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| Quote ="MrPhilb"If Paul Cooke was playing superbly well and we were winning games you may have a point, however he wasn't and we weren't.
He's removed and we turn our form around[u. It's been well known Justin has wanted rid for a very long time[/u, possibly as long as when he was dropped for the derby for been "Unfit for selection"
Wakefield have space after the Terry Newton fiasco and obviously have contacted Rovers about a player John Kear is a known admirer of and doesn't look like he is in the first team picture at his current club'"
No kidding. Yet the usual suspects on here have continually denied any issues and when I posted what you've done have demanded "links" to printed evidence.
I agree that it's a good move for Rovers. If the rumours are true, though, it's questionable. You go from Cooke to Brough - the next step on that particular continuum is surely Frank Gallagher from Shameless.
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"No kidding. Yet the usual suspects on here have continually denied any issues and when I posted what you've done have demanded "links" to printed evidence.
I agree that it's a good move for Rovers. If the rumours are true, though, it's questionable. You go from Cooke to Brough - the next step on that particular continuum is surely :yvr9cay8Frank Gallagher from Shameless.[/
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"Depends how far advanced negotiations are. Look, it took Clinton 12 weeks to get here, and Orford 5, amid speculation that Rovers needed to offload a player to accomodate Clinton. Clinton arrives in the country, Cooke's dropped immediately and 11 days after Clinton's debut is shipped out to West Yorkshire. All entirely coincidental, I'm sure.'"
That, to me, looks like another association fallacy to go alongside 'you are paying a fortune to Cooke, that is why you are losing £400k pa.'
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| Quote ="Mild Rover"That, to me, looks like another association fallacy to go alongside 'you are paying a fortune Cooke, that is why you are losing £400k pa.''"
It's speculation. You know, like people speculating that Morgan didn't get on with Cooke, much derided though that particular "fallacy" was.
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| Quote ="Hutchie"bit hard that when the word is rovers are still picking a chunk of his wage bill while at wakey'"
But not all of it. Which could easily make the difference.
Just idle speculation of course.
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| Reported 100k to compensate a lost testimonial
Reported 125k a year salary for 3 years
So how many of you red n whites think the Cockie years were worth it?
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| Quote ="MrPhilb"And you honestly think the RFL base the way they audit the salary cap on what might or might not happen?
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Yeah, true. I mean, who could possibly imagine the RFL bending the rules if it suited them.
Accommodations have been reached before, and it wouldn't even be against the rules if interpreted in a certain way.
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| Quote ="Kosh"Yeah, true. I mean, who could possibly imagine the RFL bending the rules if it suited them.
Accommodations have been reached before, and it wouldn't even be against the rules if interpreted in a certain way.'"
Is the slary cap still live and teams have to submit figures each month?
If so, then rovers would have known that they had a short space of time to off load someone.
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| Quote ="chico's nose"Reported 100k to compensate a lost testimonial
Reported 125k a year salary for 3 years
So how many of you red n whites think the Cockie years were worth it?'"
Reported by whom?
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| Somehow all us Hull Fans just knew this day would come. "Welcome home Cookie, the team you've always wanted to play for", does anyone still believe it was this and not the massively over inflated wages you were foolish enough to pay him.
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| Quote ="The Goroka Gene-ius"Reported by whom?'"
Bertie, although his recent proclamations have been shown to be decidedly ropey when it comes to accuracy.
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| Quote ="chico's nose"Is the slary cap still live and teams have to submit figures each month?
If so, then rovers would have known that they had a short space of time to off load someone.'"
Yes it is (I assume you mean "salary"?), and no they wouldn't cos it doesn't work like that. I could try to explain it but I would have to use a couple of long-ish words so I'm not going to even try.
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| You just cannot believe the way the Cooke story has unfolded over the past 3 years.
It makes the impending? book even more interesting reading in the future.
To think this is a bloke, naturally gifted, showed some real class at times and at 28 is being ousted by a club that broke the bank and several rules to get him there.
Sorry Paul, you did it all wrong in my eyes, you shouldve rode out your career for a while yet at Hull and then gone on and played for your boyhood heroes and nobody wouldve begrudged you for doing that. Instead, all its done is stoke the fire and all the ill feeling between the two clubs (probably irrepairable) by being easliy led by arrogant individuals who clearly, have'nt had your best interests at heart.
