Just wondered how other Widnes fans feel about Widnes and the game in general.
After over 40 years of watching Widnes and RL I am slowly losing enthusiasm for Widnes and RL. I have not enjoyed going to the game for the last few seasons, but feel I have to go through loyalty.
However I feel SOC has made some massive mistakes, particularly in the choice of Betts and Cullen. We should have gone into SL with a coach with the correct experience and whom could attract the right players. As of now we have a coach whom is well out of his depth, together we a squad of very ordinary players, many who are injury prone.
How does the club seriously expect to attract new fans along with the current set up.
I cannot believe that people were taken in by the recent display against Leeds. Agreed it was full of enthusiasm, but very little skill. Our tries were not created by crafty half back play or dummy runners, pure luck with a bounce of the ball. Our tackling was again at times woeful, Leeds running through holes in our defensive line in exactly the same place numerous times. and this was a Leeds team who were just coasting through 80 minutes.
I know I am not alone in my feelings for the club as I have spoken to other Widnes supporters whom feel exactly the same way and are seriously considering why the continue to go to matches.
I know people will come on here and shoot me down ( not in the same manner as the terrible TIW forum ) but as I say these are the feelings of a number of supporters.

The terrible TiW forum thar is 90% posts exactly like this one?

No the terrible TIW which gets replies like yours, exactly what I thought may happen.

Beat me to it J2O - seems like this forum may be attracting a certain TiW type!

Why didn't you post it on there then?

Believe it or not this how a lot of Widnes fans feel, unfortunately people like you can see little wrong.

How do you know my POV if I haven't given it?

Don't fight amongst yourselves, that's our forte.

So what is your POV ?
Which was my point of the post, are the majority of people happy with the set up.
The club are in real danger of losing current fans never mind attracting new ones. We should all be concerned with that.
Unfortunately it seems if you post something which is against the club you get shot down by the same people.
And yes I have posted my views on TIW, unfortunately I like many others have given up with the TIW board.
To be honest I have always seen this forum as more open and fair than TIW.

Love Widnes, Love the game.

well its Good to know your not on your own and i like yourelf, been there through good and bad agree that this Once great club is a total embarresment from the top to the bottom dont think the relisation of the job in task ! I love widnes through and through but sorry this has to be said , Dont really think people on this forum relise how poor things are , ive posted on here before and been shot me down in the past but one things for sure this is just what i predicted last year so

Incorrect we do know.

We just don't need to be reminded EVERY DAY with the same posts. Especially days before a fresh game. By all means rant away post a bad performance buy people who bring it up time and time again just get tiresome.

The only things poor at the club at the moment is the first team results / performances. No-one has missed that nor said otherwise.

However trying to right off evey aspect of the club as some have done is beyond ludicrous. Fans of Widnes are never happy. Sometimes that's a positives however in times when the club needs support it's a major weakness.

Mate I see what you are saying and I would like a quality coach too.Someone like Noble?Never will be a fan of Betts.

Which was sort of the point of my replies.

Nothing against Lucifer but just fed up of reading and hearing the same old thing. Slagging off at the match or on here is exactly the same counterproductive rubbish that will drive fans away, the same as poor performances do.

It ain't gonna get better overnight and we ain't gonna win a Grand Final any time soon. It's a long haul but if Betts goes today, it won't make a lot of difference for months or even to next season unless we can recruit class acts now - guess what - we ain't gonna get any class acts any time soon!

the OP serves no purpose really what did you honestly expect in your first season you will finish bottom like a lot of people predicted and then come back stronger next season with better players same as all clubs who come up

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I don't mind people having a pop in the aftermath that's what fans do! It's just when it drags on all week and get's to levels of people telling others not to bother going (WTF). Some people seem to think by reducing our fan support by them and their mates they are doing the club the world of good... ridiculous!

It's worth pointing out that less than five years ago we didn't even have a club. Now we're in Super League. I'm quite happy with how things are going as it happens.

4 games into the season and people running the club down! I just don't get it. Seriously,did these people expect much more this early cos I know I didn't. It's nobody's fault if better players were not available/didn't want to come here,we've seen some signs of improvement of late so let's stick with the team and we'll get there,may take a while but we WILL!

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Whats happened to bustinytinyballs or whatever her name is, dosent seem to post much these days. Was always good for a sound post...?

This.
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Or do they?

There are also a lot who believe that SO'C and his team --- who got us back into SL, incidentally --- are heading in the right direction.

The fact that we have not won yet, and the manner of our losing against Wakefield and Huddersfield was shocking, should examine the improvement we showed in the second half against Salford and the way we played against Leeds.

Do you include SO'C?

The fact that you predicted a poor performance last year does not alter my belief that if we had won the first four matches you would have been saying that it is just a flash in the pan.

Don't think you are being shot down, but just disregarded as one of the few permanent doom and gloom brigade.

Maybe some of these feelings have been caused by SOC's 'We're not going into SL to make up the numbers' line but
a) I genuinely think that there wasn't the appreciation at the time of the difficulties in recruiting top quality players
b) that we are only a few weeks into a 3 year long project
c) that SOC will act if he doesn't think that the coach cuts the mustard.
People asked for a response against Leeds and that is what we got. Surprise surprise it wasn't the finished article but it was better and hopefully we will improve as the weeks go by. Losing Watts is a massive blow and must be like Hudds losing Brough, Cas losing Chase, Salford losing Holdsworth...
We have the basis of a SL squad now and I think we will add to it and improve in years two and three.
Fans that walk away are never lost for ever!!! they will soon flock back when there are more victories and they'll be going on about how great a fan they are singing 'Widnes til I die.'

This isn't 1990... we aren't coming off the back of a WCC and League Championship win, we haven't been adding the games best players to an already established league and cup winning side. We have been out of the top flight for 6 years and it may take more than a few weeks for us to begin to look like we truly belong in SL again from a playing perspective.