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Just by referencing the HDM over the past 4 months you can find Allam contributions to Costella FC, Hull University RL team, North Ferriby FC and Hullensians RFU. An article in the HDM around the time of his Hull City takeover in 2010 stated that he had contributed money to "various local grass roots sporting clubs".
He has faults without doubt but it cant be denied that he is a very generous man.
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Just by referencing the HDM over the past 4 months you can find Allam contributions to Costella FC, Hull University RL team, North Ferriby FC and Hullensians RFU. An article in the HDM around the time of his Hull City takeover in 2010 stated that he had contributed money to "various local grass roots sporting clubs".
He has faults without doubt but it cant be denied that he is a very generous man.
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| Quote ="R.B.A"He has faults without doubt but it cant be denied that he is a very generous man.'"
It can be denied quite easily by simply looking at what he did to Johnny Whiteley.
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| Quote ="Mild mannered Janitor"Not only are you illiterate, judging by your poorly constructed posts, but you appear to lack any form of reading skills.
The SMC get a rental income. Most of which is fixed from two tenants. If they set that rent under the running costs then that's poor management on their part. Now, considering the rent agreements have been revised since the original agreements, and that the Allams took on theses (or were involved in revising them) it would appear they are not quite as business savvy as some would like to make out.
Also, if they have lost rental income, why not utilize the stadium with other events (concerts etc)
But I doubt your bright enough to think that laterally'"
What's with all the anger and abuse?
Maybe you should seek help.
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| Quote ="Kosh"It can be denied quite easily by simply looking at what he did to Johnny Whiteley.'"
It was a shocking thing to do. The photo's should be put back up immediately. However, it wasnt done as a personal attack on Johnny Whiteley but rather to get his bigger point across. It was clumsy, pretty crass but ultimately very effective.
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| Quote ="R.B.A"
He has faults without doubt but it cant be denied that he is a very generous man.'"
Or hes just writing off against Tax ?
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| Quote ="Kosh"The problem is that the club are effectively gagged by the terms of their lease. The SMC apparently aren't. That means we're only going to get one side of the story.'" And if that is true and you make a statement he has grounds to kick you out or fine you depending what the gagging order says.
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| Quote ="R.B.A"It was a shocking thing to do. The photo's should be put back up immediately. However, it wasnt done as a personal attack on Johnny Whiteley but rather to get his bigger point across. It was clumsy, pretty crass but ultimately very effective.'"
I wasn't aware that Allam had confided in you.
Whatever the underlying reasons, it was not the action of a generous man. Period.
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| Is there actually any proof of a gagging order?
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| Quote ="Anakin Skywalker"And if that is true and you make a statement he has grounds to kick you out or fine you depending what the gagging order says.'"
Correct. Although others have speculated that the confidentiality clause does in fact work in both directions and Allam has simply ignored it. All we really know is that there is a clause and it covers the tenants at least.
There is a lot more to come here, and I doubt any of it will be good.
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| Quote ="Pony685"Is there actually any proof of a gagging order?'"
What kind of proof would you like?
Someone who has seen the tenants agreements claims that there is a clause preventing discussion of details regarding the lease or rental arrangements. It seems plausible, and our previous owners certainly referred to such a clause.
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| Quote ="Kosh"What kind of proof would you like?
Someone who has seen the tenants agreements claims that there is a clause preventing discussion of details regarding the lease or rental arrangements. It seems plausible, and our previous owners certainly referred to such a clause.'"
Cheers
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| Although this Event Management company have the catering franchise it is still the SMC that sold them the franchise. Hence, we boycott the drinks and catering side and see where that takes us.
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| Quote ="Kosh"What kind of proof would you like?
Someone who has seen the tenants agreements claims that there is a clause preventing discussion of details regarding the lease or rental arrangements. It seems plausible, and our previous owners certainly referred to such a clause.'"
Not only that but also regarding defamation of the landlords and there business or anything negative towards the SMC in general
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| Quote ="Kosh"Correct. Although others have speculated that the confidentiality clause does in fact work in both directions and Allam has simply ignored it. All we really know is that there is a clause and it covers the tenants at least.
There is a lot more to come here, and I doubt any of it will be good.'" Which adds some weight to RBA's point that the JW picture situation was very nasty and uncalled for excuse to get a massive reaction of out the FC's fanbase (Which I completely agree with and support BTW).
