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| Quote ="cravenpark1"BOG OF
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You're a bog of depression?
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| Quote ="Sheldon"We've out bidded you.
Lovegrove rumoured to be in advanced talks with us as well.'"
Rovers didn't go passed an enquiry for Paea once his wage demand was known but loosely the same thing.
We were never going to pay a forward more then our play maker.
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| Quote ="Gavin Miller - Legend"Rovers didn't go passed an enquiry for Paea once his wage demand was known but loosely the same thing.
We were never going to pay a forward more then our play maker.'"
So do you think dobson is on less,than 160k ?
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| Quote ="Gavin Miller - Legend"Rovers didn't go passed an enquiry for Paea once his wage demand was known but loosely the same thing.
We were never going to pay a forward more then our play maker.'"
It's a strange practice if it costs you a player you can fit under the cap.
If you have a average to good play maker and a truly world class player became available it would be a ridiculous stance to have.
It would be even worse if you had got your play maker for a bargin.
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| Quote ="Pjhoe"So do you think dobson is on less,than 160k ?'"
It's all speculation, but I wouldn't be at all surprised - that is 10% of the total cap. Much as I'd be envious of you signing L. Paea, if you're really paying that (rather than it just being paper talk) it is too much.
No wonder contracted players are putting in transfer requests - it must seem like they're missing out on a ooc gold-rush.
I'm beginning to suspect there may be an agent-fuelled over compensation going on. If Bradford's seemingly inevitable administration drags on, it'll change the dynamic again. Difficult year to be re-building with so much uncertainty - I guess it offers opportunities as well as dangers.
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| Quote ="Pjhoe"So do you think dobson is on less,than 160k ?'"
Yes.
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| Quote ="Mild Rover"It's all speculation, but I wouldn't be at all surprised - that is 10% of the total cap. Much as I'd be envious of you signing L. Paea, if you're really paying that (rather than it just being paper talk) it is too much.
No wonder contracted players are putting in transfer requests - it must seem like they're missing out on a ooc gold-rush.
I'm beginning to suspect there may be an agent-fuelled over compensation going on. If Bradford's seemingly inevitable administration drags on, it'll change the dynamic again. Difficult year to be re-building with so much uncertainty - I guess it offers opportunities as well as dangers.'"
L Paea asking for that kind of money pretty much confirms what most of us thought.
There is going to be a HUGE increase in the amounts that none EU players are going to be asking for.
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| How do people know who earns what are been offered?
Or is it just guess work?
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| Quote ="Dave K."How do people know who earns what are been offered?
Or is it just guess work?'"
Regards L. Paea, the number is from a newspaper story, I think. Not that that means it is reliable. My input is 100% guesswork.
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| I was told by someone on Rovers board that the value of Paea's package at Hull was in the region of £160k. This does not necessarily mean he's on that much cash though. Although, do other benefits (car, house) count on the cap ?
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| Quote ="Largeparts"I was told by someone on Rovers board that the value of Paea's package at Hull was in the region of £160k. This does not necessarily mean he's on that much cash though. Although, do other benefits (car, house) count on the cap ?'"
Yep.
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| Evarn Tuimavave on a two year deal.
Or so im told.
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| Quote ="Largeparts"I was told by someone on Rovers board that the value of Paea's package at Hull was in the region of £160k. This does not necessarily mean he's on that much cash though. Although, do other benefits (car, house) count on the cap ?'" Everything on a deal has to be added to a clubs cap even bonuses otherwise if everything gets triggered (due to a stella season) your bonuses would take you over the cap.
I believe Saints have been stung by that trap before.
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| Quote ="Anakin Skywalker"Everything on a deal has to be added to a clubs cap even bonuses otherwise if everything gets triggered (due to a stella season) your bonuses would take you over the cap.
I believe Saints have been stung by that trap before.'"
There's a live cap now so the club can't dish out contracts which could take them over the cap. Having said that, we all know that there are ways and means of paying players what you want. I doubt pearson wants to increase player spend at Hull so can't see us paying people outside the normal salary bill. Wouldn't be surprised if o'mealy were on £140k+ anyway so paea for a similar amount looks like good business to me. Hull are losing some big earners so have cash to play with. Was reported mckinnon was on £140k, plus o'mealy and manu, moa etc. and tehre should be plenty in the pot
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Could he come straight away?
You've got cap space and he's available.
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Could he come straight away?
You've got cap space and he's available.
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| Quote ="Sheldon"Could he come straight away?
You've got cap space and he's available.'"
I don't think we have any quota space, and you know how tetchy everyone gets with us when we start messing with that particular kettle of fish.
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| Ervan is a decent, old fashioned prop who does his share of hit ups, can off load well, and tackles well in the middle.
He came to the Knights from the Warriors on an incentive contract because he had missed most of the season before with a neck injury that looked like ending his career.
He is not a star, but he does a workman like job every week at prop.
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| Quote ="roopy"Ervan is a decent, old fashioned prop who does his share of hit ups, can off load well, and tackles well in the middle.
He came to the Knights from the Warriors on an incentive contract because he had missed most of the season before with a neck injury that looked like ending his career.
He is not a star, but he does a workman like job every week at prop.'"
Is he better than Garret Crossman?
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| Quote ="bishops finger"Is he better than Garret Crossman?'"
Top player.
He actually got worse for Souths.
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| Quote ="Sheldon"Top player.
He actually got worse for Souths.'"
Crossman was nothing but a big , lumbering pudding.
What was JM thinking ?
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| Ervan has played nearly 150 NRL games and 1 test for NZ.
He was pretty lucky to get a test, because he isn't that standard, but he has been a good, honest NRL performer and is still at just about his best.
He is good for 90-100 metres per game and 15-20 tackles in 60 odd minutes. He does have a very good off load and a pretty fast play the ball because of his low centre of gravity. Not a big guy, but strong and chunky.
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| Quote ="bishops finger"Is he better than Garret Crossman?'"
im better than crossman ![Laughing icon_lol.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_lol.gif)
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| Quote ="fun time frankie"im better than crossman
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You maybe are Joel, but let's be honest you've not really given value foe money, and the time has come to call it a day. ![Wink icon_wink.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_wink.gif)
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| One of my clients (who knows nowt about RL) is good friends with Danny Broughs family and commented today that he was hoping to sign for one of the Hull clubs, I asked which one and he said 'not sure, but it's one of them'
He is going to ask tonight
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