, possibly even the year befores achievements.
Morgan can only do so much with the resources he has and until you replace at least two missing props u will struggle to do better...
Now can any of you honestly say that this is not true??
In short... With no further signings I don't think Morgan can do better than he has done so he may as well get off while the goings good
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| Quote ="Chris1953"So do rovers fans honestly think that with no further signings. The great coach that Morgan is ( and I do honestly believe that ) you will improve on last years performance? All I'm saying is in my opinion at the moment rovers will not better last years, possibly even the year befores achievements.
Morgan can only do so much with the resources he has and until you replace at least two missing props u will struggle to do better...
Now can any of you honestly say that this is not true??
In short... With no further signings I don't think Morgan can do better than he has done so he may as well get off while the goings good'" i for one think we will replace the 2 props that have gone and maybe another 1 or 2 faces as for finishing 4th im not sure but we will make the play offs and then who knows???????????????
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| Quote ="Chris1953"So do rovers fans honestly think that with no further signings. The great coach that Morgan is ( and I do honestly believe that ) you will improve on last years performance? All I'm saying is in my opinion at the moment rovers will not better last years, possibly even the year befores achievements.
Morgan can only do so much with the resources he has and until you replace at least two missing props u will struggle to do better...
Now can any of you honestly say that this is not true??
In short... With no further signings I don't think Morgan can do better than he has done so he may as well get off while the goings good'"
He's going nowhere, and that must really, really annoy you. As you know, as long as you have Agar and we have Morgan, you will be trailling in our wake.
Jog on pathetic troll.
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| Quote ="The Goroka Gene-ius"He's going nowhere, and that must really, really annoy you. As you know, as long as you have Agar and we have Morgan, you will be trailling in our wake.
Jog on pathetic troll.'"
sorry was that an answer or are you avoiding the question?? Morgan is unlikely to see more success in the next two years.. Now would be a good time to go
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| Quote ="Chris1953"sorry was that an answer or are you avoiding the question?? Morgan is unlikely to see more success in the next two years.. Now would be a good time to go'"
Sorry, is that a question, or wishful West Hull thinking?
(Can't believe I put "thinking" & "West Hull" in the same sentence).
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| Quote ="The Goroka Gene-ius"He's going nowhere, and that must really, really annoy you. As you know, as long as you have Agar and we have Morgan, you will be trailling in our wake.
Jog on pathetic troll.'"
£900,000 in two years says that morgan is taking up a massive chunk of cash each year to pay his wages....just a matter of time
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| It's just a matter of time with most coaches.
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| I think Morgans wise enough to know exactly whats going on at rovers (if anything) with the finances. If it's looking grim and he knows he's going to have to operate for a few years with a weak squad now would be an ideal chance to jump with his reputation at it's peak. It's all well and good getting up there but you've got to know when to step off. If he gets it right he'll secure work for himself for years to come off the back of what he's achieved at craven park. Even if he cocks up a few jobs in the meantime this bit of success will also ensure people will take a chance on him.
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