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| I maybe wrong, but I thought that the RFL said that at least one Championship Club would be accepted into SL for 2012. No mention of 'demoting' a current SL club, although that is the most probable outcome.
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| Quote ="SRC"I maybe wrong, but I thought that the RFL said that at least one Championship Club would be accepted into SL for 2012. No mention of 'demoting' a current SL club, although that is the most probable outcome.'"
I haven’t got the link, but the RFL have recently stated that a current SL club will be dropped.
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| Quote ="Pepe"I haven’t got the link, but the RFL have recently stated that a current SL club will be dropped.'"
I think the term was , It was ' likely ' that a team would be dropped , leading most to think that any Tv deal would not be increased enough to support any more british teams in SL , and possibly the reason the RFL would be interested in Stade Francais if they can find their own french TV money
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| Quote ="Starbug"I think the term was , It was ' likely ' that a team would be dropped , leading most to think that any Tv deal would not be increased enough to support any more british teams in SL , and possibly the reason the RFL would be interested in Stade Francais if they can find their own french TV money'"
About time the french put money into their own game.Why we funding the french?We need to help our own teams before the heartlands die.If widnes went i never support any other team so rfl need to think better.It a northern sport rugby league.Any expansion should be done gradual not miles away from m62 corridor.
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| Quote ="Terrace Retro"FAO Barrow fans:
Your dreams have been our reality for years. We may not be so high and mighty anymore, but we are still head and shoulders above you in terms of the next application. FWIW you have probably a better squad, and I fancy your chances to go all the way again, but don't let it be forgotten up until last season you were struggling to make ends meet and have a saviour in Des. You can compare that to SOC if you like, but we already have a fanbase in place!
Come back when you have a better stadium, a fanbase to equal the chemics, an academy and youth policy to be proud of and a chariman who isn't a fat gob$h*te.
The terrace chant 'Where were you when you were S**t' springs to mind, don't forget it was only 2-3 years ago you could only dream of beating a club like us, perish the thought of getting into two finals in a season. So read, weap and get back to building ships!
WHO TO BE A WOOOOOOOOOOOOLY'"
What a gobsh*te.
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Quote ="Starbug"I think the term was , It was ' likely ' that a team would be dropped , leading most to think that any Tv deal would not be increased enough to support any more british teams in SL , and possibly the reason the RFL would be interested in Stade Francais if they can find their own french TV money'"
Couldn't find a link, but apparantly it was something that was said in a radio link viewtopic.php?t=436805
** EDIT ** found it: news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_l ... 363171.stm
Right at the end of the interview the question was asked that if a club was coming up would one be coming out of SL and the 1st word out of Lewis' mouth was "yes". To be honest though, I think we was responding to the original question which was should SL clubs be concerned about losing their licence. I think we can read into it that the most likely outcome will be that SL club will lose their place, but obviously they are not going to say that publically until nearer the time. I think SO'C said it would be spring next year when the decsion would be made, so a) gives that club almost a full year to plan for SL, b) makes that Championship clubs season a bit pointless but maybe more significantly c) what about the SL club coming down? They'll effectively be relegated with about 2/3's of the season still to go.
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Quote ="Starbug"I think the term was , It was ' likely ' that a team would be dropped , leading most to think that any Tv deal would not be increased enough to support any more british teams in SL , and possibly the reason the RFL would be interested in Stade Francais if they can find their own french TV money'"
Couldn't find a link, but apparantly it was something that was said in a radio link viewtopic.php?t=436805
** EDIT ** found it: news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_l ... 363171.stm
Right at the end of the interview the question was asked that if a club was coming up would one be coming out of SL and the 1st word out of Lewis' mouth was "yes". To be honest though, I think we was responding to the original question which was should SL clubs be concerned about losing their licence. I think we can read into it that the most likely outcome will be that SL club will lose their place, but obviously they are not going to say that publically until nearer the time. I think SO'C said it would be spring next year when the decsion would be made, so a) gives that club almost a full year to plan for SL, b) makes that Championship clubs season a bit pointless but maybe more significantly c) what about the SL club coming down? They'll effectively be relegated with about 2/3's of the season still to go.
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| Quote ="vikings 4 ever" what about the SL club coming down? They'll effectively be relegated with about 2/3's of the season still to go.'"
What a shame.Couldn't care less if that happened to be honest.
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| Quote ="GSF"What a shame.Couldn't care less if that happened to be honest.'"
I do not care either as nobody gived a stuff about widnes not getting a franchise.Salford had worst attendances than widnes and crap stadium but jumped above us.Celtic could not last more than a year in south wales.All a joke.
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| Anyone who claims Widnes should not be the next team in super league needs some help or some form of teaching on what makes a good RL club.
Widnes fans on here, you know who gets my vote anyway.
It was a big enough cock up that they were not put in last time around.
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| Does richard lewis know what he's talking about? I can't believe the bulls**t he is talking about celtic
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| Quote ="deeHell"As a passionate believer in P/R I firmly think that Barrow have a moral right to enter SL. As for Leigh/Widnes/Halifax and other set of moaners that haven't won the GF, well hard luck. You should learn to compete on the field and then come back to us!
