Positives

1. Good following from you lot - big plus for Super League
2. Davies and Mullally excellent
3. Hulmes defence on your left side in the second half

Negatives

1. Scott Moore - complete liability - will cost you games because in Super League penalties usually turn into points

You've alot of work to do, but at least have 3 years to build

All the best for 2012 (except on the three days you play us)

Never went the game but I am not at all surprised that mullally is on your positive list.I think he will be a star player for widnes this coming year.

If I remember correctly, Mullally played well for your lot last Boxing Day before his stint in Australia. He looks a real handful in attack and could make a great impact player for you this year.

Positives: your kit looked nice.
Negatives: you couldn't keep hold of the ball.
Looked clueless at times.
The negative needs sorting quick as established teams will put 20 + on you before you know it. Then it will be damage limitation time for the rest of the game.

Your lads were putting a lot of effort in, impressive for a friendly. Looked miles off Super League though, you would've given away a lot more penalties than you did in a normal game.

Positives: a good bench mark for Dennis to take away and work with

Negatives: How fast Wire Fans were on here to take the mick, and somehow beleive they've written the Rugby League guide to success. but, some things will never change.

I hope, for you guys, than Dennis takes what he needs to out of the game, and works with the team over the next few weeks... let's have some Widnes Wins this season (just not against Wigan).

Not a surprise that the Wire are on here taking the .They have all played together as a fulltime team for years and ours a new team.We will get better and with squad 18 and 19 still to be signed we will improve.I am unsure of Betts as a coach but we did have a few missing today like wire.Takes time to gel and I think top 10 is a reality.

Don't get ambitions mixed up with capabilities. You looked like a new team today and need to gel quick or before you know it your 4 or 5 games in without a Win. Fickle fans will vote with the feet and not turn up.

I didn't see the game today but as a Leeds fan I don't think top 10 is too unrealistic.
I don't think you will finish in the play-offs but I think the bottom will be incredibly tight, with a bit of a gap from the rest. It will be very possible to finish above Wakefield, Salford, etc.

Disagree as it like a reserves with a few first teamers just like Wire.We have two new signings still to come and a few influential players missing.It is our first run out and I predicted 10th or 11th this season.

Agree and I think the prediction of bottom will fire us up.

How did Willie Isa go? He had a tough year with injuries but was solid for us last year and I thought he had more potential ready to show with a steady run, gutted to see him leave.

willy isa was suspect in defence looked sluggish in attack and did seem to go down with a leg injury quiet funny as he was holding his leg when it all kicked off lol

I think personally it was a good game and for 10 or so minutes you had us taken aback with your second stringers against ours. you have along way to come i super league but what else is anyone going to expect?? however there is a lot of potential i think once you your team is settled in

These 2 signings! When are the coming in? Will they be fre from injury? Will they be match fit or the first 5-6?weeks of the season? Is it Billy Slater or Darren Lockyer? As stated, ambitions & capabilities. It's your first season back and your playing with an almost new team.

Seems alot of fans are pinning there hopes on these two signings they keep talking about.

Well said.



The season proper hasn't started yet although far too many people / the bookies are writing us off. It's going to be tough our first season back in SL. The team and fans should be fired up to prove some of the doubters wrong.

Negative: Wait till you come up against a full strength Wire team and not the reserves. By 'eck you'll struggle this season.

Take no notice Widnes. Happens in every sport. When Wigan Athletic got promoted to Premier League a few years ago, "they" said that they'd go straight back down. Now we're struggling to get rid of them. When Swansea came up this season, they said they'd struggle, and there they are, 15th of 20 and some great results against "established teams".

Super League isn't about form, it's about the day, how you perform on the day, and how the other team performs on the day.

I dont think for one second any Widnes fan is expecting trophies this season (though it's not impossible), and I think a top 10 prediction is not out of reach.

Take no notice of Warrington, they're jealous of Widnes, cos you've got History.

We looked like a side that had never played together before, because we haven't. I'm not reading too much into yesterday to be honest. Although Scott Moore needs to sort himself out, and Watts looked great before he went off.

Widnes fans seem very quick to get defensive about Warrington fans 'taking the mick'. Apart from a few numpties, the ones I know appreciate that Widnes are starting from a difficult position but will get better as the season and the licensing period goes on.

From a personal perspective I wouldn't like Widnes to be whipping boys as I enjoy a competitive derby. I think Widnes should certainly be aiming for top 10, but realistically anything that isn't bottom must be seen as a relative success in 2012.

Yes mate and lost to Leeds in the playoffs after saying they take a clean sweep.



Have a few good years and they get so arrogant some of their fans.To be honest i be happy to come 11th or 12th this year, as dont expect much.But some of our fans will whinge alot if ended up at the bottom and be asking for Betts to be sacked.Anyway thankyou for the kind words, unlike some Wire fans on here.My idiot Wire friend sent me 20 childish txts to my phone and shows their mentality.

I'm a Wigan fan, but nevermind.

You say Widnes Fans but want us to make a distinction between Wire fans and a "few numpties". It doesn't work out that way I am afraid. You can't generalise on us and then ask others not to do so to your fans.

Anyway, let's not get carried away here.

It was a friendly. And I say this every time regardless of the result. They mean nothing. Other than getting the fans to view the players, a bit of rugby in an otherwise barren period. Our first match together, away to the league leaders last year, and we're not disgraced. Out of sorts, but we looked like a team who have not had a lot of time together, unlike every other team in the league we will have this problem early on. We're playing catch up, everyone has been given a head start on us and many do not deserve it.

People take what they want from friendlies. If you lose, so what, if you win, they're mega important. I try to stay consistent on this myself. It's no great worry at this stage of our life that we're not beating the wire away from home especially when we've got players like Watts going off.

The real meal is to come. This wasn't even an hor d'oeuvres.