Quote ="-VIKINGMAN-"Oh Dear Gary. www.league.quins.co.uk/news/10472.php'" Gary - sometimes you've just gotta believe rumours Big blow for Barra but i'm sure their wily Chairman will have someone lined up to replace.

Quote ="-VIKINGMAN-"Oh Dear Gary. www.league.quins.co.uk/news/10472.php'" Gary - sometimes you've just gotta believe rumours Big blow for Barra but i'm sure their wily Chairman will have someone lined up to replace.

Quote ="-VIKINGMAN-"Oh Dear Gary. www.league.quins.co.uk/news/10472.php'" To be fair to Gaz they have only just got leccy up Barrow so he probably hasn't got the foggiest what's going on. He will be telling us next that Zeb hasn't been given permission to speak to another club.......

Quote ="-VIKINGMAN-"Oh Dear Gary. www.league.quins.co.uk/news/10472.php'" To be fair to Gaz they have only just got leccy up Barrow so he probably hasn't got the foggiest what's going on. He will be telling us next that Zeb hasn't been given permission to speak to another club.......

They have a nerve trying to get Smithy God.

We were all resigned to the fact that Ellis would go if he was made a sensible offer from a SL team. We couldn't even attempt to deny that it is blow to the team, but clubs in this league need to be resigned to the fact that quality young players will always be a target for SL teams. Good luck to Andy, he goes with the Barrow Club and Fans best wishes. As for us approaching Smith... news to me at least, rate him highly but can't see him leaving Widnes or being affordable. Oh, GFB... You have already been told that Zeb Luisi signed a 2 year deal about a month ago. Unless the situation has changed and the info reached the 18th Century, sorry Halifax, before it made it to Barrow... www.nwemail.co.uk/raiders/news/rugby_se ... erPath=afc

We were all resigned to the fact that Ellis would go if he was made a sensible offer from a SL team. We couldn't even attempt to deny that it is blow to the team, but clubs in this league need to be resigned to the fact that quality young players will always be a target for SL teams. Good luck to Andy, he goes with the Barrow Club and Fans best wishes. As for us approaching Smith... news to me at least, rate him highly but can't see him leaving Widnes or being affordable. Oh, GFB... You have already been told that Zeb Luisi signed a 2 year deal about a month ago. Unless the situation has changed and the info reached the 18th Century, sorry Halifax, before it made it to Barrow... www.nwemail.co.uk/raiders/news/rugby_se ... erPath=afc

Quote ="-VIKINGMAN-"Oh Dear Gary. www.league.quins.co.uk/news/10472.php'" To be fair I was clutching at straws. It was common knowledge he would leave. Even less of a surprise once we won the Grand Final.

Quote ="-VIKINGMAN-"Oh Dear Gary. www.league.quins.co.uk/news/10472.php'" To be fair I was clutching at straws. It was common knowledge he would leave. Even less of a surprise once we won the Grand Final.

Quote ="Off! Number Seven"We were all resigned to the fact that Ellis would go if he was made a sensible offer from a SL team. We couldn't even attempt to deny that it is blow to the team, but clubs in this league need to be resigned to the fact that quality young players will always be a target for SL teams. Good luck to Andy, he goes with the Barrow Club and Fans best wishes. As for us approaching Smith... news to me at least, rate him highly but can't see him leaving Widnes or being affordable. Oh, GFB... You have already been told that Zeb Luisi signed a 2 year deal about a month ago. Unless the situation has changed and the info reached the 18th Century, sorry Halifax, before it made it to Barrow... www.nwemail.co.uk/raiders/news/rugby_se ... erPath=afc'" I actually counted 8 of our squad for next year. Next to last photo has Ostler and another signing for next year

Quote ="Off! Number Seven"We were all resigned to the fact that Ellis would go if he was made a sensible offer from a SL team. We couldn't even attempt to deny that it is blow to the team, but clubs in this league need to be resigned to the fact that quality young players will always be a target for SL teams. Good luck to Andy, he goes with the Barrow Club and Fans best wishes. As for us approaching Smith... news to me at least, rate him highly but can't see him leaving Widnes or being affordable. Oh, GFB... You have already been told that Zeb Luisi signed a 2 year deal about a month ago. Unless the situation has changed and the info reached the 18th Century, sorry Halifax, before it made it to Barrow... www.nwemail.co.uk/raiders/news/rugby_se ... erPath=afc'" I actually counted 8 of our squad for next year. Next to last photo has Ostler and another signing for next year

