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| Doncaster Dragons Supports Trust - was formed, registered, fund raising tried, members enlisted (about 30 if I remember), held a very successful memorabilia sale, but it was just left the that same group of 30-40 stalwarts.
To try and reform again, the cynic in me says it will go the same as the DDST and fold which it did with the demise of the Dragons to Lakers.
Been there, bought the T Shirt, beginning to loose heart.
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| I agree. As I said earlier in the thread, it will always be left to the same few and quite a few of those have now got to the 'sick animal' point.
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| Quote ="grahamd"Doncaster Dragons Supports Trust - was formed, registered, fund raising tried, members enlisted (about 30 if I remember), held a very successful memorabilia sale, but it was just left the that same group of 30-40 stalwarts.
To try and reform again, the cynic in me says it will go the same as the DDST and fold which it did with the demise of the Dragons to Lakers.
Been there, bought the T Shirt, beginning to loose heart.'"
To be fair the point of a Supporters Trust is I believe to effectively run and own the club, not just hand money over to the club's owner(s) which went on in the past and we know want happens everytime we ve done that.
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| Quote ="WANDERER"I agree. As I said earlier in the thread, it will always be left to the same few and quite a few of those have now got to the 'sick animal' point.'" But theres the sick animal point or no club.
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| Just so everyone is aware, I have been in contact with Laura Harrison over the weekend and she has emailed me back with some information.
Laura says if we do decide to go down the road of organising a supporters trust, she will support and advise us through the process.
Laura also recommends we get the ball rolling sooner rather than later as well.If we do decide amongst a few of us to get something started , how many of you would want to be involved?
I dont know if Gary or Bruce want to put this on a separate thread or just leave it on here, but what does everyone think?
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| Quote ="Karlos"Just so everyone is aware, I have been in contact with Laura Harrison over the weekend and she has emailed me back with some information.
Laura says if we do decide to go down the road of organising a supporters trust, she will support and advise us through the process.
Laura also recommends we get the ball rolling sooner rather than later as well.If we do decide amongst a few of us to get something started , how many of you would want to be involved?
I dont know if Gary or Bruce want to put this on a separate thread or just leave it on here, but what does everyone think?'"
I've also spoken to Laura,and i ask anyone who wishes to become involved to please make themselves know.
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| I'm interested in it Bruce
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| Quote ="DRAGONFAN"I've also spoken to Laura,and i ask anyone who wishes to become involved to please make themselves know.'"
Have you recieved the email ive sent to yourself and Gary , Bruce?
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| I would be interested Bruce.
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| You will also be able to get support from the Social Enterprise Team at Doncaster CVS and from Business Link Yorkshire.
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| Quote ="Trotsky"To be fair the point of a Supporters Trust is I believe to effectively run and own the club, not just hand money over to the club's owner(s) which went on in the past and we know want happens everytime we ve done that.'"
The old Supporters Trust raised money in a bid to buy shares and a controlling stake in the club...it still technically exists
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| there could be money avaiable with NDC my dad has been involed with them we have a contact with them he's going to # find out if any money is available?
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| Quote ="DRAGONFAN"I've also spoken to Laura,and i ask anyone who wishes to become involved to please make themselves known.[/quote
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Karlos wrote: The thing is with this supporters trust lark is that it will be the same 30 or 40 who want to get it started.It will be the same 30 or 40 who set up a meeting for the trust and it will be the same 30 or 40 who will attend the meeting.
Everybody harps on about how our average attendance is around the 800 mark, so where then is everyone when its time to dig ourselves out of the 5h1t.
Im afraid it will be the same people trying to do their best for the club (the vast majority of which are on this forum on a regular basis), and until some of the other 760 or so fans decide to get involved it wont be enough.
It needs ALL the fans to get together on this one not just the die hards.The reality and the seriousness of the situation should be enough to get the rest of the fans involved.If it doesnt, then do they really care anyway!! '"
Ok so you have identified a potential way forward for the club , for it to succeed you need the support of all the fans [ so that is another problem and solution you have identified
So how do you get those 760 fans down to a trust set up meeting ?
You need a database of them all and you need to contact them all
When is your next home game ?
Out of the 30/40 who go on here or are within easy contact of those who post on here can you organise some of you to get down to the match and collect names,addresses and phone numbers of all your fans
Between the 30/40 all chip in to pay for a letter to be sent out and get every one of the 30/40 to ring 20 fans each
If they get a letter and a call after already being told why you want their details and they still dont attend or offer to help then basically you are bolloxed
But if you dont try you will not know
You need to be proactive [ hate that word with this or it might be too late and your last chance
All the best '" '"
You need to let them all know , 20/30 are not enough
Hard work I know but you must do it if you want to get anywhere
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| Quote ="Jemmo"The old Supporters Trust raised money in a bid to buy shares and a controlling stake in the club...it still technically exists'"
Mentioned that to Bruce over a pint this evening.
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| Quote ="insideman"your my hero
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| Quote ="DRAGONFAN"I know your post was made at just after five this morning-- but don't understand the part of your post that i've highlighted in your quote.
When has any monies raised by the fans of the Dons ever sat in a bank account for ever and a day?-------Never,as far as i'm aware.'" Up to now there has always been a club to give it to ! If all fails what would happen to money raised for a trust, and yes I do sometimes get up early to go to work.
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| Quote ="Marshland"Up to now there has always been a club to give it to ! If all fails what would happen to money raised for a trust..'"
Whilst there is a club to still give to then every avenue needs to be explored,and one of those avenues is the Supporters Trust ---should there become a time the club ceases to exist (God-Forbid) then the Supporters Trust and whoever its member's are would have to decide on what happens to any outstanding monies i would have thought.
Quote ="Marshland" and yes I do sometimes get up early to go to work.'"
And a Saturday morning at that.
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| I want to get involved..... but financially i have to be careful to commitments as im still on a credit plan when coming close to losing my home last year. This year i am ten times better off financially my mortgage has halved and very close to paying off the chunk of my bad debt. however was mortgage rates to suddenly rise like they did last year then id be struggling again.
I want to help, but have to be very careful when coming to financail commitments.
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| I would also be interested in being involved in some way.
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| Quote ="Rob-Donny"I want to get involved..... but financially i have to be careful to commitments as im still on a credit plan when coming close to losing my home last year. This year i am ten times better off financially my mortgage has halved and very close to paying off the chunk of my bad debt. however was mortgage rates to suddenly rise like they did last year then id be struggling again.
I want to help, but have to be very careful when coming to financail commitments.'"
The more of us on board the better, I think any help over the next few weeks starting from next Tuesdays meeting at the Drum (7.30 kick off) would be great.
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| Quote ="Willow tree"I would also be interested in being involved in some way.'"
Meeting at the Drum next Tuesday 7.30 kick off, the more the merrier, believe it will be hard graft for first few weeks, but worth it to keep the Don s alive.
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| Best of luck with it
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| Quote ="Starbug"Best of luck with it'"
Cheers mate - Thanks for the good wishes.
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| Quote ="Marshland"If all fails what would happen to money raised for a trust'"
When a Supporters Trust is set up the committee and it's members bust agree of their terms of reference, which is to say the aims towards which it strives. This has to be done legally as the comittee are acting as trustees for it's members and need to be accountable for their money.
If the club falls out of existence, the committee have the right to distrobute the money to causes etc which are deemed compatible with those terms of reference.
For example, a supporters trust could have amongst it's objectives this pretty standard one:
"Promote and Encourage inclusion into the game of Rugby League for all; regardless, of age, sex and background"
In which case the money could be donated to groups with the same objective (ie local amataur teams, scholarship schemes etc)
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