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| Not surprised by the missed tackle % however, do we have detailed stats for each game?
For me we have only played one game for the full 80 mins, we dropped off in the last 20 against Salford and wonder if this is distorts the stats?
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| Quote ="ComeOnYouUll"So it's wrong to call someone a happy clapper but OK to accuse someone of gushing praise?'"
What is this gushing praise anyway?
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| Quote ="Doom&Gloom Merchant"Does this mean Radford has stopped hiding behind that big gap in his tooth?'"
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| Quote ="ccs"I think it's a bit too early to be worrying about missed tackle stats. We are one of a group of 6 in the 50's.
Leeds have missed fewer tackles than us, but have the worst defensive record in the league.'"
My favourite statistic is that Danny Houghton is nowhere near the top tackler.
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| Quote ="Bombed Out"I think after just 2 games it was a pointless thread to start gushing praise on Radford but understandable after seeing who the Op was.'"
You consider the opening post of this thread to be 'gushing praise'?
Jeezus wept.
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| Quote ="downtheante"My favourite statistic is that Danny Houghton is nowhere near the top tackler.'"
I would look at a stat like that and be pleased, I said pre season I'd want DH to stop making so many tackles and make our much vaunted pack take some of the work load off him. That means he's fresher in games, his distribution doesn't drop off, hes able to make telling breaks deeper into each half and as important lessen the chance of injury/burnout at the backend of the season.
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| There is only one stat that really matters. So while we're 100%, with big winning margins and class attacking style, I'll take any other stat that goes with it. Because overall "its working" !!!
In all areas of the club, back room staff and players, they've ALL done really well, thats ALL aspects of the club.
When people do well its ok to give a pat on the back. Praise when deserved is a good thing.
When we stop playing well surely thats the time to focus on the negs ??
Onwards and upwards Hull FC.
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| Quote ="Doom&Gloom Merchant"Does this mean Radford has stopped hiding behind that big gap in his tooth?'"
Remember we played Wakey away not long after Radders had re-joined the club. as we were walking out towards the "Boxes" end, I noticed him and a few of the players walking around the pitch heads down. I thought it was a new way of warming down but when I asked him what they were doing he shouted back "Looking for my gold tooth"!!! I'm not sure he ever replaced it.
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| I didn't think Radford was the man for the job. Put ATM he's making me eat humble pie and I hope I've lots more to eat
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| Quote ="hull2524"I didn't think Radford was the man for the job. Put ATM he's making me eat humble pie and I hope I've lots more to eat'"
I'm enjoying my humble pie. It was especially delicious on Saturday served with creme anglais.
I look forward to extra helpings over the coming weeks.
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| Quote ="C for Cuckoo"I'm enjoying my humble pie. It was especially delicious on Saturday served with creme anglais.
I look forward to extra helpings over the coming weeks.'"
Smacks too much of Wiggin for me
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| Quote ="Armavinit"Smacks too much of Wiggin for me
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Maybe its the secret of their success? It cant be the leaving early or mispronouncing the word bus.
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| Quote ="knockersbumpMKII"I would look at a stat like that and be pleased, I said pre season I'd want DH to stop making so many tackles and make our much vaunted pack take some of the work load off him. That means he's fresher in games, his distribution doesn't drop off, hes able to make telling breaks deeper into each half and as important lessen the chance of injury/burnout at the backend of the season.'"
Absolutely - it's already bearing dividends in his performances. Let's hope it helps him develop his attacking play. Surely a less tired/more alert 9 will make better decisions and improve their distribution.
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| I'm a bit late to this thread but here's my thoughts.
Radford was given the job way too early, the rugby we played for a year and a half was garbage, and the criticism of him was justified. Even if we win the treble this year it doesn't make the critics wrong or fickle, because he was clearly out of his depth.
However, as last season went on he seemed to grow into the job. Whether you are a Radford fan or not you have to give him credit for the way he has kept plowing on in the face of adversity. He's got one hell of a thick skin.
Recruitment has been good, and we look like a new team this year. Everything is really promising so far, but I do think people need to calm down a bit. Wakefield were 2 from 2 last year.
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| Quote ="Mr. Zucchini Head"I'm a bit late to this thread but here's my thoughts.
