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| Kurt Sorensen when he played,ryan bailey,danny mcguire(I wish we had him)
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| Quote ="garroway"You got your hair dye sorted for next year?'"
Hey don't knock it - as a lucky charm it sure worked this season.
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| Ben Cockayne...Because of 'that' video.(still puzzles me how fans chant his name!)
Ryan Bailey...Just a to@@er.
Kevin Sinfield/Matt Diskin/Paul Wellens...Always on at the ref if the games not going their way.
Jon Clarke...Just smug.
Paul Cooke...Why else!
Glenn Morrison...Just a plank who couldn't back his mouth up.
Tommy Lee/Craig Hall...Frustrated more because they never used their bags of talent they have.
The list could be endless but most would not be hated, just dislike because they always have Hulls pants down when they play against them.
And for the record, hate is a strong word, I hate none of the above apart from no#1 in the list!
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| Quote ="garroway"Ben Cockayne...Because of 'that' video.([ustill puzzles me how fans chant his name![/u)
Ryan Bailey...Just a to@@er.
Kevin Sinfield/Matt Diskin/Paul Wellens...Always on at the ref if the games not going their way.
Jon Clarke...Just smug.
Paul Cooke...Why else!
Glenn Morrison...Just a plank who couldn't back his mouth up.
Tommy Lee/Craig Hall...Frustrated more because they never used their bags of talent they have.
The list could be endless but most would not be hated, just dislike because they always have Hulls pants down when they play against them.
And for the record, hate is a strong word, I hate none of the above apart from no#1 in the list!'"
1. Very few people know the full story.
2. He's paid his debt to society
3. He appears to have straightened himself out on and off the pitch
4. He's a very committed and hard-working RL player and the fans appreciate that
5. He loves playing for Hull KR and cares about the club/fans, highlighted by him (reportedly) reduced to tears by the ovation at the end of the Wigan game the other week, + his excellent gesture of giving his match boots away to a young fan.
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| These players we love to hate,what would we think if they signed for our club?
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| Quote ="barton baird"These players we love to hate,what would we think if they signed for our club?'"
We would love and praise them, as all sports fans do once a player makes the switch to their club.
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| Quote ="Roofs"1. Very few people know the full story.
2. He's paid his debt to society
3. He appears to have straightened himself out on and off the pitch
4. He's a very committed and hard-working RL player and the fans appreciate that
5. He loves playing for Hull KR and cares about the club/fans, highlighted by him (reportedly) reduced to tears by the ovation at the end of the Wigan game the other week, + his excellent gesture of giving his match boots away to a young fan.'" Got his flash backs sorted then?
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| Quote ="garroway"Got his flash backs sorted then?'"
Would seem so aye.
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| They used to have this feature in the HDM every week. It always seemed to be Barry McDermott. As a player he fitted the bill perfectly, but now he appears universally liked. Splendid fellow.
anyway, most of my list is from pre-SL:
Andy Fisher - anyone remember him on RL Raw (Dewsbury v Rovers) slagging us off in the dressing room for singing our version of "Old Faithful" during a play off game (2001?)
Gareth Handforth - ten bellied to$$pot who was a central plank of the Donny headhunters.
Richard Chapman - probably 'cos he always played well against us.
Barry Eaton - see above
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Kirk Yeaman, by some considerable distance, although it makes it all the sweeter to watch him playing in Jake Webster's pocket during derbies.
Ghandi - coward who runs 40 yards to smack someone from behind
Ben Westwood and his ten foot chin.
Just compiling this list has raised my blood pressure!
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| Quote ="Roofs"1.[i[u Very few people know the full story.[/u[/i
2. He's paid his debt to society
3. He appears to have straightened himself out on and off the pitch
4. He's a very committed and hard-working RL player and the fans appreciate that
5. He loves playing for Hull KR and cares about the club/fans, highlighted by him (reportedly) reduced to tears by the ovation at the end of the Wigan game the other week, + his excellent gesture of giving his match boots away to a young fan.'"
The full story.
Hmm. Correct me if I'm wrong, but here's how I've interpreted "the full story":
Ben goes to a pub in Normanton and gets drunk. Some bloke comes on to one of the girls in the pub and Ben and his mate lose it. They attack said bloke hitting him to the ground then proceed to kick 10 bells out of him. Leaving him prostrate on the ground they walk away, but Ben returns for a second pedifrenzied attack, even though his partner in crime tries to pull him back this time.
Ben is caught, and his horror he is charged with ABH. So he illegally visits the victim and is accused by the court of trying pervert the course of justice by trying to arrange a "financial "deal. He is later cleared of the perversion charge.
After being found guilty of the attack, however, Ben is locked up for 2 nights as the judge tries to decide on his sentence. He given a 12 month gaol sentence for the horrific attack which is suspended for 2 years and has to work for 240 hours unpaid in the community.
Hull Daily Mail [url=http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8087269299720147944#provides video evidence[/url, but warns viewers before seeing:
"WARNING - This video contains scenes of graphic violence."
Rovers decide not to sack him and he remains a player to this day.
That's a pretty full story. But I'd be delighted to know of any further details we all seem to have missed.
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| Quote ="WormInHand"The full story.
Hmm. Correct me if I'm wrong'"
Willingly. You neglect to mention said victim attacking the girl prior to Cockayne's attack on him, which was a conveinient ommision on your part to suit your agenda.
You also mislead the perverting the course of justice part, given that it was the "victim" who approached Ben (not the other way around as per your version).
Apart from that, spot on, possibly 60% of your summary is accurate. Do you work in the local media?
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| Quote ="SirStan"Willingly. You neglect to mention said victim attacking the girl prior to Cockayne's attack on him, which was a conveinient ommision on your part to suit your agenda.
