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| Quote ="Enlightened"Quote ="10-5"belive me.if dobson was wearing black and white last season,you lot would never shut up raving about him.the guy is class.[/quote
I believe most Wigan, Catalan and Rovers fans would be in agreeement on that one. Most dull fans will have only seen him behind a beaten pack in our worst display of the season at KC and half a game ( before the walk) when he dominated the Craven Park derby with his stand off partner.'" '"
Plus the sky games.
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| Is Rob Burrow.
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| Quote ="Wildmoose"The two stand out halfs in the competition (Burrow & Long) get to play behind dominant packs. When Rovers pack were on song Dobson produced some excellent performances, when his forwards were getting outplayed he was anonymous. This is the case with most halfs.
For more than half the season we only had 3 props. Not being able to rotate or rest then led to some very tired performances & we got outmuscled too often. I think this is partly why we could perform one week, but not back it up the next. It was noticable how the team (& Dobson) improved when Makali came back. Next term we will have an extra prop, as well as Newton & Walker returning & Webster fully fit, all players who give us a much greater physical edge.
Burrow & Long aside, I think Dobson is as good as any other half in the competition. Given a more dominant set of forwards to play behind & I think there's every chance he will prove it.'"
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| Quote ="Wildmoose"The two stand out halfs in the competition (Burrow & Long) get to play behind dominant packs. When Rovers pack were on song Dobson produced some excellent performances, when his forwards were getting outplayed he was anonymous. This is the case with most halfs.
For more than half the season we only had 3 props. Not being able to rotate or rest then led to some very tired performances & we got outmuscled too often. I think this is partly why we could perform one week, but not back it up the next. It was noticable how the team (& Dobson) improved when Makali came back. Next term we will have an extra prop, as well as Newton & Walker returning & Webster fully fit, all players who give us a much greater physical edge.
Burrow & Long aside, I think Dobson is as good as any other half in the competition. Given a more dominant set of forwards to play behind & I think there's every chance he will prove it.'"
How many forwards did Saints have out at the start of the season?
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| Quote ="ash4hullfc"How many forwards did Saints have out at the start of the season?'"
Most of them, which is why the lost 5 times in the opening rounds. When the forwards started to return they started winning again. Even players as good as Long & Pryce can't do much behind a struggling pack.
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| Quote ="Wildmoose"Most of them, which is why the lost 5 times in the opening rounds. When the forwards started to return they started winning again. Even players as good as Long & Pryce can't do much behind a struggling pack.'"
Long still helped Saints win games with a beaten and depleted pack, something which Dobson failed to do.
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| Quote ="ash4hullfc"Long still helped Saints win games with a beaten and depleted pack, something which Dobson failed to do.'"
Not many. When Saints forwards were dropping like flies they scraped late home wins at home to Wakey & Hull, then lost 4 of the next 5. Compare that form with the 20 odd wins on the bounce that followed.
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| Can you honestly say that you think dobson will be better than long, burrow, deacon, monaghan, leuluia? i have seen nothing in his 2 or 3 good games to see this. And if were going on just potential then myler will be better than all of them!!
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| Can't believe the bull on this thread.
I think Dobson was much better than he was given credit for west of the river ( where he was obviously slated for the way he ended up in East Hull). However, he is nowhere near the top of the pile in SL. He wil be lucky to be considered top 6 next season, however he does have time on his side.
With good coaching and the right attitude, he could be termed as great within 5 years.
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| If Hull had managed to sign him he would have a 400 page thread by now stating he was the best scrum half in the universe
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| Quote ="east hull FC fan"Can you honestly say that you think dobson will be better than long, burrow, deacon, monaghan, leuluia? i have seen nothing in his 2 or 3 good games to see this. And if were going on just potential then myler will be better than all of them!!'" which "2 or 3 good games" do you mean? 12 tries,19 goals,2 drop goals in 13 apperances (for a new team) says he`s not bad.
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| im hoping for big things from Dobson next season, with a good pre season lets hope he can lead us on to bigger and better things,
Burrows is quick and tricky, but hes no passer and not the best kickereither IMO
Long a bit passed it now,
Deacon, great passing and kicking, but no pace
Monaghan drifts in and out far to much
Danny Brough, maybe at a top side could be the best in the S/L
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| Quote ="tonylRobin"im hoping for big things from Dobson next season, with a good pre season lets hope he can lead us on to bigger and better things,
Burrows is quick and tricky, but hes no passer and not the best kickereither IMO
Long a bit passed it now,
Deacon, great passing and kicking, but no pace
Monaghan drifts in and out far to much
Danny Brough, maybe at a top side could be the best in the S/L'"
Think Burrows has a very good in all departments, even in defence.
Long is certainly not passed it, still one of best about.
I would also Deacon reads the game very well.
Your probably right about Monaghan this season.
I dont think much of Brough at all, very good kicking game though.
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| Quote ="tonylRobin"im hoping for big things from Dobson next season, with a good pre season lets hope he can lead us on to bigger and better things,
Burrows is quick and tricky, but hes no passer and not the best kickereither IMO
Long a bit passed it now,
Deacon, great passing and kicking, but no pace
Monaghan drifts in and out far to much
Danny Brough, maybe at a top side could be the best in the S/L'" Sherwin gets crimanally over looked when discussing scrum halfs in SL even though he is 1 of the best IMO.
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| Quote ="Rupert Pupkin"
I dont think much of Brough at all, very good kicking game though.'"
Brough and dobson are very similar in that they have a kicking game and not much else. If brough was playing for rovers this would be the "Brough is the best in superleague thread" and to be honest he has proved himself in super league more than dobson has.
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| shame you lot didnt see his potential i guess
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| Quote ="Willa"Brough and dobson are very similar in that they have a kicking game and not much else. If brough was playing for rovers this would be the "Brough is the best in superleague thread" and to be honest he has proved himself in super league more than dobson has.'"
To be fair they are both better than the scrum halfs playing for your club.
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| Quote ="Rupert Pupkin"To be fair they are both better than the scrum halfs playing for your club.'"
considering we don't have one yes I agree Dobson and Brough are better than nothing.
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| Quote ="tonylRobin"shame you lot didnt see his potential i guess'"
The vast majority of us did, this said I would not want him back as I would like to see hull sign a quality scrum half.
I also think you miss understood me I didn't say brough was good, in fact I said he had a good kicking game and nothing else.
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| Quote ="tonylRobin"shame you lot didnt see his potential i guess'"
They did, in fact there board started negotiations with him........
we finished them
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| Quote ="Enlightened"They did, in fact there board started negotiations with him........
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Just like you finished Cookies career
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| AFAIK, Cooke is signed on for 2009.
Now Richard Horne thats a different matter......
HTH
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| TBH; I don't care if we have the best anything in super league. As long as we have good players giving thier all for the cause; we'll do OK.
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| Quote ="Enlightened"AFAIK, Cooke is signed on for 2009.
Now Richard Horne thats a different matter......
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No point in rushing, we what to make sure that everything is right for us and the player.
Rushing a signing could mean signing a bad apple and a player that the coach and other players dont want.
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| Quote ="Dave K."No point in rushing, we what to make sure that everything is right for us and the player.
Rushing a signing could mean signing a bad apple and a player that the coach and other players dont want.
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What i can't understand about the Horne deal is why it still hasn't been finalised and announced. It has been some while now since his condition was made public and if both parties are as keen to bottom the deal as they make out there is no apparrent reason for it to have not been signed.
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