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| Quote ="deeHell"I was coming out with a fair opinion regarding P/R and franchising. As a passionate supporter of P/R I was hoping someone would give a good counter argument. That sadly has not materialized and if anything has made me more convinced that my opinion is the strongest.
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I don't think your opening post went down well.
Quote ="deeHell"Your having a laugh! Well it certainly makes me laugh when Widnes fans think that they have a god given right to be next team in SL. Considering they have yet to win the big one in the Championship...Fact! For a team that failed to cut it, consistently on the field, when it mattered there seems be a lot self pitty surrounding your position. Can we have a reality check please...?'"
Not a good way to start a thread if all you wanted was fair opinions and good counter arguments.
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| Quote ="deeHell"I was coming out with a fair opinion regarding P/R and franchising. As a passionate supporter of P/R I was hoping someone would give a good counter argument. That sadly has not materialized and if anything has made me more convinced that my opinion is the strongest.
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Quote ="deeHell"And same could be said about you and Wakefield, but it didn't stop you voicing an opinion!'"
I wish there was such thing as CTL+ALT+FLUSH INTO THE TOILET.
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| Quote ="deeHell"I've displayed no bitterness what so ever, I've had much bitterness directed at me including name calling that you are now resorting to.
You know your winning the argument when people start calling instead of debating!
The truth is I have come out with what is an unpopular opinion amongst Widnes fans. Some people need to look up the word forum in a dictionary.
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You lost any arguement with your first post, you have ignored previous posts because you simply cannot form any sort of counter arguement as you know were correct in everything we say.
Quite simply you have been shot down and are now simply embarrasing yourself.
Feel free to carry on so the reading public can laugh at you some more.
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| Quote ="deeHell"I was coming out with a fair opinion regarding P/R and franchising. =#000000As a passionate supporter of P/R I was hoping someone would give a good counter argument. That sadly has not materialized and if anything has made me more convinced that my opinion is the strongest.
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I think Mr Mensa has finally realised that most people on here do not support the licensing process.
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| Quote ="-VIKINGMAN-"You lost any arguement with your first post, you have ignored previous posts because you simply cannot form any sort of counter arguement as you know were correct in everything we say.
Quite simply you have been shot down and are now simply embarrasing yourself.
Feel free to carry on so the reading public can laugh at you some more.'"
I believe I have answered a questions asked off me although not a an individual basis but in a broad way as a lot of them were pretty similar points.
Now can you return the favor and answer why you think Wakefield are the most vulnerable of all the current SL franchises?
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| You really are papping yourself about the next round of applications If you wasn't you wouldn't be doing all this trolling
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| Quote ="deeHell"I believe I have answered a questions asked off me although not a an individual basis but in a broad way as a lot of them were pretty similar points.
Now can you return the favor and answer why you think Wakefield are the most vulnerable of all the current SL franchises?'"
Okay for starters you are the weakest in Yorkshire in terms of Support (fan base) Cas have much more going for them IMO and the support they get for a town that size is remarkable.
Secondly your stadium is garbage the worst in Super League, balls to the plans until a brick is laid you wont convince me it will be ready for 2012.
And finally money problems '12 weeks to raise and pay HM revenue £192,000 or face being wound up'
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| Quote ="deeHell"I believe I have answered a questions asked off me although not a an individual basis but in a broad way as a lot of them were pretty similar points.
=#000000Now can you return the favor and answer why you think Wakefield are the most vulnerable of all the current SL franchises?'"
Harlequins and Celtic (if they survive) are a shoo-in. Cas and Hull KR have bigger crowds and slightly better stadia than Wakefield. Salford are a tough one to call, Leigh should have got in before them last time so there is something the RFL like about them despite poor attendances and a ground that is again slightly better than Wakefield's. There is also the imbalance East of the Pennines so a West Yorkshire club is the most likely to go.The biggest black mark for Wakefield came when they faced a winding up order from the IR. It is a symptom that could indicate a more serious underlying concern.
