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Or so say the Daily Post
www.liverpooldailypost.co.uk/spo ... -22943082/
Not sure but I suspect this is more lazy journalism with the story mostly coming from messageboards.
I would not be unhappy with this appointment if it happened. He certainly had Warrington throwing the ball around.
The past is the past...
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Or so say the Daily Post
www.liverpooldailypost.co.uk/spo ... -22943082/
Not sure but I suspect this is more lazy journalism with the story mostly coming from messageboards.
I would not be unhappy with this appointment if it happened. He certainly had Warrington throwing the ball around.
The past is the past...
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| Correct, he's a proven super league coach who likes expansive rugby, did a very good job for Haven and progressed Warrington well before in many peoples eyes taking them as far as he could.
A good option for the job IMO, i dont care if he's a wire, if he wants to do it and is fully commited then he gets my vote.
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| Quote ="-VIKINGMAN-"Correct, he's a proven super league coach who likes expansive rugby, did a very good job for Haven and progressed Warrington well before in many peoples eyes taking them as far as he could.
A good option for the job IMO, i dont care if he's a wire, if he wants to do it and is fully commited then he gets my vote.'"
Agreed. If hes fully commited, he'll go very well, regardless of whether hes a wire
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| Quote ="-VIKINGMAN-"Correct, he's a proven super league coach who likes expansive rugby, did a very good job for Haven and progressed Warrington well before in many peoples eyes taking them as far as he could.
A good option for the job IMO, i dont care if he's a wire, if he wants to do it and is fully commited then he gets my vote.'"
What has he proven?. If you give him a full salary cap and sign top players he serially under performs?
His Tv analysis is just waffle + cliches.
I like Widnes and would like to see you in SL next time round. There are many coaches better than Cullen.
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| Quote ="Marsdengiant"What has he proven?. If you give him a full salary cap and sign top players he serially under performs?
His Tv analysis is just waffle + cliches.
I like Widnes and would like to see you in SL next time round. There are many coaches better than Cullen.'"
Agreed.
That story is just based on reading message boards.
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| Quote ="Marsdengiant"There are many coaches better than Cullen.'"
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| Looks like they may be giving Stanky a chance?
O'Connor added [i"We've sat down with John and talked about where we're going and he's excited about the challenge ahead.”[/i
[urlhttp://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/widnes/2009/02/17/vikings-in-no-rush-to-act-100252-22945056/[/url
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| Quote ="Marsdengiant"What has he proven?. If you give him a full salary cap and sign top players he serially under performs?
His Tv analysis is just waffle + cliches.
I like Widnes and would like to see you in SL next time round. There are
many coaches better than Cullen.'"
I'm sure there are, but are they available and will they come to a club that is going to be languishing in the Championship for the next three years at least
In terms of the underachieving, at the moment I am not really bothered about overthrowing Leeds or Saints to win SL. I want a coach who is capable of winning enough games to get us the GF appearance or NR win that we need and someone who is not afraid of letting his team throw the ball about.
I think Cullen can tick both boxes. For now it's rumour and speculation but I wouldn't be unhappy if it turned out to be true.
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| Quote ="In EnemyTerritory"I'm sure there are, but are they available and will they come to a club that is going to be languishing in the Championship for the next three years at least
In terms of the underachieving, at the moment I am not really bothered about overthrowing Leeds or Saints to win SL. I want a coach who is capable of winning enough games to get us the GF appearance or NR win that we need and someone who is not afraid of letting his team throw the ball about. I think Cullen can tick both boxes. For now it's rumour and speculation but I wouldn't be unhappy if it turned out to be true.'"
Cullen has consitently proved he cannot do this with a top squad of players. If you just want the ball 'throwing around' appoint a basketball coach.
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| Quote ="Skrewdriver"Not a bad man for the job, :yuf1mzj4we could do worse...[/
Not much a criterion for appointing a coach.
Can you 'affordably' get someone better than Cullen? I think you can.
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| Quote ="Pepe"Looks like they may be giving Stanky a chance?
O'Connor added [i"We've sat down with John and talked about where we're going and he's excited about the challenge ahead.”[/i
[urlhttp://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/widnes/2009/02/17/vikings-in-no-rush-to-act-100252-22945056/[/url'"
Also in this article;
Quote Speaking exclusively to the Liverpool Echo, Vikings' chairman-owner Steve O'Connor revealed he has already had expressions of interest in the vacant post.
