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| Quote ="Mike87"People got to realise that when your team plays bad sometimes just maybe it's the opposition that helps them along the way to that bad performance, don't make an ar$e out of yourself and blame your team being awful for the Salford team winning well. Don't forget both teams were on form before this match.'"
Hardly making an ar$e out of himself when 5 tries were pretty much gifted to your team by Hall and Caro, fair play to Salford you took your chances when they were offered, but please don't kid yourself that the second half performance by Rovers was anything less than dire.
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| Even Marwan said to me on the way out that Hull KR played poorly.
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| Let's be honest both teams were horrible 1st half and rovers carried on being horrible 2nd half and salford came out at half time and raised there game and rovers had no answer, straight from the off you could tell we was going to get beat today the effort and energy levels were shocking and salford realised that and took advantage second half
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| First half we needed to have got more on the board, Salford made a lot of errors, we had the territory and possession to have scored at least one more try.
Second half we just never started, Salford played some nice stuff in patches but we were awful, terrible errors and useless last tackle plays.
Our kicking game throughout was pathetic, and not just Scapegoat Keating (although he is/has been virtually invisible on the creation front) just banging up bombs into the in goal that no one has a chance of getting near is not acceptable at this level.
Any decent kicks that we did put in, the kick chase was lazy.
Salford sniped on our mistakes and were pretty ruthless on capitalising on them, their forwards won the battle and made good yards, Chase became more influential as the game went on and his reverse pass to who it was I can't remember was sublime. He'd tried it at least twice before, I'm not a huge fan of his but you have to admire his confidence in his own ability to keep trying those special plays.
I didn't think Child was too bad, he let Tommy Lee get away with an awful lot of wrestle and laying on, but we were again, story of the season, guilty of giving away sloppy penalties.
Having said that about Lee, I thought his hit on Burns wasn't particularly late (prepares to be crucified!) And Burns's reaction as a supposed co captain at that stage of the game, indefensible.
He'll be banned for that, and rightly so, just as we come into a crucial period.
Most worrying for me was the lack of effort, and enthusiasm at times, players jogging the ball in, lack of runner's, lazy efforts in winning the collision in defence.
Conceding what? Thirty unanswered points at home to a team that is comparable to yourselves at home is unforgivable.
I'll try and find a couple of positives. Chan tried hard and was aggressive on debut, Salter worked hard and largely contained the dangerous Sau and Green took them on.
Salford well worth the win, and not just because we were poor in that second half, they were rubbish in the first half but fixed things up and deservedly put us to the sword.
Big, big loss in a near must win game.
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| Sounds like hull and rovers train together
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"Sounds like hull and rovers drink together'"
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"Sounds like hull and rovers train together'"
Evening chief, it's a crying shame how the Hull clubs are on the pitch these last few seasons.
I don't think your squad is anywhere near the top four that many were predicting or ours the same, but we should be severely better off on the table than we are.
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| Quote ="Sandra The Terrorist"Evening chief, it's a crying shame how the Hull clubs are on the pitch these last few seasons.
I don't think your squad is anywhere near the top four that many were predicting or ours the same, but we should be severely better off on the table than we are.'"
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| Quote ="Sandra The Terrorist"First half we needed to have got more on the board, Salford made a lot of errors, we had the territory and possession to have scored at least one more try.
Second half we just never started, Salford played some nice stuff in patches but we were awful, terrible errors and useless last tackle plays.
Our kicking game throughout was pathetic, and not just Scapegoat Keating (although he is/has been virtually invisible on the creation front) just banging up bombs into the in goal that no one has a chance of getting near is not acceptable at this level.
Any decent kicks that we did put in, the kick chase was lazy.
Salford sniped on our mistakes and were pretty ruthless on capitalising on them, their forwards won the battle and made good yards, Chase became more influential as the game went on and his reverse pass to who it was I can't remember was sublime. He'd tried it at least twice before, I'm not a huge fan of his but you have to admire his confidence in his own ability to keep trying those special plays.
I didn't think Child was too bad, he let Tommy Lee get away with an awful lot of wrestle and laying on, but we were again, story of the season, guilty of giving away sloppy penalties.
[uHaving said that about Lee, I thought his hit on Burns wasn't particularly late (prepares to be crucified!) And Burns's reaction as a supposed co captain at that stage of the game, indefensible.
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He'll be banned for that, and rightly so, just as we come into a crucial period.
Most worrying for me was the lack of effort, and enthusiasm at times, players jogging the ball in, lack of runner's, lazy efforts in winning the collision in defence.
Conceding what? Thirty unanswered points at home to a team that is comparable to yourselves at home is unforgivable.
I'll try and find a couple of positives. Chan tried hard and was aggressive on debut, Salter worked hard and largely contained the dangerous Sau and Green took them on.
Salford well worth the win, and not just because we were poor in that second half, they were rubbish in the first half but fixed things up and deservedly put us to the sword.
Big, big loss in a near must win game.'"
Agree. Tackle could have been deemed latish but wasn't dangerous. Burns reaction was one of frustration and not becoming of a co-captain. Him being binned was a catalyst to the thrashing.
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| Quote ="Sandra The Terrorist"Evening chief, it's a crying shame how the Hull clubs are on the pitch these last few seasons.