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| Quote ="rufustanner"Harlequins and Celtic (if they survive) are a shoo-in. Cas and Hull KR have bigger crowds and slightly better stadia than Wakefield. Salford are a tough one to call, Leigh should have got in before them last time so there is something the RFL like about them despite mickey poor attendances and a ground that is again slightly better than Wakefield's. [size=150There is also in imbalance of East of the Pennines so a West Yorkshire club is the most likely to go.[/sizeThe biggest black mark for Wakefield came when they faced a winding up order from the IR. It is a symptom that could indicate a more serious underlying concern.'"
Well said that is another reason.
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| Quote ="Soldierboy"Your defo troll of the year and a cocksucker.Well if it was on best team in championship go up and worst in superleague go down i would agree.If no salary cap i am sure ste oconnor would splash his money to smash the league.At the end of the day, if got great players and a good coach you can win the league.You lucky to have a great coach in kear.Why you here when your team is in superleague already? Most wakey fans ok except cocks like you need windmilling.
All teams would like superleague and to come here spouting is a disgrace.Why wakey got the god given right aswell?To stop animosity i prefer promotion and relegation every year.I think if this was the case i be confident widnes would go up if could spend.So go away until got a goodpoint you wakey idiot.'"
No need for all the insults soldier boy. you had your chance of super league and blew it, all you had to do was beat the cas scumbags. like deehell says you do not deserve a franchise because your team is simply not good enough FACT! you may have a nice stadium but the main point of the franchise is how competitive you are as a team and you fail badly in that department
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| Quote ="stantrin"No need for all the insults soldier boy. you had your chance of super league and blew it, all you had to do was beat the cas scumbags. like deehell says you do not deserve a franchise because your team is simply not good enough FACT! you may have a nice stadium but the main point of the franchise is how competitive you are as a team and you fail badly in that department'"
How do we fail badly? we have been in numerous finals over the last 5 years and won 2 of them is that not competitive? and exactly how many finals have Wakefield been involved in recently?
You may want to call Cas scumbags but considering they are your small neighbours they kick your ass in terms of support and character.
Ask any fan in this division, Widnes are the team that they all look to beat, that isnt being big headed it's a fact. Wakefield are running scared, Rugby League is a business these days and our business plan will prove successful come 2012.
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| Quote ="stantrin"the main point of the franchise is how competitive you are as a team '"
No it isn't.
Sad but true. It isn't.
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| Tin pot finals!! as for Cas they are always good to beat pity you didnt.
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| Quote ="stantrin"Tin pot finals!! as for Cas they are always good to beat pity you didnt.
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Hang on, remind us all of the last final you lot won which wasn't Tin Pot .
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| Quote ="Redchemic"icon_iamwithstupid.gif
Hang on, remind us all of the last final you lot won which wasn't Tin Pot
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I can't remember myself,probably around the time Richard Harris was in that film this sporting life.I saw a re-run of it the other day and,apart from the Butlins flats,Belle Vue hasn't changed at all.I am so pleased about the new stadium.Can't wait to see the local derby against Featherstone live on Thursday from there.
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| Quote ="GSF"apart from the Butlins flats,Belle Vue hasn't changed at all.'"
That's a damn lie.
It's now in colour.
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| Quote ="stantrin"No need for all the insults soldier boy. you had your chance of super league and blew it, all you had to do was beat the cas scumbags. like deehell says you do not deserve a franchise because your team is simply not good enough FACT! you may have a nice stadium but the =#FF0000main point of the franchise is how competitive you are as a team and you fail badly in that department'"
Er you seem to have a problem understanding what has been happening for the last few years , On field has now been replaced with the quality of your toilets , and yours stink
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| Quote ="deeHell"I've displayed no bitterness what so ever, I've had much bitterness directed at me including name calling that you are now resorting to.
