Right that's it. When we sign Greg Inglis I am going to burn down Craven Park, put tacks under Morgan's Q7's tyres and pull Hudgell's chair out from under him just as he's about to sit down.

These people are destroying our club.

What do you expect him to do? Smile? A player effectively not only un did all the hard work his team mates did by forcing a drop out but he also piggy backed Wigan up the pitch.


Just like Scott Wheeldon was finally going to get a decent coach and would turn into a top prop... Hmm. We'll wait and see, like I said earlier on the FC board I hope he does realise his potential. From an International point of view if there's anything England lack it's a decent centre.

He isn't a good public speaker and I think we'll have seen the last of Hall in a Hull shirt unless there are mass injuries over the river.

If he comes to Rovers as cover I think he's worth a punt. He has the ability to do some amazing things with ball in hand and with confidence he can be a top try scorer. He could also be loaned out month to month to a NL1 side but be available for when we may need him like we would have used him now with Webster, Walker, Welham, Colbon and Ratu all out.

Tbf and not necessarily putting it down to coaching, Wheeldon had a very decent 2009. This year Vella has been fit more often, Clinton has arrived and Watts has come on a lot so he's not had as many opportunities. I don't think anybody thought he was going to turn into Jamie Peacock, but he's done well I think. He's unlucky not to be given a new contract IMO - ironically he's probably, to an extent, a victim of the rules intended to promote young British players. Still, he'll get a gig elsewhere I'm sure.

Dont rule out Wheeldon being retained just yet.

So this forced drop out cost Hull FC 46 points did it, and stopped them scoring a single point? So your effectively saying Craig Hall cost you the game....... I rest my case!

I would be disappointed to see Wheeldon go. As GML said, he had a great season last year and when called upon this year has been solid and reliable. I thought he was very good against Bradford and showed good pace for a prop when he made that break. I don't know why people say he's lightweight as he is at least 16 stone and hits as hard as any in SL.

Defensively he's not the best, his tackligs attempts at times are just lazy arms hung out for players to brush aside, the Bradford try after his break shows this tendancy perfectly.

Well all the times I have seen him I've never had an issue with his defence. IMO Lovegrove is the weakest defender out of all the props.

Please point out where I even suggest this cost us the game? Thought not. If a player is upset by seeing his coach display his frustration at him not being able to pick up the ball with no one closer than 30 metres to him then he's not got the mentality to play SL IMO.

Tansey?

Aren't you supposed to be showing me where I said Craig Hall cost us the game?

No.... but what i will say is you must have thought everbody else had a mistake free game as no one else has come under criticism... ie Tanseys massive blunder which was in everyway as bad as Halls, if not worse for a future Enland full back.



If you don't think he cost you the game why hang the kid out to dry.....it's the Thorman thing all over again.The kid has no confidence, he's going to make an error as soon as he's set foot on the field, you could see the pain on his face when he made the error because he knew what to expect from the terraces. Again, didn't Tansey fumble a bomb with no pressure on him and force a goal line drop out..... oh, he can't be critisised, he's the future England full back...

I think tansey is more scared to go into and make a tackle then craig hall is.

I agree I'd like him to stay but I gather he's on quite a bit of money for a squad player we may have paid over the odds to get him in the first place, so I can't see him taking a pay cut to stay when he may have fielded better offers already.

Where have I hung the kid out to try? I just stated that the coach being dismayed by his error was totally understandable. There's a little bit of difference in my mind between dropping a decent high bomb to not being able to pick up a drop out with no pressure. Tansey is probably afforded more leniency due to his positive contributions being much greater than that of Craig Hall.

Watching him play nearly destroyed me.
As for Hall,Rovers fans could be right,Morgan may turn him into a tackling machine,who knows.
Nothing against him personaly,but in my case, I would not be bothered if he stayed or went to be tuthful.

It'd be a good idea to actually read posts correctly.

All the other posted said was that Agar understandably looked annoyed after that error. It was a shocking error and one that shouldn't be made by a professional. He's not blamed Hall for the loss atall.

Why are you mentioning Tansey? I'm sure Agar wasn't too impressed with that error either and you'll find plenty of Hull supporters criticising Tansey's ability (or lack of) under the high ball.

............................Hall............Tansey
Appearances..........18................22
Tries....................09................07
Goals...................03................00
Tackles................116................81
Missed tackles........18................24
Errors...................14................36
Penalties................02................11
Meters...................848...............1902

Yeh, i can see where your coming from!

back to topic. imo craig hall with a bit of confidence has the ability with ball in hand to score something out of nothing. not the strongest in defence tho. however without confidence, his knack for summat off the cuff and full length of the pitch tries is reduced to zero, and basic errors creep in and is a waste of time.
confidence players are always a gamble which can go either way

Dont
Its like being cruel to a Puppy

I hope not.
I would take a half fit (majority of the time) Karl Pryce anyday over Hall.

i remember when kris welham was well known for his poor tackling maybe Agar just hasn't spent the time with hall to make him into a better defence player, i think Morgan would see it as a challenge and to also stick two fingers up to the dullers, i would welcome Craig Hall

Stats don't tell the full picture especially when you only post half of them avaliable. How does Tansey's try assists, tackle busts and attacking kicks stack up to Hall's? If you think Craig Hall's contribution to Hull FC is greater than Jordan Tansey's then you need to watch a hell of a lot more of our games.