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| Quote ="Gavin Miller - Legend"Only irrelevant if you choose to ignore them.
Actually if you read back I offered no reasoning on either attack or defense in the early part of the thread in respect of my personal view.
What I did was prove Welham has a better attacking record then Yeaman after you said they were on a par
No nerves hit here at all, again read back and as is normally the case with you when your losing a debate you start to get all y.
If you think being called Waynetta is offensive then I shake my head in disbelief having seen how you respond to people on this site at times.'"
It is irrelevant whether I find your comments offensive or not, you are clearly aware that it is against the AUP to call people names as you have banned several people for name calling on this board, now what I find difficult to grasp here is why you are doing it ?...I can only assume you are abusing your position of a moderator.If you persist in calling me names I shall take my grievance to Administration.
I am not losing a debate here, you lost the debate a few pages ago. Your original statement was that Yeaman is not the best left centre in this city! you then dragged up stats from the last 3 years to try and prove the point that Welham is better offensively than Yeamon, [uI clearly pointed out this years squad were picked on last seasons performances [/uand Welham had only scored 1 more try than Yeaman, hence offensively last season they were on par.
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| Sorry, this is boring.
Is there a way to stop a thread from bringing up a golden page thing? My OCD mean's I can't ignore them but this is seriously dull, I may find myself watching "I'm a Z-list Celebrity".
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| Quote ="Marfa Manu"It is irrelevant whether I find your comments offensive or not, you are clearly aware that it is against the AUP to call people names as you have banned several people for name calling on this board, now what I find difficult to grasp here is why you are doing it ?...I can only assume you are abusing your position of a moderator.If you persist in calling me names I shall take my grievance to Administration.
I am not losing a debate here, you lost the debate a few pages ago. Your original statement was that Yeaman is not the best left centre in this city! you then dragged up stats from the last 3 years to try and prove the point that Welham is better offensively than [size=150Yeamon[/size, [uI clearly pointed out this years squad were picked on last seasons performances [/uand Welham had only scored 1 more try than Yeaman, hence offensively last season they were on par.'"
Is this Kirk's Caribbean brother? Yea Mon!
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| Quote ="dum-dum"Is this Kirk's Caribbean brother? Yea Mon!'"
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| Quote ="Marfa Manu"It is irrelevant whether I find your comments offensive or not, you are clearly aware that it is against the AUP to call people names as you have banned several people for name calling on this board, now what I find difficult to grasp here is why you are doing it ?...I can only assume you are abusing your position of a moderator.If you persist in calling me names I shall take my grievance to Administration.
I am not losing a debate here, you lost the debate a few pages ago. Your original statement was that Yeaman is not the best left centre in this city! you then dragged up stats from the last 3 years to try and prove the point that Welham is better offensively than Yeamon, [uI clearly pointed out this years squad were picked on last seasons performances [/uand Welham had only scored 1 more try than Yeaman, hence offensively last season they were on par.'"
Obviously it annoys you so hopefully you will be more considerate in your own posts in the future
A lesson learned perhaps.
McNamaras decision may have also been decided by Yeamans greater experiance as having made the decision to pick Reed 2 rookie centres at international level would of been a risk.
I'm more then capable of having a debate but its a pointless exercise with somebody who won't accept another point of view.
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| Quote ="dum-dum"Sorry, this is boring.
Is there a way to stop a thread from bringing up a golden page thing? My OCD mean's I can't ignore them but this is seriously dull, I may find myself watching "I'm a Z-list Celebrity".'"
Yeaman would be great on I'm a Celebrity. He suits a jungle hat, he would be good at chopping wood for the fire, and would provide numerous "blonde" moments.
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| Quote ="Gavin Miller - Legend"McNamaras decision may have also been decided by Yeamans greater experiance as having made the decision to pick Reed 2 rookie centres at international level would of been a risk.'"
A collection of RL journalists voted Yeaman as the Dream Team centre alongside Carmont this year too. I wouldn't try and make out it's only McNamara that rates him the better centre currently, as that would be plain wrong.
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"Yeaman would be great on I'm a Celebrity. He suits a jungle hat, he would be good at chopping wood for the fire, and would provide numerous "blonde" moments.'"
Plus he wouldn't have to wear many clothes. TV Gold!
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| Quote ="Gavin Miller - Legend"[u[uObviously it annoys you so hopefully you will be more considerate in your own posts in the future
A lesson learned perhaps[/u.[/u
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[uOK we will let admin deal with this[/u, because I have not read any where that moderators can call a person names on a board because they believe without providing evidence I hasten to add, that the poster is inconsiderate in what they post.
