If I was to be harsh I might say that a player that never tries anything rarely makes mistakes.

I don't disagree that he has been a loyal servant to the club and a very consistent player. However I would put Macca in the front row before Jason any day of the week. Bringing Macca off the bench last Sunday could have won us the game, bringing Jason on won't change the result of a game.

All teams need the steadying influence and hard graft of players like Jason, but a prop forward has to be able to break a tackle or get an offload in and Jason don't do that. It is an obvious area we can look to improve the squad. Maybe he has the time and ability to improve in certain areas and if he can fine, I don't have any particular axe to grind here.

p.s I hope he makes me eat my words and scores ten tries between now and the end of the season

I tend to agree, apart from the last penalty he commited! He piggybacked Wigan up the field, who then went on to score with a needless interference on the 4th tackle. Stupid play really.

I think players like Netherton are your bread and butter type players and every team has them. I compare him to Mike Bennett of St Helens when he played. He's worth keeping for next year is Netherton

Macca wont play this weekend either.

Any reason?

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Maybe its just me but I personally don't think Fozzard is one of our best props, big name maybe but hasn't cut the mustard all season. He rarely seems to break the line, nothing in way of off loads (ok I know thats never been his game) and offers little in way of quick play the ball, he looks the part but just isn't doing it for me. I'd go as far as saying Wheeldon offers far more than fozzard. I'd personally think giving Liam Watts a run would be a better option.

Seriously think the emperor isn't wearing any clothes....

Been garbage in the reserves might be what hes getting at i dont know

Not a good enough reason as Mr Gekko pointed out earlier.

I think Foz has done a fine job for us and due to the injury to Vella, Foz for me has possibly been our best prop. Wheeldon has done a decent job for us and has earned his place in the first 17 but he certainly hasn't out performed Foz IMO.

Maybe it is a good enough reason to other people though...

i personally think Gord is right that the reserve grade is dire, but if someone plays garbage when they should be showing they are better then that grade of rugby, then surely they shouldnt be promoted into the 1st team because of that? they should be seen by all that they are too good and should be in the 1st team.

Tend to agree with that, but to me Fozzard is getting overplayed and will burnout pretty soon if he doesn't get a rest. What are Mills and Esders doing rotting in the reserves.. more so Esders.. Give him a chance!

A Wheeldon Vella starting partnership with a Fozzard Lovegrove interchange is probably what we need at this time of the season. Makka and Mills are two very good players to have as back up and with Netherton coming off the bench to cover a few different positions it wouldnt be such a bad idea.

Saying that once Colby comes back Cockayne and I'm guessing Fitzhenry will be the ones coming off the bench...hmmmmm