Radford was given the job way too early, the rugby we played for a year and a half was garbage, and the criticism of him was justified. Even if we win the treble this year it doesn't make the critics wrong or fickle, because he was clearly out of his depth.
However, as last season went on he seemed to grow into the job. Whether you are a Radford fan or not you have to give him credit for the way he has kept plowing on in the face of adversity. He's got one hell of a thick skin.
Recruitment has been good, and we look like a new team this year. Everything is really promising so far, but I do think people need to calm down a bit. Wakefield were 2 from 2 last year.'" ess
agree with all of that, especially the calm down bit, then wait till we have played ten matches then if we are still playing as we are at the moment, not neccessarily winning them all (I wish) then we can get excited
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| Win as many as we can, play well in the matches that we do lose and I'll settle for that.
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| Ill quote myself
Quote ="Sebasteeno"Two games in and after two good performances after many bad seasons and the happy clappers are out in force with their told you sos which is fairly laughable tbh. Being an FC fan should of at least taught you not to EVER get carried away. As quick as things seem to be turning good they can equally turn bad. Radford and Pearson have done lots wrong over the last two years and beyond and two comfortable wins does not make up for that in any way. Lets see where we are at the end of the season before we all start lauding them both i reckon'"
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| There is no way Radford should be sacked or even judged at this time, big improvement this year and playing decent rugby for their at times in years.
Saying that we have to start winning again or come Easter he could be in trouble.
Did you go last night Seb?
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| Quote ="Dave K."There is no way Radford should be sacked or even judged at this time, big improvement this year and playing decent rugby for their at times in years.
Saying that we have to start winning again or come Easter he could be in trouble.
Did you go last night Seb?'"
No mate was working. Really wanted to go as i thought we'd win
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| Quote ="Sebasteeno"No mate was working. Really wanted to go as i thought we'd win'"
You are lucky to have a job where you can not only listen to the radio but also have the time and ability to post on an internet message board.
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| 2 things:
1 match winning mentality
2 Defence
Neither of those have improved nor have we obtained in last 3 seasons with Radfud
It's been time to move him on for a long long time.
In soccer he would be in the Conference at best
In Adam we Trust
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| ... odd how the loudest critics don't actually go to games.
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| Quote ="ComeOnYouUll"You are lucky to have a job where you can not only listen to the radio but also have the time and ability to post on an internet message board.'"
Indeed.
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| I have been one of the biggest critics of Radford but this season i have seen the improvement in the team he promised and i have to say we have been unlucky losing the last two games.Its the disappointment that kills us fans when we pull ourselves back into the game to take the lead only for a mistake or penalty in the final minutes to take the game away from us.
Yes there is work to be done but we have only played four games,and we have seen how good we are when confidence is high and now how we are capable of coming back into the game after conceding early tries.
I am still of the opinion this will be a good season for us,and i have seen nothing in any other teams to be afraid of.
One concern i have is Pryce and i just hope Radford insnt afraid to drop him out of loyalty like he did with Yeaman.
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| Quote ="ccs"... odd how the loudest critics don't actually go to games.'"
I live in Australia so it's damn hard. I actually went to Wakefiled away in July 2014 when we drew. I have never known an away following so quiet as FC were that day.
I also bought a season pass last season as a sign of support for the Club and Adam.
Anyway using a small type of Money Ball analysis and there are a couple of issues that bother and intrigue me.
1. Where you are after 9 rounds is almost where you finish the season. You can usually hope for an improvement of 1 place + or - and that's it. The notable exceptions are very very rare. Look at our next 5 fixtures and you could guess where we may be after 9 and also 11 games. We could easily be 7th after 9 and 11 games. Take the emotion out of it and you'll probably agree.
2. Defence - like it or no we haven't improved since Radfud took over.
4 games in - points conceded
2014 102 points 2 (H) 2 (A)
2015 82 points 2 H 2 A
2016 87 points 3 H 1 A - also arguably the easiest draw of matches of the last 3 seasons
An average of nearly 22 a game this season and 3 of theose games were at Fortress KC.
I had money on Hull to beat Wigan by 6 or more so I live in hope
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