An on fire Paul Cooke will always get you there or thereabouts to a win in a game of footy.
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| Quote ="t.m.t.b.f."
To think this is a bloke, naturally gifted, showed some real class at times and at 28 is being ousted by a club that broke the bank and several rules to get him there.
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Do us a favour, point me in the direction of the rules broken by Rovers.
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| Quote ="The Goroka Gene-ius"Do us a favour, point me in the direction of the rules broken by Rovers.
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guilty as proved
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| Quote ="t.m.t.b.f."guilty as proved
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tbh I think only Cooke was found guilty of an illegal approach.
Arguably rovers should have reported said illegal approach to the RFL but I'm not sure they were ever charged with anything.
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| Does Rovers style of play actually suit Cooke. At Hull he became The Man through which all our creativity started, whereas with Rovers, it starts with Dobso. Cooke appears to be more of a peripheral player, being played for being played sake than actually adding to your teams dynamic. The other question is where are you going to play Danny Brough if it's true that he's coming to you? He's not a stand off, that'll be I'Anson or Webster? Fisher seems to be playing well at Hooker, so where does that leave him to play?
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| We all know Cooke was brought to the club by Hudgell and not with Morgan's support as a massive coup over Hull FC. However, he has been on a hiding to nothing since, especially when it came to dealing with the 'aussie mafia' at the club! Don't forget, it wasn't just about the money, Cooke chose his path to Hull KR knowing full well it would be a life long decision to leave Hull FC the way he did. Look at Gary Schofield - 25 years on and he still gets grief when he's in West Hull!
Rugby is fickle, as are some supporters, but he and his family didn't deserve the treatment he got for a while afterwards, it's only a game for God's sake!
Good luck to Cookie, wherever he plays.
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| Quote ="t.m.t.b.f."guilty as proved
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Proven no case to answer actually, so don't be a liar!
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| Quote ="chico's nose"Is the slary cap still live and teams have to submit figures each month?
If so, then rovers would have known that they had a short space of time to off load someone.'"
Clubs have to maintain monthly records, but don't need to submit them unless asked for by the RFL (on a "by exception" basis). They only need to make 2 formal reports each salary cap year on 30th June and 30th December.
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| Quote ="The Goroka Gene-ius"Yes it is (I assume you mean "salary"?), and no they wouldn't cos it doesn't work like that. I could try to explain it but I would have to use a couple of long-ish words so I'm not going to even try.'"
Oh dear I missed a key whilst typing. Hope it makes you feel big and clever to point out my mistake.
Just wondering why you had to edit your post, spelling mistake perhaps? If that was the case I'm sure you would feel a little
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| Quote ="JohnSmith2602"We all know Cooke was brought to the club by Hudgell and not with Morgan's support as a massive coup over Hull FC. However, he has been on a hiding to nothing since, especially when it came to dealing with the 'aussie mafia' at the club! Don't forget, it wasn't just about the money, Cooke chose his path to Hull KR knowing full well it would be a life long decision to leave Hull FC the way he did. Look at Gary Schofield - 25 years on and he still gets grief when he's in West Hull!
Rugby is fickle, as are some supporters, but he and his family didn't deserve the treatment he got for a while afterwards, it's only a game for God's sake!
Good luck to Cookie, wherever he plays.'"
This is a lot less deserved then Cookie to be fair, he didn't want to go he had to because the club couldn't afford to pay him, he was never the Judas Cookie has been to Hull I can assure you!!
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| Quote ="Ian P"He did FC more damage leaving then he did helping KR and I think it is time for many to reflect on the wisdom of that move. He has cost KR a lot of money since his move over and I understand he is still costing you a bit even after his departure.
The damage relasionships between the two clubs management and fans will run on and that is his lasting legacy.
Has it been worth it ?'"
Could not agree more Ian - The Cooke saga created a Hate-fest like I have never seen before - players have always crossed over between Hull and Rovers but this one - I hope we never see again. By the way I totally blame the young man in question and hope that he can finish his career now in the West Riding.
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