I don't think your squad is anywhere near the top four that many were predicting or ours the same, but we should be severely better off on the table than we are.'"
The table does not lie Sandra, we are exactly where we should be. The best we can hope for is eight...then what. Season has gone for me and after watching that shambles just confirmed it.
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| Quote ="John Gilbert Reds"What a pathetic post by LF, embarrassing.'"
Oh come on... Lighten up... It's a bit of fun no different to what was being sang back at the Rovers fans on the terraces. If you can't throw a bit of bait on a message board and can only use it for serious debate... Then all the fun is taken away. It's bad enough that we have the RFL changing the rules of the game to make it less enjoyable... Stop taking the enjoyment out of beating a rival who's supporters were giving it out. Once upon a time baiting the opposition fans was half the fun of winning... Now we have message board anoracks stoping us being immature for a while.
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| Quote ="TheButcher"Ignoring the obvious bait by the OP, thought the HKR fans have been very honest and are a credit, both on here and on Social Media. As Salford fans we're being constantly told how we win purely due to the other team being worse than us.'"
But logic surely dictates that the better of the two teams usually wins. Nobody has to be good, just not be worse than the opposition.
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| Nothing wrong with giving it to the opposition when you're winning, we all did it enough today but to come on their message board minutes after the games finished and post "egg on your face" is cringeworthy.
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| Quote ="Hessle Roader"But logic surely dictates that the better of the two teams usually wins. Nobody has to be good, just not be worse than the opposition.'"
I think I know what Mr. Butcher means.
And obviously, I can't speak for him.
When we first came up, until we finished fourth, pretty much every win we had was due (according to opposition fans) their team playing poorly, we dominated a few teams that year, but got little credit.
Salford were always going to take time to gel, Dr. Koukash seems intent on further strengening, I hope he and the Salford club do, I'm a big fan of the way he's trying to shake things up.
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| Quote ="John Gilbert Reds"Nothing wrong with giving it to the opposition when you're winning, we all did it enough today but to come on their message board minutes after the games finished and post "egg on your face" is cringeworthy.'"
I don't think it is, we've all got our bell ends chief, it is good that posters such as yourself post as an antidote to them.
And, to be fair, as a home crowd, when we went in front, we gave it to you, then you bummed us and gave it back more.
Fair play I'd say!
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| Quote ="blakeysrobin"Agree. Tackle could have been deemed latish but wasn't dangerous. Burns reaction was one of frustration and not becoming of a co-captain. Him being binned was a catalyst to the thrashing.'"
I agree, contrary to the east stand blinker brigade Lee did little wrong, burns took an eternity to get the kick away, TL got to him and hit him as he kicked it, nothing wrong with it but burns lost it, ban for punching coming up.
I actually thought child reffed it pretty well, the ironic clapping was cringeworthy in the 1st half, becoming a bit of a cliche.
As for the game, we were gash, Salford were average 1st half but once they got a roll on they looked pretty good, chase with time to play can dictate and mason brown has pace to burn, season over now.
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| Can't really blame the op for what he said we should at least wait until we had the game won before singing what a waste if money not as there taking the field we set ourselves up for that one
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| time to blood some youngsters now. Guzdek at fullback. Hallett in for Welham, Esslemont in as well. get them ready for next season.
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| Quote ="Sandra The Terrorist"I think I know what Mr. Butcher means.
And obviously, I can't speak for him.
When we first came up, until we finished fourth, pretty much every win we had was due (according to opposition fans) their team playing poorly, we dominated a few teams that year, but got little credit.
Salford were always going to take time to gel, Dr. Koukash seems intent on further strengening, I hope he and the Salford club do, I'm a big fan of the way he's trying to shake things up.'"
Spot on with what I was getting at.
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| Hull KR fans very gracious in defeat!
First time we've had any credit i think.
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| Quote ="John Gilbert Reds"Nothing wrong with giving it to the opposition when you're winning, we all did it enough today but to come on their message board minutes after the games finished and post "egg on your face" is cringeworthy.'"
Like I said... Lighten up. It's ended up mostly a decent thread to be fair. All this was doing was highlighting the mistake that the Rovers fans made early doors... and to be fair... had it been the other way around I would have expected it both barrels. It's just a bit of light hearted fun.
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| Quote ="bishops finger"time to blood some youngsters now. Guzdek at fullback. Hallett in for Welham, Esslemont in as well. get them ready for next season.'"
Chester confirmed on radio that Guzdek would have played yesterday but he's still a couple of weeks away from recovering from his recent injury.
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| We blooded the youngsters last year against London and that didn't exactly go too well.
In truth though, I'm not particularly bothered. Such was the manner of the dismal 2nd half, it's impossible not to see it as season over now.
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| Quote ="☺East-Sard☺"We blooded the youngsters last year against London and that didn't exactly go too well.
In truth though, I'm not particularly bothered. Such was the manner of the dismal 2nd half, it's impossible not to see it as season over now.'"
The Derby match should be a barrel of laughs
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| Quote ="hull smallears"The Derby match should be a barrel of laughs
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It's all both clubs' have left tbf. Can we complete the clean sweep or will Radford's reign of fear finally kick in?
We're not completely out of the running for 8th, but this game could also go along way to cementing who finishes 12th and the complete failure and embarrassment that represents.
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