That comment is insulting!!!!! I used to like your quote's FTF. But that is (to me). Fluffing disgusting. Why don't you get on the treatment bed and give them a few more excuses that they already have.
Maybe you're the few happy with bull performances, like tonight.....shame. Thought you one of the better ones on here.

They're still a better side this season then HKR are, or at least, 10/11 games into it

He is, let's not fall out amongst ourselves.

We're all cross and frustrated.

We can disagree but still be united.

I think most salient members of this board expected a season that's going like this, but we're all unfortunate sufferers of MGS, so deluded ourselves into thinking it would be better than we knew it would be.

Maybe but if your talking about improving teams I would have said Cats and Widnes rather than Salford

The people I feel for is our marketing department. I'd say the chances of growing our season passes on this season are virtually slim.
But let's not be down hearted, it's what we are used to. So let's all plough all our money into a crap venture that we're all used to. Pissed off doesn't even come close!

Chill out it was only a joke and I wasn't making excuses I was giving my opinion like I said I think we just hit the wall tonight after three games against top sides in 7 days with no squad rotation

This is the thing though that goes with supporting a team you know no matter what you'll be there next week and next season however peed off you feel now

Couldn't agree more - effort by itself isn't enough. Tonight was a perfect example. You need strength, depth and quality, and we're short across the board this year.

There's been some good moments over the last few years, but against a generally downward trend. Camel's back has snapped this year, and we've gone from gradual decline into rapid descent. Webbo's doing a decent firefighting job with a thimble full of water.

Hudgell and Crossland have been and remain crucial to Hull KR, but the last few years there's not been the same clear vision there was up to 2010 or so, IMO. Or maybe it just has to be run on tighter budget, which is absolutely fair enough, but I still think that it could be done better than it has been.

To be fair Salford had, but they now know they'll be in the 'middle 8's' due to their pending points deduction, I'm amazed with Catalans away form so far, they could only win 1 game a season previously. VERY strange Super League this season (so far).

And all I'll say is excuses, excuses, excuses!!
Everyone has the same to deal with. Ffs, Catalans had to travel to ours on a Thursday night, and we put up a Piss poor performance like that?!
I hate to say it, but some Rovers fans would be happy with any performance. Tonight was unacceptable!

That's a big thing for me, I really don't think the same amount of investment has been made in the first team squad compared to previous seasons and we have definitely dropped off the pace compared to everyone else. You can't fault Hudgell et al but perhaps there really is a sense that they can't take the club any further?

Can't remember saying I was happy with it I'm just not delusional

Tbh, delusional never seems to be a Rovers fan's trait. Acceptance of anything with a shred of effort seems to be.

IT WAS A POOR PERFORMANCE ITS NOT THE FIRST AND IT WONT BE THE LAST and I'm sorry you were disgusted at me saying you sound like a Hull fan but nothing you've added since convinces me otherwise

I didn't over react last week because I could see that Leeds being rubbish contributed as much as we did to the result. Equally, I'm not going to need suicide watch after that. Any semblance of a competitive game disappeared before we got a set with the ball. They look class and that's without Carney. We are not going to get any consistency with our squad this year. Once you realise that then you can de-stress.

At least it will be warm when we get to see the French shaft us again next month.

Couldn't give a fig tbh. I've supported Rovers through thick and (mostly) extremely thin. I've been to Chorley Lynx, Whitehaven, and various places like that watching rovers. I've nothing to prove the likes of you.
My posts are a disappointment of most rovers fans seeing the glass half full after a season like we're having right now.
It needs fans like myself to have a different view to the airy fairy views that most seem to accept with rovers most years.

I've just got back to Pick Your Ring 15 minutes before usual. Little or no traffic on the way back helped and leaving 10 minutes before the end was a revelation. It was unwatchable for me in the second half. I was embarrassed by our ineptitude. Just had to get out of the funeral parlour that was Craven Park tonight.

I can't make my mind up if we were so bad or Catalans were so brilliant.

After some deliberation I've finally decided. Good as Catalans were and they made it look effortless at times, we were a carbon copy of our preseason performances and our home game to Wakefield. This time we were generous in coughing up possession, slapdash in defence, had a guy playing winger who gifted our opposition 3 of the first 4 tries and we all seemed half hearted and short of ideas. Add in to the mix some dubious refereeing decisions against us and no luck at all on the night and the result was a foregone conclusion after 25 mins. We did well to get zero and Cats should have put over 50 on us.

I don't buy this 4 games in 12 days mullarkey, thin squad and lack of squad rotation opportunity as a series of mitigating factors for tonight. Same for most teams. We just didn't turn up. The first 4 tries were so soft, our heads dropped.

Kieran Dixon is a TOTAL liability. He is not learning and keeps making the same mistakes. No brain and no courage. We need to get rid of him.

Onwards and upwards to the Middle 8s. Bring on 2017.

We've all been there watching 3rd division rugby 1-0 home defeats to barrow which makes me take a SL defeat and a poor performance with a pinch of salt I'd love to see the days of the early eighties again when I was a kid watching but it's not going to happen anytime soon

I agree with you, this is an awful season, but none of us are "better" fans than one another.

I stood behind some fifteen year old kids at Headingly last week and they were incredibly passionate about the club.

It's fine to say that people have "airy fairy" views, but what solutions are you offering?

You and I can't, unless we win the lottery, go mental and hugely invest in the club.

I know I'm not supplying and answers here, I just think it's a little more complex than saying evrything's wrong, we need to change everything. And I've deliberately over egged that phrase.

I know people say it's the same for all teams but I disagree Leeds who lost all three Easter period games had probably the easiest fixtures we had a hard schedule on comparison which is why tonight went pretty much like I expected

The eighties was a once in a lifetime period. But what we are going through right now isn't far off what we experienced in the early nineties. And we all know what happened after that period!
It needs fans to challenge other fans at least, not accepting the bog standard average that we are experiencing right now. Otherwise.....what's the point??Hell, we finished 4th comfortable once. What's gone wrong since those days!

Tilse MUST go. I've defended him occasioally but....

On average he makes 5 metres, apart from 2 or 3 runs.

He offloads once per game.

He makes 2 or 3 big tackles per game and then is ineffective/falls off the rest.

He played well in the middle 8s, but cannot face up to proper forwards in the SL. He is at best a championship level player. We seriously need to get rid as his attitude is affecting the others. We need a pack leader not a passenger

Who shall we sign then?

I'm not accepting of the status quo but sanguine regarding our current plight.

No knee jerk reactions from me yet. However, I predict along with most that we won't have too many ups this season and we will remain in the bottom 4, but we should go well in the middle 8s. We will survive in SL imo.

Before the split, we need to take a long look at some of our players and make some tough contractual decisions regarding their future and our ROI. No doubt, I will get Stan and others bouncing up and down saying I know nothing about sporting contracts. Tough commercial decisions are normal when needs must and there is no area where it acts as a 2 Way Street than in sport.

To the board and JP, get tough and get rid where necessary. Just do it.

I'm not saying that one person is better than another, what I despair at is that we all (seem) to accept that what we watch at rovers is the 'norm'. Well i'll tell most of you.....it's bloody awful. The team of 2006 that beat wire in the Challenge cup quarters would muller us right now.
We've seen to of all been hypnotised that what we see is ok. Peacock hasn't shown his worth and the board have been as silent as I've ever known.
I'm just providing a different prospective to what some of you don't seem to get.