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Did he? that wasn't in any of the media reports I read. Care to provide a link?
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You also mislead the perverting the course of justice part, given that it was the "victim" who approached Ben (not the other way around as per your version).
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Did he? I said Ben visited the victim in order for the two to discuss a resolution. I don't know who instigated this and didn't allude to that. Bit irrelevant, though, any meeting was illegal, regardless.
So, in lieu of a link, which other bits of the story has the world missed which goes someway to exonerating Ben? Perhaps Roofs can contribute?
No, I don't work in the local media. Do you?
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| Quote ="WormInHand"Did he? that wasn't in any of the media reports I read. Care to provide a link?
Did he? I said Ben visited the victim in order for the two to discuss a resolution. I don't know who instigated this and didn't allude to that. Bit irrelevant, though, any meeting was illegal, regardless.
So, in lieu of a link, which other bits of the story has the world missed which goes someway to exonerating Ben? Perhaps Roofs can contribute?
No, I don't work in the local media. Do you?'"
You appear to read the Hull Daily S**t, enough said really.
I heard the victim had been assaulting random people in pubs that night, + what's already been said about you getting the story wrong.
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| Quote ="Roofs"You appear to read the Hull Daily S**t, enough said really.
=#000080I heard the victim had been assaulting random people in pubs that night, + what's already been said about you getting the story wrong.'"
'Kay, Roofs. I'll believe what "you heard" instead of the reports in the Guardian, Independent, Times, BBC..... and, of course, the HDM.
Of course - if what you heard [iis[/i true, that makes it all ok then, and the nasty police should never have taken Ben away?
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| Quote ="WormInHand"The full story.
Hmm. Correct me if I'm wrong, but here's how I've interpreted "the full story":
Ben goes to a pub in Normanton and gets drunk. Some bloke comes on to one of the girls in the pub and Ben and his mate lose it. They attack said bloke hitting him to the ground then proceed to kick 10 bells out of him. Leaving him prostrate on the ground they walk away, but Ben returns for a second pedifrenzied attack, even though his partner in crime tries to pull him back this time.
Ben is caught, and his horror he is charged with ABH. So he illegally visits the victim and is accused by the court of trying pervert the course of justice by trying to arrange a "financial "deal. He is later cleared of the perversion charge.
After being found guilty of the attack, however, Ben is locked up for 2 nights as the judge tries to decide on his sentence. He given a 12 month gaol sentence for the horrific attack which is suspended for 2 years and has to work for 240 hours unpaid in the community.
Hull Daily Mail [url=http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8087269299720147944#provides video evidence[/url, but warns viewers before seeing:
"WARNING - This video contains scenes of graphic violence."
Rovers decide not to sack him and he remains a player to this day.
That's a pretty full story. But I'd be delighted to know of any further details we all seem to have missed.'"
He has been dealt with, what do you want have him re-tried, hang him and stick his head on a spike. Maybe afterwards you could slaughter his mam and dad as well, that'll teach him.
Lets face it, you wouldn't give a toss if he played for anyone else. If you had a player that played with such passion and had so much love for his club (and I don't mean the odd badge kissing arsole) you'd be cheering him as well.
What he did was wrong, but he has been through the judicial process and has been punished, lets face it your beef about Rovers not sacking him is a bit hollow, your club signed a lowlife cheat.
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| Quote ="rover49"He has been dealt with, what do you want have him re-tried, hang him and stick his head on a spike. Maybe afterwards you could slaughter his mam and dad as well, that'll teach him.
Lets face it, you wouldn't give a toss if he played for anyone else. If you had a player that played with such passion and had so much love for his club (and I don't mean the odd badge kissing arsole) you'd be cheering him as well.
What he did was wrong, but he has been through the judicial process and has been punished, lets face it your beef about Rovers not sacking him is a bit hollow, your club signed a lowlife cheat.'" As well as a wife beater, Didn't they also keep a player on after he got done for assault themselves..........Oh hang on didn't that case also involve racial undertones as well, then of course the was the fact that Cooke wasn't even shown the door after how many times did he have a scrape with the law?.
It isn't so much as a pot calling the kettle black its more like charcoal calling the kettle black.
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| Worm in hand :
Perhaps you could provide the stories behind certain players you seem to have "forgotten".
A certain current forward convicted of violence in Oz before your club signed him for example. An ex winger kept on despite a racial assault and a player signed a week after your club gave over pre match advert for domestic assault victims.
The list goes on but apparently only one players indiscretions seem to occupy your thoughts.
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| So reading the above,I only have to presume rugby players arn`t angels?
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| If this is a pantomime boo-hiss type of thread, it can stay. If it is going to be a morally out-raged mudslinging one, it can't. Please discuss discuss RL players in the context of RL. For example Danny Tickle wound me up a bit in the first derby this year - as a RL player I 'hated' him (over it now, but), but I didn't hate Danny Tickle the person. Let's leave that rubbish at the door please.
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| To be fair Mild Rover I think "hate" is used to describe a certain players type of play,or personality on the pitch. As I don`t know any player personaly I can not say I hate them.They are probably perfectly decent fellows off the pitch.
(Except maybe a couple of exceptions.)
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| Quote ="Mild Rover"If this is a pantomime boo-hiss type of thread, it can stay. If it is going to be a morally out-raged mudslinging one, it can't. Please discuss discuss RL players in the context of RL. For example Danny Tickle wound me up a bit in the first derby this year - as a RL player I 'hated' him (over it now, but), but I didn't hate Danny Tickle the person. Let's leave that rubbish at the door please.'"
No RL fan should hate (in the proper sense of the word) any RL player unless they have been personally wronged by him.
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