It's not going to change anything but i've just cancelled my sky. The only reason I ever got it was for the super league games with the hope that maybe we would be playing in that competition, now that's never going to happen why continue paying £50 a month?

500 paying fans and 2000 will be freebies given to the local schools so the attendance is bumped up a bit.

im seriously gutted you guys havent got in im a saints fan but have been to a few widnes games this season, and next season i will continue!!

She'll probably ring you back in Feb to say there's a lot of new subscriptions being taken out in Salford and Bridgend.

While it's not palatable to Widnes fans, I don't see why you'd be in any worse position to apply next time, that's only 2 seasons from now before the decision is made, so 2 seasons to get all the ticks in the other boxes.

And didn't that bloke with one huge ear say on Boots'n'all that a team from NL1 is guaranteed to join SL next time round?

That'll be why they are bringing Toulouse into NL1.

Yes - they have said at least one current team will be "relegated" and replaced with a team from NL1 - but if 2 current clubs aren't making the progress then they will both be replaced.

And as for Toulouse - they are only in with a chance if they have a grand final appearance in NL1 between now and 2011 as I believe that is one of the criteria for a club to be "promoted" from 2012

Unlikely. They will probably just expand to 15 clubs, as they have stated they are prepared to do, and then enter Toulouse in 2012.


getting to a NL1 GF will not be a problem for a side that’ll be chock full of Aussies and doesn’t have to worry about a salary cap.

Sound familiar?

Its not unlikely - the RFL have already said at least one club WILL drop out of Super League to be replaced by a "top NL1 side" in 2012

Yes, I forgot that the RFL are a paragon of honesty and virtue.



They will keep to the second one though. You'll have Toulouse there with you in 2012.

The RFL have offered the French RL the opportunity to have a team in NL1 next year so I think it's a big leap from there to "guaranteed entry into SL"

Do you?

How long have Celtic been in NL1 then?

The criteria for 2009 was supposed to be based on stadium, facilities, youth development, crowds etc yet they still let CC in... You can gaurantee that the rules will be shaped into whatever form so that they can to continue Dicky's expansionist crusade.

And look were Celtic are in the League.

Not doing to bad for a new club.

Put it this way. IF Touloose enter NL1 and if they get to grand finals then that shows they are good enough for SL and they will join catalan dragons.

If Toulouse struggle in NL1 then they wont get promoted.

As for people saying scrap sky to get yourselves in SL. Thats a sure fire way of ensuring you dont get in SL. Its akin to cutting off your nose to spite your face.

SL has only been expanded because Sky were prepared to pay more money because their viewing figures are good. If Viewing figures deteriorated then the SL would probably shrink down to 12 clubs again which would leave Widnes stranded again.

CC would have been granted a license regardless. The fact that they had a free reign to sign anyone without the restraints of an overseas quota has only bolstered their chances of finishing high in the table. Had there been a level playing field then I suspect that they wouldn't be such a force. In any case without our -9 deduction we would be right up there with them.

Fact of the matter is that the RFL will push expansion by any means necessary.

But for every one cancelled in the NW, there'll be three new subscribers from Wales

No, in fact it’s realty s**t!

CC are anothing club that has simply been able to recruit as many Aussies as it wants and doesn’t have to worry about the salary cap.

Even without being able to recruit players, from a distinctly less prolific pool, Widnes have scored more points than CC. They have had every advantage, and yet are still lagging behind Widnes. They will be a disaster in SL.



No it wont. It will show what a powerhouse of talent Australia is and nothing more.


SL is not the be all and end all for a real RL fan.



Right ….OK…..you think it’ll actually have some effect….?

Actually, that's not a fact. It's a fantasy. hth.



As is that. Unless you've got actual evidence of salary cap breaches? …




No. Thought not.

Are you sure ?

When did they state this ?

I do seem to recall them saying that the top performing club in NL 1 will get a place in SL in 2012 even if they have to expand the comp but nothing about any clubs losing their place

They have over 8 oversea's players in their squad

I did the same and got another 3 months free.

Think you're right Starbug - either SL will expand to 15 teams or a current team would drop out.

anybody still doing the same as me not paying their sky subscription,and cutting of their nose to spite their face till sky and S/L bring back relegation and promotion

No but I might cancel mine if they dont pack in this MOOOVE rubbish

I keep the sky for the football, but I've not watched any of the league for years.

It's just lost its shine, I wont be tuning in any time soon either.

I agree it a disgrace in sport to not give all teams a chance.

Who are we? Only the paying customers actually here now not the imaginary droves apparently waiting in the wings.

All we can do is act like dissatisfied customers, and no more than that. Hence people curious about rugby league get told exactly what I think of it instead of encouragement to watch it and a complete shut down on any support. I just don't have any love for it any more.

Widnes is my one tie, ing me off as they are they'll at least always have my support.