He said "We've had four CVs already and we haven't even asked for them!'"
If I'm honest, I'd like to see Stanky given his chance.
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| We could always try an Aussie coach for once.
They seem to know a bit about the game down under.
Think we're one of about 2 or 3 clubs never to have had an Aussie in charge.
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A good option for the job IMO, i dont care if he's a wire, if he wants to do it and is fully commited then he gets my vote.'"
Hope you don't minds my lurking on here, was interested to see Widnes fans' responses to the situation.
Its good to see a positive reception to a British coach. We tend to write of a Superleague coach after one club and always focus on the recent past rather than looking at their careers as a whole.
Things had clearly gone stale at Wire under Cullen, but his record of developing the club was impressive. Down under, when a coach gets a bit stale at a club, they tend to move onto the next one, and revitalise whereas British SL coaches just get written off.
He'd be a good choice all round I think. The other thing to mention on his CV I suppose would be the development of the club whilst he was there. He wasn't necessarily pivotal to that, but was around during a period of revitalisation (god "vitalise" must be my word of the day ). Widnes should and will be going places in the next few seasons and I think he's got the right ingredients to be at the helm.
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| Quote ="bestgameofall"Hope you don't minds my lurking on here, was interested to see Widnes fans' responses to the situation.
Its good to see a positive reception to a British coach. We tend to write of a Superleague coach after one club and always focus on the recent past rather than looking at their careers as a whole.
Things had clearly gone stale at Wire under Cullen, but his record of developing the club was impressive. Down under, when a coach gets a bit stale at a club, they tend to move onto the next one, and revitalise whereas British SL coaches just get written off.
He'd be a good choice all round I think. The other thing to mention on his CV I suppose would be the development of the club whilst he was there. He wasn't necessarily pivotal to that, but was around during a period of revitalisation (god "vitalise" must be my word of the day ). Widnes should and will be going places in the next few seasons and I think he's got the right ingredients to be at the helm.'"
'Revitalisation' has been going on since last year. We already have an all-round set up that is better most SL clubs. The youth development is programme we now have in place is probably unique in the game and is regarded as ground breaking.
There is nothing Paul Cullen could add to that, except coach a winning senior side. That's all that's missing now. The only question is, can Paul Cullen do that?
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| Quote ="Pepe"'Revitalisation' has been going on since last year. We already have an all-round set up that is better most SL clubs. The youth development is programme we now have in place is probably unique in the game and is regarded as ground breaking.
There is nothing Paul Cullen could add to that, except coach a winning senior side. That's all that's missing now. The only question is, can Paul Cullen do that?
Personally I have my doubts.'"
To be honest though Pepe is there a great deal of difference between say Cullen and Jon Sharpe?
Any coach that we employ next will most likely be out of work because they have either been sacked or left a club of there own accord ie Hanley.
A tough choice to make and im glad it isnt me on the panel choosing.
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| Quote ="Fingerposts Finest"my personal choice would be [size=150martin crompton[/size, but cullen would be an excellent appointment.'"
Let us all be greatful that you are not at the helm.
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why??????????
he has performed jesus like miracles at blackpool, and was the brains behind the promotion push and when he left the assistant's post we certainly went backwards.
CROMPO for me as well!!
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| Quote ="Fingerposts Finest"why??????????
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CROMPO for me as well!!'"
Please explain these Jesus like miracles?
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| Quote ="-VIKINGMAN-"Please explain these Jesus like miracles?
He's assembled a decent enough squad for this year but is totally unproven, he was a good player for us your correct in that but he remains unproven as a coach.'"
from being the leagues whipping boys to play off contenders..............
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just to throw a spanner in the works.............i have heard from an extremely reliable source that dave woods was approached before mc cormack got the bullet....
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| Quote ="-VIKINGMAN-"To be honest though Pepe is there a great deal of difference between say Cullen and Jon Sharpe?
Any coach that we employ next will most likely be out of work because they have either been sacked or left a club of there own accord ie Hanley.
A tough choice to make and im glad it isnt me on the panel choosing.'"
Yes.
Jon Sharp was able to create a well organised side with a lot less funds than Cullen had.
That's what Widnes need. A coach who can organise the team. A John Kear type coach with a great tactical acumen, who can spot a good player at a reasonable price and work with what he has. We shouldn't be bringing in coaches because they have a reputation of getting big name stars to throw the ball around. Any fool can do that.
I think Jon Sharp is the closest thing, who may possibly be available, that can do that.
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