Just something for the idiots who have attached themselves to Widnes to think about - if they are actually capable of rational thought;

The RFL has stated that SL will reduce to 12 teams. They did not say it would be the bottom 2 clubs who are relegated to the lower divisions. That infers they will decide who stays and who goes, regardless of any on-field performance.

So, you're sat in Red Hall, thinking of who to get rid of and 'voila', one club's name keeps popping up in police/stewards reports. Easy job ....... Widnes kicked out, and all the hard work done on & off the field by people who genuinely have the clubs wellbeing at heart, ruined by morons. And remember, the next tier down will almost certainly be 'SL2', so no guarantee of being 'welcomed' into that. They could end up going down to the 3rd tier (ask Crusaders about that), never to be seen again!

Widnes (and some others) have a choice - sort out and remove the idiots now (they're not exactly hard to spot), or cease to be part of SL.

Quote ="Durham Giant"It is very quiet on here from Widnes fans [size=150But get it sorted or get out[/size of Super league'" The club must have read your post: www.widnesvikings.co.uk/article.php?id=12047

Quote ="Durham Giant"It is very quiet on here from Widnes fans [size=150But get it sorted or get out[/size of Super league'" The club must have read your post: www.widnesvikings.co.uk/article.php?id=12047

Quote ="BogBrushHead"Just something for the idiots who have attached themselves to Widnes to think about - if they are actually capable of rational thought; The RFL has stated that SL will reduce to 12 teams. They did not say it would be the bottom 2 clubs who are relegated to the lower divisions. That infers they will decide who stays and who goes, regardless of any on-field performance. So, you're sat in Red Hall, thinking of who to get rid of and 'voila', one club's name keeps popping up in police/stewards reports. Easy job ....... Widnes kicked out, and all the hard work done on & off the field by people who genuinely have the clubs wellbeing at heart, ruined by morons. And remember, the next tier down will almost certainly be 'SL2', so no guarantee of being 'welcomed' into that. They could end up going down to the 3rd tier (ask Crusaders about that), never to be seen again! Widnes (and some others) have a choice - sort out and remove the idiots now (they're not exactly hard to spot), or cease to be part of SL.'" Are you sure; https://www.loverugbyleague.com/news_12 ... eague.html

Quote ="BogBrushHead"Just something for the idiots who have attached themselves to Widnes to think about - if they are actually capable of rational thought; The RFL has stated that SL will reduce to 12 teams. They did not say it would be the bottom 2 clubs who are relegated to the lower divisions. That infers they will decide who stays and who goes, regardless of any on-field performance. So, you're sat in Red Hall, thinking of who to get rid of and 'voila', one club's name keeps popping up in police/stewards reports. Easy job ....... Widnes kicked out, and all the hard work done on & off the field by people who genuinely have the clubs wellbeing at heart, ruined by morons. And remember, the next tier down will almost certainly be 'SL2', so no guarantee of being 'welcomed' into that. They could end up going down to the 3rd tier (ask Crusaders about that), never to be seen again! Widnes (and some others) have a choice - sort out and remove the idiots now (they're not exactly hard to spot), or cease to be part of SL.'" Are you sure; https://www.loverugbyleague.com/news_12 ... eague.html

Well done Widnes, about time too. Why did it take so long? Seeing trouble from a small minority week in, week out is a real problem. It is damaging for the club of Widnes, their genuine and good natured fans and the game in general.

These banning orders and convictions can't come quick enough. Violent thugs who ruin it for the rest of the RL supporting world are a disgrace who make me feel sick.

Quote ="WolfiesUndies"You are a disgrace to the game. Please don't say it was a minority the crowd behaviour was appalling at warrington'" From the pictures, there were 10-15 'people' in the following shots in the link and maybe 5-6 actually look like they are fully involved. Don't tar us all with the same brush as the wits seen here; www.warringtonguardian.co.uk/new ... _at_derby/

Quote ="WolfiesUndies"You are a disgrace to the game. Please don't say it was a minority the crowd behaviour was appalling at warrington'" From the pictures, there were 10-15 'people' in the following shots in the link and maybe 5-6 actually look like they are fully involved. Don't tar us all with the same brush as the wits seen here; www.warringtonguardian.co.uk/new ... _at_derby/

There are [ialways[/i Warrington fans in the West (away) stand. Always. Every game. Never in all my years watching Warrington have I ever seen them have to be moved for their own safety. Anyone who tries to blame these few Wire fans for starting the trouble or contributing to it (as I've seen on Twitter) is telling bare-faced lies. The trouble started when the stewards tried to eject a few of your 'fans' after two smoke bombs were thrown and those 'fans' decided to throw punches at the stewards instead. The sight of Widnes 'fans' running over to join in was disgusting.

I feel very sorry for the vast majority of your genuine fans. This behaviour seems to be following your club around recently and it undermines all the hard work your club have done on and off the pitch. It was a great game for you last night and sadly a lot of people are talking about the trouble rather than the result. Let's hope the club can get these idiots found and banned and we can all get back to talking about Rugby League again.