Also that a different poster on the same thread calls another poster a lowlife scumbag and the same moderator makes no reference to this and does not start name calling that particular poster.
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"What on earth are you talking about? You are the one who posted 150 times in 48 hours about Briscoe's relative inadequacies vs Peter Fox. I [udo believe[/u this has been referenced in the intervening period. Sadly for you, Offiah himself is very pleased with our Tom. Oops.
[urlhttp://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2011/nov/11/england-four-nations-new-zealand?newsfeed=true[/url
"I really can't remember a time when we had a better back three," said the former Widnes, Wigan and London Broncos flyer. "Hall and Briscoe are a really good pair of wings. They've both got a bit of toe, and they're also big lads."
Anyone who boasts as arrogantly and unnecessarily as you seem to enjoy doing needs to be able to take as well as give. As for the comment in red, says everything about your ability to handle the reminder of some of your more OTT comments. Or lack thereof. I do believe it's against the AUP. Cockle.
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If I had the time effort and energy to breakdown your obsessive manipulation of quotes out of their original context, then I would because it's quite easy and I've done it many times before but I simply don't.
Anyone who contributes so little to a forum yet whose posts are based off the postings of others, has to come to terms that their behaviour is EDITED in every sense and needs addressing away from these boards IMO.
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| Quote ="General Zod."If I had the time effort and energy to breakdown your obsessive manipulation of quotes out of their original context, then I would because it's quite easy and I've done it many times before but I simply don't.
Anyone who contributes so little to a forum yet whose posts are based off the postings of others, has to come to terms that their behaviour is in every sense and needs addressing away from these boards IMO.'"
Dear, oh dear.
Everything about this post, dear Zod - everything!
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"A collection of RL journalists voted Yeaman as the Dream Team centre alongside Carmont this year too. I wouldn't try and make out it's only McNamara that rates him the better centre currently, as that would be plain wrong.'"
Yet there is strong opinion that a fit Shenton would be in the England team and he wasn't in the Dream Team.
And there are not many votes cast by journalists to be honest.
Andy Wilson once offered me and DDD to chance to join in and cast votes as there was little or no representation from the city of Hull.
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| Quote ="Marfa Manu"[uOK we will let admin deal with this[/u, because I have not read any where that moderators can call a person names on a board because they believe without providing evidence I hasten to add, that the poster is inconsiderate in what they post.
Also that a different poster on the same thread calls another poster a lowlife scumbag and the same moderator makes no reference to this and does not start name calling that particular poster.'"
As you wish.
Although with your persona on this site and the fact it was hardly derogatory I don't see what you will achieve.
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| Quote ="Gavin Miller - Legend"Yet there is strong opinion that a fit Shenton would be in the England team and he wasn't in the Dream Team.
And there are not many votes cast by journalists to be honest.
Andy Wilson once offered me and DDD to chance to join in and cast votes as there was [ulittle or no representation from the city of Hull.[/u
It's a small community the RL press.'"
Makes Yeaman's selection all the more impressive then. Charlie Mullan said on RH that he voted for Blake Green as the competition's best stand-off, so you'd imagine Welham got at least one vote.
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista""Parasitical" is within the AUP apparently - doesn't need surreptitiously editing out
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It's not acceptable.
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"Makes Yeaman's selection all the more impressive then. Charlie Mullan said on RH that he voted for Blake Green as the competition's best stand-off, so you'd imagine Welham got at least one vote.'"
Not really,might of only been one vote,where as you were intimating that it was a large vote when the reality is far different.
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| not many people would argue with the fact that Dobson has the best kicking game close to the oppositions line in the entire league so it would be interesting to see how many of kris welhams tries have come from pinpoint kicks in goal leaving him nothing more to do other than get his hand on the ball,the point being scoring more tries is not the only skill required in centre play,yeaman,s allround game puts him just ahead of welham IMO of course
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| Quote ="Gavin Miller - Legend"Not really,might of only been one vote,where as you were intimating that it was a large vote when the reality is far different.'"
Not intimating anything. You've said Yeaman's not as good as Welham and implied that McNamara made a mistake in picking him in your opinion. You referenced Shenton as the automatic pick at centre. Most would agree that Atkins played very well this season. Yet despite all this "evidence", Yeaman is voted into the Dream Team ahead of all 3. It's not a panel of FC supporters, and as you say, is perhaps under-represented in terms of the Hull viewpoint. I say "well done Yeaman".