Quote ="Off! Number Seven"We were all resigned to the fact that Ellis would go if he was made a sensible offer from a SL team. We couldn't even attempt to deny that it is blow to the team, but clubs in this league need to be resigned to the fact that quality young players will always be a target for SL teams. Good luck to Andy, he goes with the Barrow Club and Fans best wishes. As for us approaching Smith... news to me at least, rate him highly but can't see him leaving Widnes or being affordable. Oh, GFB... You have already been told that Zeb Luisi signed a 2 year deal about a month ago. Unless the situation has changed and the info reached the 18th Century, sorry Halifax, before it made it to Barrow... www.nwemail.co.uk/raiders/news/rugby_se ... erPath=afc'" Yep knew about the new deal. Payers under contract dont come cheap, i guess one way round it could be a player swap.

Quote ="Off! Number Seven"We were all resigned to the fact that Ellis would go if he was made a sensible offer from a SL team. We couldn't even attempt to deny that it is blow to the team, but clubs in this league need to be resigned to the fact that quality young players will always be a target for SL teams. Good luck to Andy, he goes with the Barrow Club and Fans best wishes. As for us approaching Smith... news to me at least, rate him highly but can't see him leaving Widnes or being affordable. Oh, GFB... You have already been told that Zeb Luisi signed a 2 year deal about a month ago. Unless the situation has changed and the info reached the 18th Century, sorry Halifax, before it made it to Barrow... www.nwemail.co.uk/raiders/news/rugby_se ... erPath=afc'" Yep knew about the new deal. Payers under contract dont come cheap, i guess one way round it could be a player swap.

Go on then, I'll bite.

Who you offering for Zeb?

We are not offering anyone, more a case of who you want.

Every f***ing time.





Oh, and no. I'm not ashamed at all.

Looks great does that



You can always rely on VM for a quality sig.

What i dont get is why people rate smithy i hope he does go!!.

He has been a great servant to the club but COME ON.. he must be our biggest earner and therfore taking up alot on " the cap".

When was the last time anyone seen him make a run from hooker, go for a run for the line " which was a trademark of his" when 10 yards out.

He has got very comfortable now Mark and got quite a few rollockings according to a Widnes player whom i know quite quite well.


Jiffy

We do:




You exist on a different plane all together than the rest of us.

I think WB makes a valid point.He's not the Mark Smith of previous years.

lol


this reads well now!
hope you didnt lose too much money

The magic word was " IF " thank god !

People were saying the same about Ryan Giggs a few years back.

Form is temporary, class is permanent.

And he's not the same as a few years back either.

A few years back his form was terrible, and people were questioning whether he had finished, now he is on fire. Have you been watching?

The point is, Smithy going through a temporary bad patch doesn't mean we should instantly get rid. Give him a chance, the are are not many finer players in this division.

IMO Smithy hasn't been bad, but just average and pretty anonymous from one game to the next. He's gone from being rated the best or 2nd best hooker in the division, to probably not in the top 3 or 4. Ellis, Penkywicz, Gleeson, Henderson are all now probably rated as better players in this division and lets not forget Graeme Mattinson completely outshone Smith in the play off game against Whitehaven.

I'm desperate for Smithy to do well as he has shown us loyalty in the past and also the no 9 shirt is so important for any team, but IMO smithy hasn't been that good for 2 seasons now. I guess it begs the question though, how much of that is down to Smithy and how much of it is because we've had a weak pack for the best part of 2 years.

As a last point, John Duffy was in no way my favourite player, but there were a number of games this season where we were a completely different outfit when Duffy came on for Smith. It didn't always come off for Duffy, but at least he gave it a go in each and every game. There have been a number of occasions this season where a lot people have said Smithy appeared to stroll through games.

plays better and makes more of an impact when coming back on off the bench

is that a promise

Oh look it's them from the league below.

only for a season