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| Quote ="Marfa Manu"You missunderstand me, I personally want to get rid of Agar, however I heard a DOR was coming in and I posted my thoughts on it, it could turn out well if that is what AP is planning.
I do not recal a power struggle at Wire when Smith was appointed DOR ?'"
I know you think it could turn out well, I just don't understand why on earth you'd think that. Agar has clung onto a role at the club for nearly 7 years now despite all around him getting the chop, if he managed to do it again it would be little short of criminal IMO.
I haven't suggested there was a power struggle at Wire once. I'm pointing out that when J Sharpe was brought in to work with Agar it didn't go well at all because Agar wanted responsibility for everything, and it was a similar situation when Uncle Dennis was brought in... why would anyone think it would be different this time?
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| Quote ="Standee"who isn't a Hull FC player next season'"
If we want him, he'll stay.
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| Quote ="east hull FC fan"If we want him, he'll stay.'"
we don't want him
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| Quote ="east hull FC fan"If we want him, he'll stay.'"
We dont want him he aint good enough.
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| Quote ="east hull FC fan"Don't think we need a back rower tbh. I'm happy with Tickle, Manu & Westerman, backed up by Kent/Cunningham/Green. Then there's Mike Burnett who should be a bit better with a year at Quins under his belt.'"
A bit better is still not good enough.
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| Quote ="Garry Brindley Esq."I know you think it could turn out well, I just don't understand why on earth you'd think that. Agar has clung onto a role at the club for nearly 7 years now despite all around him getting the chop, if he managed to do it again it would be little short of criminal IMO.
I haven't suggested there was a power struggle at Wire once. I'm pointing out that when J Sharpe was brought in to work with Agar it didn't go well at all because Agar wanted responsibility for everything, and it was a similar situation when Uncle Dennis was brought in... why would anyone think it would be different this time?'"
Jesus calm down Gary
Your two examples are irrelevant both Sharpe & Dennis were brought in under Agar, a DOR would be above him, like Wire, there would be no power struggle as I am sure the DOR would say like it or lump it mate, or words to that effect
Hopefully none of it will happen though as Agar will be given his P45, however like I say if it does it may not be as bad as people think.
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| Quote ="Standee"we don't want him'" Why? He's not brilliant, but should be given a chance after his loan spell imo.
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| Quote ="Standee"nobody has made anything up, just discussing possibilites.'"
OK, just couldn't be bothered to read through 62 pages or drivel!
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| Quote ="Goochie"With Chan signing at Giants, we must be able to pick up one of their back rowers if Washy were to leave, even just to cover so we're not straight into kids with an injury?
2. Michael Lawrence
4. Lee Gilmour
11. Luke O’Donnell
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16. Andy Raleigh
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27. Jacob Fairbank halifax dual loan
37 Dale Ferguson
Can all play back row!'"
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| If Bomber was to come in as an advisor to help assess the players and coaching set up and oversee the Agar departure and subsequent employment of a new coach then i could live with that but it needs to be done now and not in the close season.
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| Quote ="Isaiah"You said he was [unot having a dig[/u against the Brother
Your OTT was after I pointed out his dig
In your opinion
Again, were did I have a go at east hull fan?
And..... what?'"
I commented that I didn't think it was intended as an attack although pointed out some of the language was OTT. He agreed and even apologised.
You mentioned ICM yesterday on a thread which had nothing to do with him so not in my opinion.
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| Jon Sharp was Operations Manager, I always thought that was above Agar on the org chart.
Quote ="Marfa Manu"Jesus calm down Gary
Your two examples are irrelevant both Sharpe & Dennis were brought in under Agar, a DOR would be above him, like Wire, there would be no power struggle as I am sure the DOR would say like it or lump it mate, or words to that effect
Hopefully none of it will happen though as Agar will be given his P45, however like I say if it does it may not be as bad as people think.'"
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| Tony Smith joined Warrington as Head of Coaching and not Director of Rugby. James Lowes was then appointed "first team coach". That's the same job title John Kear had under Shaun McRae at Hull.
In effect Lowes was demoted.
[urlhttp://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_league/super_league/warrington/7925533.stm[/url
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| IMO the director of rugby role [ican[/i work, but the coach has to be on board with the idea to stand any chance. It could be a decent option for us to get more rugby sensibility into the running of the club.
I don't think that Agar should fit into plans either way, though, he's simply outstayed his welcome now.
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| Quote ="carl_spackler"I don't think that Agar should fit into plans either way, though, he's simply outstayed his welcome now.'"
hang on, when was Agar EVER welcome at FC??!?!?!?
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| Quote ="Standee"hang on, when was Agar EVER welcome at FC??!?!?!?'"
More than you think,usually by the away supporters.
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| Quote ="carl_spackler"IMO the director of rugby role [ican[/i work, but the coach has to be on board with the idea to stand any chance. It could be a decent option for us to get more rugby sensibility into the running of the club.
I don't think that Agar should fit into plans either way, though, he's simply outstayed his welcome now.'"
Has there ever been an example of a DOR and a head coach working? You need to have one person in charge IMO.
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| Quote ="Standee"hang on, when was Agar EVER welcome at FC??!?!?!?'"
I was willing to give him a chance, as were plenty of others. He's had it, and failed.
He might not have ever been the man we wanted, but he was welcome to prove his worth. Arguably he did, it just wasn't much.
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| Quote ="PAUL M"I commented that I didn't think it was intended as an attack'"
you said he was not having a dig
Quote although pointed out some of the language was OTT. '"
afterwards yes.
Quote He agreed and even apologised.
You mentioned ICM yesterday on a thread which had nothing to do with him so not in my opinion.'"
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| Quote ="carl_spackler"I was willing to give him a chance, as were plenty of others. He's had it, and failed.
He might not have ever been the man we wanted, but he was welcome to prove his worth. Arguably he did, it just wasn't much.'"
fair point
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| Quote ="Old_Faithful_IAKW"Has there ever been an example of a DOR and a head coach working? You need to have one person in charge IMO.'"
Somebody else made the point, most other clubs are owned and run by people who essentially do what we'd possibly get a DOR in for.
I'd prefer we got the right coach in and didn't need to go down the DOR route, I'm just saying that it [icould[/i work with the right people, as it can actually suit both parties depending on what responsibilities they want.
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| We should be pulling out all the stops to sign Daniel Anderson before he joins the club who have just binned his brother in law
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"We should be pulling out all the stops to sign Daniel Anderson before he joins the club who have just binned his brother in law'"
dont think anderson would see rovers as potential winners of trophys, hopefuly with AP in charge we may turn the corner under anderson and win something...
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"We should be pulling out all the stops to sign Daniel Anderson before he joins the club who have just binned his brother in law'"
Would hope we are doing so regardless of what's happening across the river.
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"We should be pulling out all the stops to sign Daniel Anderson before he joins the club who have just binned his brother in law'"
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