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you do realise that this is 3 year franchise thing and you won the grand final in the 1st of those seasons.
you won it once, theres 2 more years,
also you talk about your on the pitch form and your success, this franchise is about on and off the feils, right now there are at least 4 other teams in this league with better grounds than you.
there are a couple with a better fan base than you.
you might think what ever you want but the ONLY and i mean ONLY reason you will get into super league is because of EXPANSION.
Celtic Crusaders wernt ready but got fast tracked in cause they were an expansion club
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| Quote ="faxtastic"you do realise that this is 3 year franchise thing and you won the grand final in the 1st of those seasons.
you won it once, theres 2 more years,
also you talk about your on the pitch form and your success, this franchise is about on and off the feils, right now there are at least 4 other teams in this league with better grounds than you.
there are a couple with a better fan base than you.
you might think what ever you want but the ONLY and i mean ONLY reason you will get into super league is because of EXPANSION.
Celtic Crusaders wernt ready but got fast tracked in cause they were an expansion club'"
You do realise deehead is a Wakey fan don't you - but one or two of your points stand .
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| Quote ="Redchemic"You do realise deehead is a Wakey fan don't you - but one or two of your points stand
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i didnt realise that, thanks for pointing that out.
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| Quote ="faxtastic"i didnt realise that, thanks for pointing that out.
just thought seen as though this guy was going mental about teams in the championship that he actually supported one of them.'"
Don't worry about it. He will be soon enough.
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| Quote ="faxtastic"i didnt realise that, thanks for pointing that out.
just thought seen as though this guy was going mental about teams in the championship that he actually supported one of them.'"
How could you think that a Barrow fan would have posted such a ridiculous statement ? All fans of Championship clubs know that Widnes going into SL is already a done deal. Their Chairman said so.
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| ha ha... oh look it's SRC the solitary voice coming out of Barrow that thinks they have any chance this time around. Still trying to whip up a frenzy on this old chestnut. Would have thought the fact nearly no-one agreed with you last time you would have given it up.
Most Barrow fans seem to realise that they stand a fantastic chance in 2015 but this time has come too early for them.
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| Quote ="In EnemyTerritory"ha ha... oh look it's SRC the solitary voice coming out of Barrow that thinks they have any chance this time around. Still trying to whip up a frenzy on this old chestnut. Would have thought the fact nearly no-one agreed with you last time you would have given it up.
Most Barrow fans seem to realise that they stand a fantastic chance in 2015 but this time has come too early for them.'"
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| Quote ="SRC"How could you think that a Barrow fan would have posted such a ridiculous statement ? All fans of Championship clubs know that Widnes going into SL is already a done deal. Their club is in an overall far better and more advanced position than any other to make the step up.'"
Edited for accuracy.
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| Quote ="GetThemScallyWags"Edited for accuracy.'"
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| If us Barrow fans don't have any faith in the club and what it can achieve, then what's the point ????
What's wrong with wanting to play at the highest level and believing there is a possibility ?
Isn't that what being a fan of supporter is all about ?
If we were playing in the pre-Super League era, we'd be looking forward to a season in Super League. No-one at Barrow has ever complained about this, we're just trying to get what we can of our house in order to give us the best chance of winning the RFL's license charade for 2012.
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| Quote ="SRC"If us Barrow fans don't have any faith in the club and what it can achieve, then what's the point ???? '"
There’s nothing wrong with any of that, but what you do is pretend that Barrow are an equally strong club as Widnes when they are clearly not. That’s not arrogance on my behalf, given the RFL’s licence criteria, it is a simple observational fact.
Quote ="SRC"What's wrong with wanting to play at the highest level and believing there is a possibility ?
Isn't that what being a fan of supporter is all about ? '"
There’s nothing wrong with wanting it, but failing to acknowledge the obvious strength of the opposition, while over-stating your own, will convince no-one. Widnes beat Barrow on practically every licence metric you can mention.
Quote ="SRC"If we were playing in the pre-Super League era, we'd be looking forward to a season in Super League. '"
Quote ="SRC"No-one at Barrow has ever complained about this, we're just trying to get what we can of our house in order to give us the best chance of winning the RFL's license charade for 2012.'"
That’s what we’re all trying to do, and you’re right about it being a charade. If Barrow get a licence in 2012 it will prove it.
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| Quote ="SRC"If us Barrow fans don't have any faith in the club and what it can achieve, then what's the point ????
What's wrong with wanting to play at the highest level and believing there is a possibility ?'"
There's nothing wrong with having faith in your club but your faith seems to be blind to the fact of what the requirements are and what other clubs have achieved. Look at fans of 'fax and Leigh both who have SL aspirations and many will agree that we are best placed to take the 2012 spot while they acknowledge that they are on course for 2015.
For some reason though you seems to ignore that and constantly try to denigrate our position. I'd be interested to know why.
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| I have ALWAYS said that Widnes are front runners. However, there's 18 months to go yet and a lot can happen. I'm interested to hear how Widnes know what the definite SL critera is for 2012, as the RFL haven't told any of the other clubs.
As I have said before, there will be AT LEAST 1 club going into SL from the Championship. OK, Widnes are favourites for 1 spot, but if another team can prove they would be a better option than another SL club, then who knows?
I remember most NL1 fans writing off Barrow's survival in the Championship last season and look what happened.
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