Not as pathetic as banning people from posting on the unwashed wakey forum just for telling the truth. Wakefield will be out of business soon anyway so they are insignificant

Quote ="Redchemic"Are you sure; https://www.loverugbyleague.com/news_12 ... eague.html'" I Stand corrected ...... but makes it even easier to do - If idiots continually cause trouble, give that team a 30 point deduction and that's them in the bottom 2.

Quote ="Redchemic"Are you sure; https://www.loverugbyleague.com/news_12 ... eague.html'" I Stand corrected ...... but makes it even easier to do - If idiots continually cause trouble, give that team a 30 point deduction and that's them in the bottom 2.

Have you seen the video of your security 'dealing with' the situation?

If anything's disgusting it's the way the stewards/security acted!

I'd be surprised if many commenting on here actually saw anything other than "trouble".

3 lessons here:

1) Widnes Fans: don't chuck smokebombs it's unnecessary, potentially unsafe and will get you kicked out

2) Stewards: Don't knock the living out of someone for throwing smoke bombs or gobbing off. You'll lose your job and may be charged

3) Widnes Fans: If a steward is pasting an idiot for chucking smoke bombs or anything else, get the attention of the police, film it or report it to the club/police after the game. Don't intervene with violence and expect any decent outcome. If it's a mate then intervene before and stop him chucking stuff on the pitch or tell him to go peacefully if he's gonna get chucked out.

Maybe a fourth should be don't drink alcohol if it turns you into an idiot. I used to act like an idiot when drunk (not at the rugby mind and not every time I drank) so I quit 10 years ago. Not had a scrap since funnily enough. It's the common factor in all the recent incidents. The Wakefield incident could easily have happened when I was at Cas away but the idiots singing offensive stuff were far enough away from the home fans and the stewards nipped it early, ejecting the worst offender and promising his idiot mates they'd keep him safe cos he was so far gone. Have to say they were brilliant, the idiots behaved and it made the rest of the game far more enjoyable.

At Hull it was a slight over reaction by the stewards followed by a complete over reaction by the drunk. Enough said.

This lastest one however has hallmarks of fans planning to cause trouble from the get go and if so then they should be banned for life along with anybody who did anything other than defend themselves when attacked (I include the stewards here).

That's right, blame the steward and completely ignore the reason the stewards waded in in the first place.



I don't disagree with that



I agree with that. There was trouble and an uneasy atmosphere from before kick off. Our group in the South Stand commented before kick off that all away fans congregated in the middle of the West Stand, however the very vocal Widnes fans last night congregated towards the South Stand end, chanting anti-Wire songs and deliberately being provocative. It was into the first half before we heard a pro-Widnes song and not an anti-Wire one.

FWIW we had a great view of the trouble, after the second smoke bomb was thrown and the stewards moved in we saw them having words and attempting to eject someone. At which point a fan seemed to reach over the barrier and punch the steward, the steward responded in kind and all hell broke loose. Added to by more fans coming charging in and the police wading in with their batons. I'm not in any way condoning the steward's behaviour but it was provoked and he was not the instigator. For me the football season can't come soon enough and hopefully these idiots will disappear back to the dark side rather than tarring our sport.

i am still hear some have work to go to, and no i would not defend what happend last night but it was totaly different from what hapend at b v there the widnes fans were attacked without provacation last night was caused by fans throwing smoke bombs and they should have been ejected BUT when have bounsers been given the right to eject people by first knocking them senceless first that is what happend and why it kicked off they did the same last year throwing a fan down the stairs and another filmed it on his phone it was knocked from his hand and kicked down the stairs and then stood on just to make sure the 5 who were arested will get band by the club and rightly so but i hope they bring the bouncers to court as well as that was gbh.

So a steward repeatedly punching someone in the face whilst another steawrd hold his arms behind his back is an acceptable way of dealing with troublesome fans is it?

I agree! If the Widnes fans hadn't of thrown a smoke bomb there would of been no need for the stewards to step in, but surely you can see his reaction was totally unjustified, totally OTT and bordering on GBH?!

It was state of mind round maybe the idiots causing trouble are mentally ill

Apt username!

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... -game.html

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... -game.html

And to think some idiots saying the steward was only punching him in the arm to loosen his grip.

Which once again appears to be backed up by the (slowed down) video footage.

What???

The victims injuries would suggest otherwise Mike.

Its not yet be proven that those injuries were caused by the steward or infact were as a result of the incident. If the individual was one of those arrested, then the injuries would have been noted by the police on his arrest record (to cover themselves). If the person was not arrested but merely ejected from the ground, one might like to point out that there was an incident near to the railway station after the game which involved a number of fans.

All I would said is that the video of the incident does NOT show the stewards hitting the fan in a way that would cause those injuries (not saying he did or he didnt). All I would say its that the Daily Mail actually has about as much idea of what really happened as two people chatting in the pub the day after the game........based on what they heard happened.

Heads. Gone.

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Just seen this for the first time. I must say dirty fu(k1ng b@$tard that so called steward is.