No he's a english lad as far as i'm aware

Born in Wakfield mate

Sorry that meant to say 'Is he...'



Maybe James Webster then?

It's nobody from FC, just a Walter Mitty type

In short - A resounding NO!!

Comments from Richard Agar, "We train like champions, but on the playing field, it doesnt happen"

We must be the ONLY team in the history of teamsports,that 'practice doesnt mean perfect'!!

The performance on the field, represents the week's preparation.

Any RL player or coach past or present will say "if you prepare well, you play well"

I look at envy, how Wigan,St Helens, Warrington , and Huddersfield
are so well structured in attack and defence, so simplistic, but devasting in its effectiveness!!

We've seen Huddersfield and Catalans, overtake us, at an alarming speed,
not due to massive spending, but down to good coaching and good man-management!!

The future of Hull FC is on the line, if Agar gets a contract extension,

I fear for the future if the unthinkable happens!!

Look,the bloke is stating HIS opinion.I don`t always agree with it,but what I cannot understand is when someone posts something positive on here,the boot comes in from all angles. In a democratic society people are entitled to their opinions ,right or wrong. Why cant we debate things in a civilised manner that doesn`t involve personal abuse?

Of course we should allow him to give his opinion and we should be able to deal with him without personal abuse, but if he's wrong that should be pointed out, and not just because he's positive

I`m not saying it is wrong to disagree with him ,and point things out mate,but it can be done without snide comments.He is not the only one to come under the cosh if people disagree with an opinion.Myself ,I can put up with the brickbats if people disagree with me, but it can get a bit tiresome.

I don't think anyone is "happy" with 8th place so far this season nor should they be. However it isn't over yet - we are still in the cup and can get a play off spot and maybe have a run from there.

I would much rather wait until the end of the season to see what has happened and then review the coaching staff position based on what happens. A panic appointment now (eg Noble) is by no means likely to see any improvement and could easily make things worse.

What isn't needed is obsessive and tiresome Agar bashing and what kind of "fan" wants their team to lose?

If you are really that cheesed off don't go or don't renew.

And if anyone really thinks that losing is what is needed please take that attitude to the dobbins, you'll be happy and I most certainly will be.

If the icecreamman can dish it out, then surely he has to expect to receive some back.

He is the worst for starting tit for tat arguments and resorting to petty name calling when a discussion is not going his way.
Also how is sticking the boot it? I found his comments funny and thanked him for them. Not once did I call him an idiot for his views which he is entitled to have. I have disagreed with plenty on here over Agar but have always respected their right to have their own opinion.

And who are you to tell others what to do and what not to do?

It is not just about not being happy with 8th place so far this season. It is about 3 years of failure and no prospect of any improvement in the near future.

Did icecreamy once do a jackonory programme ?

OK keep going even though he and the team obviously upset you, I apologize for not realising that some people really want to part with their hard earned cash to whinge and be miserable.

Same here. A special level of either stupidity or delusion.

I am not pointing the finger at any individual bud,just saying it gets a bit o.t.t. sometimes,but hey,people are big enough to look after themselves on here.
Maybe I should just

That Leeds crossed our line successfully once upto the 71st minute was testimant to Hulls very good defence. Or, in your world does it mean the opposition are poor if your team has good defence. Strange, some of the most exciting games I have seen have been low scoring affairs, one was ever scoreless. Were both teams poor on those occasions?

Judging on Huddersfield getting gupped at Odsal suggests not everyone of the top 6 would have beaten Leeds this weekend just gone.

Its probably worth you gaining some knowledge of the game to begin with. Start with a kids game, U11's perhaps, it will be easier for you to follow.

It was partly to do with Hull's good defence, but more so Leeds' inability to catch, pass, or even carry the ball properly. They bombed about 4 or 5 straightforward tries with the line begging, Peacock alone fouled 2 up by failing to get the ball to the supporting runner after drawing the fullback.

FYI I was part of a coaching team ( I hold a leverl 1 & 2 coaching badge) for 9 yrs from 9s -16s won several pieces of silverware and a league title, several of our players are now in both KR & FC academy with a couple of others training with Yorkshire...I was also dragged around the amateur circuit from the age of 6 yrs old watching both my brothers play, they both turned professional..So I believe it is fair to say I have plenty of knowledge about rugby...
Did your knowledge come from playing at school or just becoming a supporter ?, either way you still are not watching the game correctly!

MMJ - Owned!

As i've said. Average fb. Strong left, weak right. 2 good prob's. 1 good 9. Never played 13 as a pivot. 2 average halves. What do you expect?

I played at School, being part of a Yorkshire Cup and National Cup winning side. I played Youth Club rugby upto U17's. Played open age for only one and a half season as I was seriously injured whilst playing. Subsequently I trained with a few amateur clubs to keep fit for around 7 year. I have been losely involved sports media on coverage of RL. I have watched the professional game for the last 30 years.

Given the conditions, I thought Leeds did ok. Note, I am not saying they were great, fantastic or even slick, just ok. They did the basics better then Hull. Yes, as Carl points out, they spilled the ball on several occasions, due to the wet conditions. Also, as Carl points out, Peacock did bomb two chances, he should have passed to Ablett. Instead he passed to Maguire, who subsequently knocked on. I lost count of the times the likes of Radford, Westerman, Lauaki etc knocked on within the opposition 20 yard line. To say they were poor suggests you either do not consider Hulls defencive effort in the first 70 mins as being good and you have not factored in the wet conditions.

OH, Seb. You still on your one man boycott? Or did you go against your promise of no longer attending whilst Agar was in charge. Either way you appear to have the backbone of a newt

Welcome, like thinker!

(For what it's worth, I believe ICECREAMMAN is a communal sign-on for a few different people within the club, the odd player, maybe some of the coaching and back-room staff. As BB has pointed out the writing style, grammar and (laughingly) opinions change daily. Somedays he's an Aussie, somedays appears to have a long history in this country. Either way, (t)he(y)'s fascinating.)

Thank ye for the welcome! Its all very entertaining reading for a novice poster ha ha!!

I posted on Sunday that the only positive was the fact our defence was good...Leeds also displayed a good defensive game,. However both teams were poor in offence, Leeds were sbetter but by their own standards poor, the Leeds of last season would have put a cricket score against us had we performed like we did on Sunday, Leeds are not the team they were last year, very inconsistent, the game imo was a poor show overall. Given the conditions our forwards should have won the game but they were poor.