FenerBahce (Turkey).
Ok,how much do you think they will offer for him.
Do they need a fast winger.?

Once again, I'm going to stick up for him.

The try he scored on Sunday took some scoring. He needs to back himself and his pace more, given the ball in the clear on Sunday in the second half he should have hugged the touch line and not come back inside, he would have been under the sticks, that's a confidence issue.

People are jumping on him and making him a scapegoat, he's got genuine raw pace.

I like Brown a lot, but his defensive positioning was all over the place at times, he exits very, very well though.

I think that if we keep Brown, Caro and Eden together and drill them as a unit could turn into a very dangerous triumverate.

All three have a hell of a way to go in defence, but, if we get them playing as commrades in arms it might really click.

Over to Sandercock.
I think the pair of them, if we keep the

Wigan beat us four times in the regular season during 2011. We beat them twice in the play offs (identical scores each time) and knocked them out of the comp.

League is one thing; play offs are an entirely different beast and, like Leeds, we still have players in our side who remember how to play them, even in knock out mode. So I wouldn't underestimate us.

We just need to remember to keep hold of the bloody ball ...

In all fairness i think that is a good and accurate description of Caro and Brown.
In Caro i believe we have a player who is quite raw which has seen him come up with a few errors and lost quite a bit of confidence as a result.
However, he has something which you either have or don't have and cannot coach into a player and that is... RAW PACE!.
In Brown we have a player who is not quite as fast as Caro but is very strong and usually direct, however, one of his shortfalls is his positioning which you have rightly pointed out as all over the place at times.
Both these players are still relatively young(especially Caro) and if Sandy can iron out their flaws and instil confidence in Caro then who knows what may be possible with both of them in the future.
I believe all rovers fans should reserve any real judgement on either player until probably the back end of next season.

I agree you do well in the play offs right up until the final when you fall apart

Muhaha.

Quote seventies red; [iHowever, he has something which you either have or don't have and cannot coach into a player and that is... RAW PACE!.[/i

Problem is what he does not have and you also cannot coach - Balls....

You can be the fastest man on earth but if you have no guts, you get no glory.

Nobody crosses the white wash onto a Rugby League pitch without either balls or guts.

It's something you've clearly never done.

Quite clearly you are wide of the mark.

Then, quite clearly, it was a game you were too stupid to understand.

Having played RL for 20 years until I stopped playing at 29 I can state without any question that no RL player has a lack of guts or as you so politely stated 'balls' to say otherwise clearly means you do not know what the bloody hell you are talking about.

You do know that playing RL quite literally means you get the snot kicked out of you on a weekly basis right? You then think that letting yourself get beaten up weekly can happen if you have no guts?
Lordy me today



As an example I was never the best fighter in the world. However my god could I take a beating and stay up if needed simply because I took one every frigging Saturday on the pitch and it makes you used to it.

It's good to know these repeated beatings had no impact on your future mental health mate

You can't really make that assumption. Come on he's a Mod ffs

Gleeson wont play. Centres will be Welham and Salter. Withers will play 6. Hall FB. Only question is who on the wing. Brown or Caro. Likely to be Brown, he had a decent game scoring tries at their place.

Hall
Brown Salter Welham Hodgson D
Withers Dobson
Evarn Hodgson J Walker
Cox Lovegrove
Mika

Horne, Green, Griffin, Netherton

Paea, Paterson, O'Hara wont play even if we somehow made GF, just the way its going to be i heard. Be nice to see Paea.

I do take your point about play-off football; the intensity raises and you do have a number of players who are well experienced in play-off football.

However, this version of Hull KR is not the Justin Morgan team with a wafer thin middle unit ready to be steam-rollered like skittles, we now have arguably the biggest pack in the league - certainly in terms of height and if Paterson and Paea are named in the 19 man squad later today then I just think we'll be too big, too strong and too aggressive for your side.

Don't get me wrong, a victory at your place certainly doesn't indicate we'd be contenders for the title, more of a case of that neither team finished anywhere near the top-four and we have the bigger and more aggressive set of forwards hence your recruitment of front-rowers for next season.

We'll know more when the 19 man squad is announced.

I've got a feeling Sandy has a few tricks up his sleeve...

Agree about Caro; the incident at Salford when he didn't try and dive in at the corner seems to have defined his ability to many Rovers' fans - even though he picked up a bad shoulder injury during the game.

He was going very well before this and instead of so called "supporters" picking him up, he received a torrent of abuse 7 days in a row on twitter - something he felt the need to comment on. It's instances like this when I really do despair at the idiots following our club.

I think the instance when he could have taken the London defence on the outside was something he chose not to do because of the grief he may have got if he had gone into touch.

I hope he puts this season behind him and has a real crack next year because it may be his last chance of making it as a top-flight rugby league player.

As for Brown, having watched the game back on Hullkr.tv, it was his centre Heil who was at fault for most of the tries. Of course he's done his best but he just doesn't have the awareness to play the game at this level because his decision making is absolutely shocking hence why I understand he's been released by the club.

Heil's had several opportunities, maybe 4 or 5 games to prove his progress but he's not taken them which is a shame because he looked to be the real deal with ball in hand.

At the end of the day not everyone can make it unfortunately...

Paea and Paterson in the 19. No Gleeson no Caro. Dobson and Horne in the squad also. Evryone else re-called as expected.

Hope Paea has a spell off the bench in him and Paterson can play. Hopefully Paea, Cox and Horne on the bench. Would counter Walmsley and Laffranchi.

Sandercock has played Brown's teams 5 times. So far he is played 5 won 5. 5 pretty comfortable wins also 2 against the Giants and the three this year. Hope these fellows are match fit as we may have a very good chance of winning this if they are.

Good enough squad to give stains a 'fisting' ....COYR!!!

Hall
Brown
Salter
Welham
Hodgson
Paterson
Dobson
Tuimavave
Hodgson
Walker
Cox
Lovegrove
Mika

Withers
Horne
Netherton
Paea

Green & Griffin to miss out.

Possibly the most experienced side we've put out all year - too much for Saints to deal with there I think.

Can get 4/1 for Rovers with some bookies...

It would be great to beat them just for a repeat of the bleating and crying culminating in an official apology on their website the last time we beat them at their place. Shows what disdain they have for us.

Hope they lose the plot like they did in the cup game. Lucky to finish with 12 should have had 10 on the pitch by the end of the first half. If we keep it tight in the first 30 mins they will start losing the plot.

Sandercock deserves some luck and a win in the play offs.

Never mind keeping it tight mate, I think we could blow them away early doors - can't see them standing up to our physicality.

Just need to make sure we get a share of the ball then I think we'll win comfortably.

I hope so. Brown has picked bizarre light weight packs that Sandercock has just targeted and over run. They do have their 'big' forwards all back and Walmsley, Laffranchi, Soliola, Puletua but they have hardly been in good form. They may hold our bigger forwards early on but they may not be able to maintain it. A fit Paea to come on will have a big effect.

We'll miss Eden who has had three great games against them. Burns destroyed them in the first 30 mins of the last game.

Walker targeted Walmsley at Langtree and put him off his game.

No Carlise in the squad.

Does the General know something? If Paterson does play 6 it could be interesting. Be amazed if it doesn't slow our passing but it could be a master stroke against this opposition. We only have Hodgson and Withers for 9 so looks likely.

Unless there's some late squad changes...