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| WE HAD AT THE TIME NEW ZEA LANDS NO1 HOOKER IN TONY....SO TO ACCOMODATE BERRIGAN WE HAD TO RELEASE BRISCOE!! SINCE THIS MOVE IT HAS BEEN A JOKE AT FC...I CANT SAY NOMORE BECAUSE IM FUMING..SORRY
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| Quote ="gostrider"I disagree with the Berrigan comment. At the time of Swain retiring, yes we needed Berrigan - has he been as influential as Swain. sadly not. However to me the signing of Dykes was key. Finally a coach in Sharp recognised we needed a top scrum half, unfortunately he was made of bolsar wood. The failing was then to replace him wit quality. Its the most integral part of a team. Fitzgibbon to me is just a 'appease the fans as Crocker aint coming signing' - and a poor one at that.'"
at the time i dont think we needed a hooker, we had wayne godwin and danny houghton, a scrum half was what we needed, we was after monaghan but was priced out by wire, so we went for berrigan so we had a name coming in
fitzgibbon is a panic signing i think
mcrae also said we needed a scrum half when he was here, we went after thorman who wasnt a bad player back then, danny orr we was after aswell
but it isnt a coincidence that when we had matty head and adam dykes playing we were a different side
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| Quote ="FC Callum"at the time i dont think we needed a hooker, we had wayne godwin and danny houghton, a scrum half was what we needed, we was after monaghan but was priced out by wire, so we went for berrigan so we had a name coming in
fitzgibbon is a panic signing i think
mcrae also said we needed a scrum half when he was here, we went after thorman who wasnt a bad player back then, danny orr we was after aswell
but it isnt a coincidence that when we had matty head and adam dykes playing we were a different side'"
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| Quote ="berro's best mate"AGREED'"
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| Quote ="berro's best mate"WE HAD AT THE TIME NEW ZEA LANDS NO1 HOOKER IN TONY....SO TO ACCOMODATE BERRIGAN WE HAD TO RELEASE BRISCOE!! SINCE THIS MOVE IT HAS BEEN A JOKE AT FC...I CANT SAY NOMORE BECAUSE IM FUMING..SORRY
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True we could have filled Hooker at the time. Although I do like the Berro signing. He is however let down by the lack of speed at the play the ball.
To see Briscoe come on at the robins does hurt but I think if we had of kicked on after Kear and brought in a top class coach and half back combination it would be us now sat at the top
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| Quote ="Lee_A"Im no Thorman fan but he is playing behind the worst set of forwards in SL (barring possibly Celtic). Its questionable if he could do anything ball in hand on the opposition line, but we are never going to know playing in a side with Dowes, Cusack et al in it.'"
sorry but that is absolute boll0x! Thorman like the men who brought him here , Agar and Sharp ( Crooks , Last et al ) is a proved failure. It's Thorman , OK not single handedly , who is draining our forwards of energy with his absolutely inept kicking. Worse still is that there are no saving graces. It's not as though it's his kicking game that is poor just now but his defence , passing , stepping , etc is great is it. The really depressing thing is that by spending a fortune on Fitzgibbon , a player by his own admission that wants to stay in the NRL but knew he couldn't , it looks like our SH for 2010 and beyond is going to be the geordie boy.
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| The sad thing is that he did nothing wrong when he was with Huddersfield but since he's come to you he has been truly awfull. Can't believe he has the nerve to take a wage home after such an awfull display last night. Needs to take a long, hard look at himself and then do your club a favour and launch himself off the Humber Bridge.
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| Quote ="FC Callum"i honestly dont understand why he was signed in the first place
jon sharpe signed luke robinson to play scrum half for 2008 so thorman moved to full back because he wasnt good enough
so how come 1 year later he is suddenly good enough to play there for us
complete lack of common sense'"
That's a question I've been asking sincee we signed Thorman, And one I've put to both Agar and Sharp without getting an answer.
Why did we get rid of Webster to sign Thorman, I for one hope everything I'm hearing about Webster coming back is true.
Simple fact is since Mcrae left we haven't gone forward as a club we've gone backwards and it's all down to one person at the club Kath Hetherington, The sooner she is gone the better we may then get a top class coach as well as some decent players..
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| Quote ="berro's best mate"WE HAD AT THE TIME NEW ZEA LANDS NO1 HOOKER IN TONY....SO TO ACCOMODATE BERRIGAN WE HAD TO RELEASE BRISCOE!! '"
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| Quote ="berro's best mate"WE HAD AT THE TIME NEW ZEA LANDS NO1 HOOKER IN TONY....SO TO ACCOMODATE BERRIGAN WE HAD TO RELEASE BRISCOE!! SINCE THIS MOVE IT HAS BEEN A JOKE AT FC...I CANT SAY NOMORE BECAUSE IM FUMING..SORRY
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What?
Im split on the Fitzgibbon signing but this signing could be Kearneyesq??
From what i hear,he will be replacing another back-rower and that will be like for like,also i would appoint him captain....how do we know we havent got a S/H lined up???
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| Quote ="Bransholme Red"The sad thing is that he did nothing wrong when he was with Huddersfield but since he's come to you he has been truly awfull.'"
Nonsense. He was junk for Huddersfield last season - so poor that he spent half the season at FB. This signing had 'disaster' written all over it from the start.
We should have kept Dykes playing on one leg.
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| Quote ="Kosh"Nonsense. He was junk for Huddersfield last season - so poor that he spent half the season at FB. This signing had 'disaster' written all over it from the start.
We should have kept Dykes playing on one leg.'"
