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| Hunslet were the best side by a country mile, not once did we offload in the tackle, no support play.
Promotion not with performances like this.
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| How many points do you get for offloads nowadays? (I am being churlish)
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| Good win/Bang average performance, we just seemed so lethargic in a game where we should of been putting down a marker for the rest of the season. Hunslet were no world beaters but they passed the ball better, offloaded better and made more yeards after contact than us, nobody can tell me that side and performance was better than what we had last season. Welcome to deja vu season number 8
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| We were lucky to come away with a win . We had a lot of defending to do in first half.
Some good performances from Robinson , James & Peterson . Ferres was solid & I think there is more to come from him.
What was the crowd ? seemed a .good turnout .
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| Let's see how we do vs Worky and Dewsbury before we start getting ahead of ourselves.
I personally thought we were bang average.
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| Oh I think we were bang average today, but I also think we're a lot better than that. That was 50% tops
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| Quote ="Jemmo"Oh I think we were bang average today, but I also think we're a lot better than that. That was 50% tops'"
I agree. We will get better but there were some worrying aspects to our play.
The Hunslet forwards made far too much headway after contact and they seemed to put our players on their backs a lot of the time, slowing the ruck speed.
This was a problem last season and seems the same this time. One of the keys to our season will be how we cope with this against the better teams in the league.
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| That is the best and most honest I have seen him assess a game and I must admit to being won over a bit!
However, and there is always one with me, I have got to ask this...
When all this was going on...what did you deliver to the players from the stand that altered things?
If you did alter the game in some way...then please let us know how.
I only see a Sven...not a Singe in the stand.
Fiddling while Rome burns
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| Interesting to see what changes he makes for the cup tie and I thought his assessment of the the kicking game was brutal.
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| Having watched the highlights and the interviews - Elliot looks like a very good signing, worried about the lack of forward punch (the annual issue) and without Ben Johnston we seem to have very little creatively. A largely unchanged Playoff final side against a side that finished 7th last year shouldn't have been as close as this especially given our "aspirations". It's a good job Sweeting didnt have his Cougar Park boots on.
Someone made the shout to bring back Beryl on Cleggbook I think its a solid idea, play him as a 9 or a 13 gives us another pivot and someone how can make a difference also an excellent goal kicker should CR get a knock.
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| Quote ="Stand-Offish"That is the best and most honest I have seen him assess a game and I must admit to being won over a bit!
However, and there is always one with me, I have got to ask this...
When all this was going on...what did you deliver to the players from the stand that altered things?
If you did alter the game in some way...then please let us know how.
I only see a Sven...not a Singe in the stand.
Fiddling while Rome burns'"
Agreed... the interviewer asked better questions too, compared to the pre-scripted stuff that Carl gets.
RH said they didn't do what he asked at half-time, so I suspect any words from the sidelines in the second half had the same impact.
At least RH acknowledged we were second best in the collision and in the wrestle. My worry is that this is a perennial problem that we never get sorted and an area of weakness that I suspect concerns all fans.
We'll bash up the lesser lights down the middle but when we play the better teams we're often found wanting.
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| Quote ="SteveRoebuck"Having watched the highlights and the interviews - Elliot looks like a very good signing, worried about the lack of forward punch (the annual issue) and without Ben Johnston we seem to have very little creatively. A largely unchanged Playoff final side against a side that finished 7th last year shouldn't have been as close as this especially given our "aspirations". It's a good job Sweeting didnt have his Cougar Park boots on.
Someone made the shout to bring back Beryl on Cleggbook I think its a solid idea, play him as a 9 or a 13 gives us another pivot and someone how can make a difference also an excellent goal kicker should CR get a knock.'"
I also thought we'd win more easily but Hunslet were a different proposition to the Hunslet team from last season. Can we have their two starting props please?! We missed the Tali threat in the centre. Teams will know that if they stop Tali and Johnston, they'll have a chance against us.
We've not had a ball-playing 13 since Jordie Hedges. I don't honestly see Beryl as a 9 or 13. It's a shame he's been lost to the pro-game though as he's a quality half-back. I think we miss his organisational skills too.
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| 5 years ago when RH was appointed it was well documented that our forwards wasn't big enough and lacked that punch and fast forward to now nothing has changed, how can a up and coming coach who has had 5 pre-seasons and 5 'transfer windows' not been able to rectify that? As a human being I've got alot of time for him as a coach of a rugby team he couldn't inspire me to spend a fiver in a brothel! You need a bit of fire in your belly and i just don't see that in RH, i bet his wife can't tell the difference in him on a Sunday evening whether his side have won or lost! After 5 failed seasons are we too nice of a club to find better solutions?
