Outstanding, especially after a night on the beer. You talk a good talk, but can your team walk the walk? To take our tag off us you have to entertain - against a decent side. Let's see if you're singing [ithat[/i Paul Weller song on Thursday night.

Ooh, lets see.

As a lover of Paul Weller there are certainly some possibilities:

The Bitterest Pill (For the Fax Fans after a defeat)

The Changing Man / You Do Something To Me - for Paul Cullen

Strange Town - on going to Fax

I will leave the obvious one for you VM, although imagine if we had Jamie Peacock playing for us, there would have been another PW song to add...

I wasn't going to mention Paul Simon's legendary song about leaving Widnes but you've forced me into a corner. I'll be homeward bound on Thursday afternoon too.

oh dear!

Right I don't want to play devil's advocate here, but I think people are jumping the gun a little bit. Fair enough we have inflicted two cricket scores in our last two home games, however I think we could have found a messageboard team to beat both of them, well ceertainly Toulouse anyway. Granted we played some cracking stuff, but the nature of both games let us, they were cac, we were allowed to play flowing, expansive rugby.
Next Thursday will be a different kettle of fish completely, THEY ARE the team to beat in this division and away from home I genuinely think we are in for a struggle. Fax are a quick side, so if we defend out wide as well as we can then that'll make things easier. I hope Smithy shows Beswick up, and would love to see Paddy bag another few, potential leading try scorer for me?

Flying Fax machines would be just as bad

I'm grounded!

Paterson and Mills will do well to get in I think.

Paterson will be straight back in at 13 when fit with Duffy and Webbo half backs. Mills still has a huge part to play in our season IMO.

I think Doran will stay at loose , Cullen prefers runners in the pack . Always plays with 2 pivots, which alongside Smith is enough .

The Vicar

What that man said. Will cause some real damage throughout the course of the season, as in 2007.

i fully expect that being full time will have nothing to do with it widnes were full time last season and it made not a jot of difference as we beat you almost every time we played you last year.

fax by 8

very good game it will be should be very good am looking forward to it very good squads i expect the 2 best players on the pitch to be webster for you and i would expect ben black to be very good as he always comes alive in big games.

Thought Briers was coming here to play LF?

With suitable amendments if you were playing Leigh RLFC I,m so glad you are not playing us on Thursday.

Saw him at Halton Farnworth this morning and him and Morrison sat most of the session out. Some of the younger lads looked confused during the training session as Cullen used way too many big words for them

Ha ha ha, Cullens words of Wisdom will have them right.

"I feel we need to strategise exponencially in the physicality sector!"

The key will be the D shape defence and taking out the A and B pivots for Fax, the ability to combust the lethargic opponent will be to the other major factor for the Vikings.

When you look at the two teams on paper you would probably give Fax the edge. The fulltime factor however should come in to play which will probably be a leveller. As someone has mentioned Fax havnt really been tested yet and nothing can be judged from putting cricket scores on Sheffield or Barrow, 2 of the weaker teams in the division. Fax will be th top scorers again this season but how they go will all depend on what their defence is like this season.

We are also very aware of the way the Halifax side line up and their tenacity in move up quickly from the line. We have looked at the videos to pin point some weaknesses and gaps this squad of players can exploit.

In laymans terms that means that we have assessed the corollary of the Pythagorean theorem's converse as a simple means of determining whether a triangle between two adjacent defenders and the full back behind is right, obtuse, or acute. The velocity of the pass is crucial to this. It's imperative we have studied that, play our own game and remember the basics i.e. a2 + b2 = c2 then it's going to be an epic.

You would probably give Fax the edge!!... most Widnes fans would I feel give the Vikings the edge including myself
The major difference in this game will be that Fax are a settled side with a coach who's been at the helm for a while now.
We are effectively a club in transition and it will take a few weeks before we can count ourselves as settled.

You are very lucky that you are playing us at the moment!!


Reminds me of 2007 when we had a few bad NRC group games only to blow Leigh out of the water in our first home game of the season..
We were excellent that year only to implode in every conceivable fashion as a club.

yes what he said

dont think being full time will have anything to do with it with a live match on sky the addrenaline will carry fax through and the full time factor didnt make much difference last season so i expect it to be the same this season.

Widnes have not played well away from home this season. If we turn up to play and are as fluent as we have been at home I can see only one result - Widnes Win. If we continue our patchy away form then Fax will have enough to overcome us..

Will be looking forward to see how Beswick does against us and whether PC and JS have put a plan in place to take hime out of the game.

Nes

We had a poorer squad last year which was thrown together in the off season, King Cullen will get us firing.