There's nothing more certain than that this coming weekend England will get turned over on the back of errors and missed tackles by Yeaman and/or Briscoe, but the fact is that McNamara's selection, supporting their Dream Team selection, has been justified up to now.
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| What a completely pointless =#FF0000Edit-AS competition this is, who gives a flying whether Yeaman has more studs in his boots or Welhams hair colour shows up better on Sky3D.
England won a great game of rugby atthe weekend, executed a brilliant game plan and kept their heads to see out what was comfortable win in the end.
i personally think mcnanmara deserves a hell of a lot of credit for this performance because no one (Sam Tomkins excluded) was stand out, they all did their Job executed his gameplan and did it well, they let NZ lose their heads and this played into our hands.
At this time I couldn;t give a =#FF0000Edit-AS who's the best centre, winger or half back we just need to get behinf the team who ever is playing and hope they can up this performance next week and do the same to Australia, big task but it seems a lot more possible.
The Welham, Yeaman debate can wait til next year and be decided on the pitch.
Think you all should look back over the posts and see how infantile you all look. My dads bigger than yours, bit pathetic really.... Grow up everyone.
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| Quote ="barham red"What a completely pointless =#FF0000Edit-AS competition this is, who gives a flying whether Yeaman has more studs in his boots or Welhams hair colour shows up better on Sky3D.
England won a great game of rugby atthe weekend, executed a brilliant game plan and kept their heads to see out what was comfortable win in the end.
i personally think mcnanmara deserves a hell of a lot of credit for this performance because no one (Sam Tomkins excluded) was stand out, they all did their Job executed his gameplan and did it well, they let NZ lose their heads and this played into our hands.
At this time I couldn;t give a =#FF0000Edit-AS who's the best centre, winger or half back we just need to get behinf the team who ever is playing and hope they can up this performance next week and do the same to Australia, big task but it seems a lot more possible.
The Welham, Yeaman debate can wait til next year and be decided on the pitch.
Think you all should look back over the posts and see how infantile you all look. My dads bigger than yours, bit pathetic really.... Grow up everyone.'"
Barham red i agree with every thing you have said some people need to get a life what a joke trying to say who is better, he was the who was picked and let him get on with it nexst time it may be welham i hope
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"Not intimating anything. You've said Yeaman's not as good as Welham and implied that McNamara made a mistake in picking him in your opinion. You referenced Shenton as the automatic pick at centre. Most would agree that Atkins played very well this season. Yet despite all this "evidence", Yeaman is voted into the Dream Team ahead of all 3. It's not a panel of FC supporters, and as you say, is perhaps under-represented in terms of the Hull viewpoint. I say "well done Yeaman".
There's nothing more certain than that this coming weekend England will get turned over on the back of errors and missed tackles by Yeaman and/or Briscoe, but the fact is that McNamara's selection, supporting their Dream Team selection, has been justified up to now.'"
What you've got to realise is when the dream team doesn't include any Hull KR player it is meaningless however when Dobson was the 7 it was conclusive evidence that he was the ''best 7 in SL'.
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| Quote ="barham red"
i personally think mcnanmara deserves a hell of a lot of credit for this performance because no one (Sam Tomkins excluded) was stand out, they all did their Job executed his gameplan and did it well, they let NZ lose their heads and this played into our hands.
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I agree after last weeks game I said that McNamara had come up with a good game plan and he's done it again this week, maybe he's not such an awful coach after all?
I really don't know what's happened to New Zealand, they seemed devoid of ideas Marshall looked completely uninterested and Foran was completely anonymous after the off side try in the second minute.
My worry for next weekend is that a much more conservative and compact Australia will turn up. At Wembley we made about fifteen errors and they made about thirteen, it was almost as if both teams got a bit caught up with playing at Wembley. Australia won't do that next week.
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Think you all should look back over the posts and see how infantile you all look. My dads bigger than yours, bit pathetic really.... Grow up everyone.'"
Well I enjoyed it, I found it rather amusing.
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| Quote ="Old_Faithful_IAKW"What you've got to realise is when the dream team doesn't include any Hull KR player it is meaningless however when Dobson was the 7 it was conclusive evidence that he was the ''best 7 in SL'.'"
I have no idea how you've extrapolated that from the last four or five pages, exactly the opposite would seem to apply.
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