He can now say 'Hey i'm just trying to cover my costs. If you don't believe me look'.
In other words he has poked you with a stick for a reaction and has got one (Again completely understandable IMHO).
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| Quote ="Anakin Skywalker"Which adds some weight to RBA's point that the JW picture situation was very nasty and uncalled for excuse to get a massive reaction of out the FC's fanbase (Which I completely agree with and support BTW).
He can now say 'Hey i'm just trying to cover my costs. If you don't believe me look'.
In other words he has poked you with a stick for a reaction and has got one (Again completely understandable IMHO).'"
Yes he has got one from the fans but personally think he was hoping to get one from the club.
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| Quote ="Anakin Skywalker"Which adds some weight to RBA's point that the JW picture situation was very nasty and uncalled for excuse to get a massive reaction of out the FC's fanbase (Which I completely agree with and support BTW).
He can now say 'Hey i'm just trying to cover my costs. If you don't believe me look'.
In other words he has poked you with a stick for a reaction and has got one (Again completely understandable IMHO).'"
I honestly don't think he was looking for a reaction from the fans. I think he was looking for a reaction from Pearson/FC and/or the Council. And I'm not entirely convinced that removing the JW pictures was key as that was the one thing that might generate more widespread opposition. I think the removal of memorabilia in general was meant to be the trigger and JW was collateral damage.
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| Reading the reaction of the neanderthals on the not606 thread to the SMC statement is quite embarrassing, plus I'm so glad we have a swear filter on here, as i'm not sure of the age of anyone who can join that site, but the language is atrocious.
Also, someone on there mentioned it was Paul Duffen who took a 3.5million loan out against the SMC, what's that got to do with Hull FC, Hull City or The Council? The Allams bought the SMC, the loan is their problem.
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| Quote ="Anakin Skywalker"And if that is true and you make a statement he has grounds to kick you out or fine you depending what the gagging order says.'"
And I really hope that is not what you want mate because I get the impression that you are a Rugby League supporter and if this is what you wish then we may as well pack up Super League the game has enough problems without this. If this is not what you wish keep you neb out.
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| Quote ="Kosh"I honestly don't think he was looking for a reaction from the fans. I think he was looking for a reaction from Pearson/FC and/or the Council. And I'm not entirely convinced that removing the JW pictures was key as that was the one thing that might generate more widespread opposition. I think the removal of memorabilia in general was meant to be the trigger and JW was collateral damage.'"
Fair points although it is possible that he thought that upset fans getting on the clubs back to defend itself may have dragged out a comment which was his ultimate aim.
Whatever is true it is possible that the statement today is be just him ratcheting up the pressure for the council and club to say something.
I guess my point is that I doubt this is going to be his last dice throw and the club/council may eventually be forced into a statement if their position becomes untenable.
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| Quote ="Basher"And I really hope that is not what you want mate because I get the impression that you are a Rugby League supporter and if this is what you wish then we may as well pack up Super League the game has enough problems without this. If this is not what you wish keep you neb out.'"
I suggest you read it again and this time read what I actually wrote and not what you thought I wrote.
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| Just read the not606 thread. The City fans still haven't grasped the fact that the 50 million that was "pumped into" the club was a loan. And they call us thick!
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| Quote ="Anakin Skywalker"Fair points although it is possible that he thought that upset fans getting on the clubs back to defend itself may have dragged out a comment which was his ultimate aim.
Whatever is true it is possible that the statement today is be just him ratcheting up the pressure for the council and club to say something.
I guess my point is that I doubt this is going to be his last dice throw and the club/council may eventually be forced into a statement if their position becomes untenable.'"
i'm not sure how Hull Fc's position can become untenable?
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| Quote ="Anakin Skywalker"I suggest you read it again and this time read what I actually wrote and not what you thought I wrote.'"
My apologies after reading nearly 100 pages over the last few days I have just come in and read your first post jumped in feet first - my anger at all this was taken out on you
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| My response on the not 606 thread
'Unlike some of the Hull City supporting ill educated clowns that are posting on this thread. The great saviour that is Allam has borrowed 50 million quid which is a millstone around your clubs neck and you need to get promoted to premiership to help remove it. Allam only wants one thing, the KC stadium and the surrounding land, and will stoop to whatever level to get it. If the Hull City Council came out with a statement tomorrow telling him they will never ever sell it to him, watch the reaction from Allam, and watch out for your club'
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