Could we have got Dykes fit in the off-season?
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| Quote ="fc baldy"Could we have got Dykes fit in the off-season?'"
Think he was due to have surgery which was to rule him out until around now.
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| Quote ="fc baldy"Could we have got Dykes fit in the off-season?'"
Guess that depends on what the medical reports on his knee were like. He'd had the underlying injury for some time and was no spring chicken - maybe the prognosis was that he'd always have issues.
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| Quote ="ComeOnYouUll"Think he was due to have surgery which was to rule him out until around now.'"
Hmmmmmmm......A bit like Tony and Raynor then.
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| I couldn't agree more with the op.
Some of the rest on this thread is questionable. But its all opinions and we are all entitled to them. Apart from the expert Rovers fans who know nowt.!!!
We need a full back, who is a specialist.
We need two new centres. Most say 1 but we need competion. Briscoe and 2 others will create that.
Whiting needs to be more central. His reading of a game is probably the best at the club. I appreciate that he needs to prove his fitness, but of all the ones who need to do this at the club he is the one who offers the most.
Horne could be like McGuire with a decent SH. Some claim he does not create but watch McGuire and yo will see similarities. He scores for fun behind Burrows. Horne ith a decent SH would be the same.
The forwards are gone. I would retain Washy, Berro, Maloney, Burnett, Manu and Tickle (just) the rest have had their day and need to be shipped out.
As for the squad
Tony I rate him but can he come back after a bad injury, plus he wants to go home. Grant him his wish.
G Horne . Billy basic
Yeaman .. living off 05 winners medal and a GB cap. Buck up or ship out.
Lee showing signs of improvement and becoming the player we thought he might be, but jury is still out....maybe a year extra.
Houghton will learn fromBerro and Fitz and will / should / could be a international.
Calderwood has impressed me after bing a laughing stock for me and the family through his career.
Raynor, Keep for one more season and make him prove his fitness.
Hall has clearly got some talent. He has also got confidence issues. I would lo for him to be a star at the club, but he may need to go to develop into the player he should be. I can unfortunately see him making that decision with the influence of his father.
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| Thorman MP (MissingPerson) (MainlyPedestrian) etc. Don't know about second homes or expenses.
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| Quote ="hfc herts"I couldn't agree more with the op.
Some of the rest on this thread is questionable. But its all opinions and we are all entitled to them. Apart from the expert Rovers fans who know nowt.!!!
We need a full back, who is a specialist.
We need two new centres. Most say 1 but we need competion. Briscoe and 2 others will create that.
Whiting needs to be more central. His reading of a game is probably the best at the club. I appreciate that he needs to prove his fitness, but of all the ones who need to do this at the club he is the one who offers the most.
Horne could be like McGuire with a decent SH. Some claim he does not create but watch McGuire and yo will see similarities. He scores for fun behind Burrows. Horne ith a decent SH would be the same.
The forwards are gone. I would retain Washy, Berro, Maloney, Burnett, Manu and Tickle (just) the rest have had their day and need to be shipped out.
As for the squad
Tony I rate him but can he come back after a bad injury, plus he wants to go home. Grant him his wish.
G Horne . Billy basic
Yeaman .. living off 05 winners medal and a GB cap. Buck up or ship out.
Lee showing signs of improvement and becoming the player we thought he might be, but jury is still out....maybe a year extra.
Houghton will learn fromBerro and Fitz and will / should / could be a international.
Calderwood has impressed me after bing a laughing stock for me and the family through his career.
Raynor, Keep for one more season and make him prove his fitness.
Hall has clearly got some talent. He has also got confidence issues. I would lo for him to be a star at the club, but he may need to go to develop into the player he should be. I can unfortunately see him making that decision with the influence of his father.'"
Pretty much agree with all of that.
I would be tempted though to leave Horne at fullback, washy at 6 or 13 with Whiting as the other.
Whats a clear point is that we have masses of "cover" in certain positions and none in others. We had 3 hookers on the pitch at the same time last night, and Berro and Tony (hooker) off the pitch.
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| Your hookers i.e. Lee and Houghton seem to be doing ok so id suggest the best option at SH would be Berrigan. Hes the only player in your squad with the ability to do the job properly.
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| Quote ="Alex Mc"Your hookers i.e. Lee and Houghton seem to be doing ok so id suggest the best option at SH would be Berrigan. Hes the only player in your squad with the ability to do the job properly.'"
Could you please put that in writing to R.Agar .
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| And to think the amount of stick i got on here when i said Thorman is awful at scrum half and any other position at that
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| Quote ="Superbowl Scott"And to think the amount of stick i got on here when i said Thorman is awful at scrum half and any other position at that
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correct scott i was one of them,ill hold my hand up and say i was wrong,i never slate players but im afraid hes just not good enough,every other team has a leader but we dont,when berro is fit id stick him there cos lee and houghton are doing fine.
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| Quote ="wolfie"correct scott i was one of them,ill hold my hand up and say i was wrong,i never slate players but im afraid hes just not good enough,every other team has a leader but we dont,when berro is fit id stick him there cos lee and houghton are doing fine.'"
i agree and they have been two of our better and most consistent players in this shIIIIIIt season
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| Quote ="Superbowl Scott"And to think the amount of stick i got on here when i said Thorman is awful at scrum half and any other position at that
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TBF some of us did back that opinion up, although I personally hoped to be proved wrong and that he'd be OK as a 1 year stop gap signing.
We were better off last year with Dykes playing the occasional game.
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| Im confused as to how Hall can be dropped for poor performances but Thorman manages to keep getting a game?
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