You know your winning the argument when people start calling instead of debating!
The truth is I have come out with what is an unpopular opinion amongst Widnes fans. Some people need to look up the word forum in a dictionary.
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The truth is you've come out crying with a bunch of ill informed, unsubstantiated nonsense. You've nothing worth even arguing against. You've come onto our forum spouting a bunch of crap about Widnes then start moaning when we question your motives and your own club's sustainability in Super League. You've failed to answer any question that has been asked of you and changed the subject completely.
It's not difficult to see what you're doing. Only an utter moron would convince themselves otherwise.
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| Quote ="stantrin"No need for all the insults soldier boy. you had your chance of super league and blew it, all you had to do was beat the cas scumbags. like deehell says you do not deserve a franchise because your team is simply not good enough FACT! you may have a nice stadium but the main point of the franchise is how competitive you are as a team and you fail badly in that department'"
And out of the duelling banjo playing depths of inbred Yorkshire comes another ill informed troll.....
We've already tried explaining to you the facts about the franchise process which you seem blissfully ignorant of. We've already satisfied the on field criteria in winning the 'tin pot' trophy as you call it. I know it's difficult for an inbred like yourself to understand but the main point of the franchise has nothing to do with competitiveness but you wouldn't know that because Wakefield barely scrape through in any of those other criteria and fail even more when it comes to that crumbling stadium of yours and your incredibly bad looking finances.
Keep making fools of yourselves. You've both come on here and launched unprovoked diatribes of bull at us without any good reason whatsoever other than to try and kid yourselves into thinking you're going to survive the next round of franchises no problem.
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| Quote ="SRC"www.barr.co.uk/brochures/stadia.pdf ..... page 8. £6.8M actually, I was a tad under.'"
Interesting that the proposed new stadium at Wakefield is being quoted at £ 19 million without the cost of the land in the interview on the Wildcats site
I'd give Sir Rodney a ring , you could save him a fair wedge of dosh
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| Quote ="stantrin"No need for all the insults soldier boy. you had your chance of super league and blew it, all you had to do was beat the cas scumbags. like deehell says you do not deserve a franchise because your team is simply not good enough FACT! you may have a nice stadium but the main point of the franchise is how competitive you are as a team and you fail badly in that department'"
You related to dee hall by the way?Fact you are only allowed to have a salary cap of £300,000 in this league so it inevitable,all teams be close to each other.Superleague you can be on a low 1.2 million or 1.8 million, which some teams can spend £600,000 more than another team.Fact it not about teams winning grand final it about franchise sytem.Like it or not that is life.We where kicked out for a french team which i thought was unfair.Hey it seems you and your wakey mate got the problem posting on here.Like going around in circles and forget we have been to 2 grand finals and was gutted we lost in both.Won 2 northern rail finals and i know ste o connor got the money, and it talks.Look at football teams such as chelsea and man city.May not like it but that life.Fact again.So please stop going around in circles and if have a problem go to rfl,or i be happy to talk to you in person.
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| I know if wakefield where in national league as long as widnes you be suffering more now.So jog on.
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| Quote ="-VIKINGMAN-"Okay for starters you are the weakest in Yorkshire in terms of Support (fan base) Cas have much more going for them IMO and the support they get for a town that size is remarkable.
Secondly your stadium is garbage the worst in Super League, balls to the plans until a brick is laid you wont convince me it will be ready for 2012.
And finally money problems '12 weeks to raise and pay HM revenue £192,000 or face being wound up''"
Point 1, we are on an equal footy with Cas and Huddersfield when it comes to franchise points regarding attendances....Fact!
Point 2, that's just an a opinion of yours. When it comes to franchise on stadiums points we score the same as Cas, Bradford, Salford and Hull KR. In other words they are all dumps and score nothing.
Point 3, much to your disappointment all bills have now been paid. As a Widens fan I would feel a bit embarrassed about bringing up such a subject considering your recent history.
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