Of course Fax fans were being arrogant: my sig for one was typical of their fans earlier in the season. I remember reading on their site once and thier fans were looking at the upcoming fixtures saying things like "none of those sides will trouble us" - not to mention all the times our board would be full of Fax fans telling us how great players like Beswick are.

Woahh.. little hornets nest stirred up there me thinks...

My post was a little tongue in cheek to be honest and I fully expect Fev to be pushing on at the end of this year and probably next.

Regarding ambition, I'm sure that Fev have plenty and I have heard about the plans for the ground and you have a decent coach there and Harris was a bit of a coup for you also.

Honestly though.... in the short term future (in the next 2 - 3 years ) I think Widnes will continue to be the club with the best set up in this competition. There's a lot of catching up needed by all the others.

Is it just me who finds this a slightly bit tedius? Why do relevant threads always get de-railed and turned into some kind of cyber war.

Anyway.....
Jonny Grayshon. Do you think he will stay with you?
Has he been good for you?
Is he a fans favourite?
Always thought there was "something" missing that would have made him a great player (just couldn't put my finger on it).

I think he's been great. Has run in quite strong, scored a few tries and set up a few chances with a few intelligent off-loads.

The only issue regarding "something missing", could be the 2nd row/prop argument. Not sure if he's a 2nd row, but at the same time, maybe not quite heavy enough to be an effective prop?

Very good player at this level though.