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| Under the stewardship of RH we've not really progressed we've been in mix for "best of the rest" but never really kicked on and "Gone for it" its been widely reported that this would change this year, but as others have mentioned the same old failings keep coming up we are short in the backs, lack creativity beyond Johnston/Tali and we have no real forward aggression tho....we do however have a huge amount of back rowers for some reason.
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| We were poor yesterday but we won which is all that matters. We can only get better, I do not go as often as I used to due to work and family commitments but I will never slag the club off because I bleed Blue and Gold and will always be DONNY TIL I DIE no matter what league we are in
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| We couldn't believe how the Dons started on Sunday...it's like we had turned back the clock to the start of last season.
We had little cohesion, little overt passion and certainly little structure and plays.
It was like the team had just met and were having a kick about...and that lasted for the best part of half an hour and ALL of the second half.
We played decent rugby for 10 MINUTES.
obviously we managed to defend effectively enough to not get beat ...JUST!
A real let down.
Dunno if I am gonna bother going vs Oldham...looks like RH will change the personnel...mind you anything that brings Roberts in is a good thing.
Don't wonna get down to individual criticisms, cos folk don't like it, but some of our forwards are not what is required.
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| Quote ="Stand-Offish"We couldn't believe how the Dons started on Sunday...it's like we had turned back the clock to the start of last season.
We had little cohesion, little overt passion and certainly little structure and plays.
It was like the team had just met and were having a kick about...and that lasted for the best part of half an hour and ALL of the second half.
We played decent rugby for 10 MINUTES.
obviously we managed to defend effectively enough to not get beat ...JUST!
A real let down.
Dunno if I am gonna bother going vs Oldham...looks like RH will change the personnel...mind you anything that brings Roberts in is a good thing.
Don't wonna get down to individual criticisms, cos folk don't like it, but some of our forwards are not what is required.'"
Don't let the hari krishna group change you S-O, rumours are that once the 3 steps of being a superfan are completed 1. Never talk about individual poor performances 2. Never criticise club Doncaster 3. Accept whatever league we are in and be grateful we have a club. Then Carl Hall will personally visit your house with a player of your choice and give you a certificate then and more exciting than that you will be allowed and welcomed onto the Don's supporters facebook as one of them.
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| I think my chances of that are quite unlikely - Its more likely to be a torch/pitchfork wielding mob coming to my door!
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| Most of the people on there said it wasn't good enough and we got away with it, same as on here. About 2 people were all sunshine and lollipops, but lets not let facts get in the way.
Facebook has got a lot better since people have been banned from just questioning others right to a point of view, it's noticeable that some who would shout down those who they perceive as negative have gone quiet as they didn't actually have an opinion. I feel it would certainly help on here too.
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| There is still no way Steve or myself could post our view on Cleggbook on the Dons group without Nigel B and Jim W jumping all over it, based on personality alone.
This forum is still a safe haven for negative views free from
those who use ad hominem as their modus operandum.
Cleggbook is still a vehicle of bile.
Of course it doesn't particularly bother me, but even so spats are really bad to be involved in.
People want to voice views free of insults...sensible, responsible views I mean.
Cleggbook is far more populated with more variety, this forum is a quiet backwater.
But yes I have noticed the improvement in the Dons group since the changes...so well done.
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| The simple way is that if it not a post about RUGBY...or connected activities, it gets deleted.
Questions regarding peoples' attitudes or positivity or negativity are deleted.
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| Quote ="Stand-Offish"The simple way is that if it not a post about RUGBY...or connected activities, it gets deleted.
Questions regarding peoples' attitudes or positivity or negativity are deleted.'"
YOU CAN NOT TALK ABOUT THIS UNLESS YOU HAVE LACED BOOTS, or whatever
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| The true art of debate is to persuade others that your view is right and their view is wrong - not castigate someone on a personal level for having a different view.
Learning to disagree without falling out is something all forms of Social Media seem to struggle with.
I come on here because I like to listen to all views, share thoughts and ideas with others and make the whole experience of being a Dons' fan a better one. This is the only Social Media I take part in. I don't do Twitter/Facebook or anything else.
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| Thanks Brian - I go agree I have stalkers who must just wait for me to post on facebook.
It has improved recently and there is a lot less of a challenge to people validity to comment which I do appreciate Jemmo, I do find here you do get a more balanced and reasoned discussion on here, Social media is very "instant reaction" rather than a well thought out argument.
Reminds me a lot of the Monty Python "I've come here for an argument" sketch.
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